in 2013
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 2 December 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
bitcoin is like having a website with nothing on it but a photo of the earth and a hit counter
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Bitcoin feels like a Prodigy discussion group
― deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
Real talk first BBS I ever saw was a wheel of time one on prodigy in like 1995
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
it's like swiss banking in 1939
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
This is a pretty interesting piece:http://www.businessinsider.com/im-changing-my-mind-about-bitcoin-2013-12
It's based on the assumption that the value of bitcoin is pretty much exclusively money laundering, illegal transactions and tax evasion, which is what I thought. It does make an interesting point, though, that it doesn't really matter if the value of bitcoin is "stable" for it to be useful, because these kinds of transactions tend to involve converting money in and out of bitcoin relatively quickly. In other words, if you buy weed using bitcoin, you don't care what the price of bitcoin was 6 months ago or what it will be 6 months from now -- you just want to quickly convert your dollars to bitcoin and get your weed at the current price. IMO this doesn't really qualify it as a "currency" though, it's more like a vehicle.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
my understanding is the market isnt very liquid tho which makes its value for that sort of thing limited
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link
i mean maybe itll all sort itself out if enough criminals start using it but idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
like all these stories about people who have millions of dollars in bitcoins leave out the fact that its basically impossible to cash in that much
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
i will cash your bitcoins
― buzza, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link
also if it became a big enough deal in the black market the authorities would find a way to hobble it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link
buzza
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
right well I guess bitcoiners are hoping to draw more people into the market so that it becomes more liquid. At 11B I'm sure it's liquid enough for buying weed, but probably not liquid enough for members of the kleptocracy to move significant cash
and yeah what you said is what I think too -- there's a paradox that if it becomes successful enough to work it becomes much more likely to get shut down
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
11B cap is sort of pitifully low for what its proponents are trying to make it out to be
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
another article pointed out that if regulators really want to go after bitcoin transactions, the "anonymity" doesn't matter because it's not anonymous to cash in your bitcoins. Like if bitcoins are overwhelmingly being used for illegal purposes, then authorities will just target people who are exchanging/cashing bitcoin.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
yeah the thing abt a virtual currency is no matter how super good its coded it had to interact with the real world at some point and its always gonna be vulnerable there
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
like w silk road they seemed to roll the whole thing up pretty comically easily
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
it'd be sweet if you could buy weed with bitcoin and have it delivered by amazon drones
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
I'm also reminded of some file sharing services that tried to hide behind the fact that there were legitimate uses for them, but the courts were like "come on, we know what this is for."
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/LFrCz8R.png
These guys never learn
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
do u guys have any bitcoins
― Clay, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link
i have all the bitcoins i am satocher
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link
bit_coiner
― buzza, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rvlft/i_just_chased_him_through_a_bitcoin_tumbler_and/
I find this guy's post to be oddly (and sadly) poetic
Its like running a marathon through fog, listening for the footsteps of other runners.
This is the biggest heist of all time. Is it in the newspapers? No TheNodManOut made the hardest spot - the escape route wallet from sheep. I assume he normally drives round in a van solving mysteries.I was still sending fractions of bitcoin into sheep, looking for the puncture, and saw that TheNodman had already sussed it. I clicked the link to the wallet and stood open-mouthed to see a planet-sized spaceship hovering above europe. We were both pretty knackered I think, but every door led to another door, rooms full of bitcoins stacked from floor to ceiling. I was ready to call it a day, but the spaceship started to dissappear into a fog before my eyes!I just sent 0.00666 btc to the first person to attach a threat to 0.000666 of a bitcoin, for good luck. I'm sure the NodManOut is pleased we're not alone now, because its hard to follow the blockchain and try to shout "OVER HERE! $100m is being towed away! Hello? I'm one confirmation behind him, and he's boarding a crowded tube train"I don't use the word "hero" lightly. But TheModManOut is probably the greatest hero in world history.Its easy to go wrong on the blockchain. There are no blockchain accountants yet. If we do, we can go back to the first escape hatch he discovered and work from there.
I was still sending fractions of bitcoin into sheep, looking for the puncture, and saw that TheNodman had already sussed it. I clicked the link to the wallet and stood open-mouthed to see a planet-sized spaceship hovering above europe. We were both pretty knackered I think, but every door led to another door, rooms full of bitcoins stacked from floor to ceiling. I was ready to call it a day, but the spaceship started to dissappear into a fog before my eyes!
I just sent 0.00666 btc to the first person to attach a threat to 0.000666 of a bitcoin, for good luck. I'm sure the NodManOut is pleased we're not alone now, because its hard to follow the blockchain and try to shout "OVER HERE! $100m is being towed away! Hello? I'm one confirmation behind him, and he's boarding a crowded tube train"
I don't use the word "hero" lightly. But TheModManOut is probably the greatest hero in world history.
Its easy to go wrong on the blockchain. There are no blockchain accountants yet. If we do, we can go back to the first escape hatch he discovered and work from there.
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
I feel like the only thing missing from that is Carol Channing popping out of a cake and shouting "BITCOOOOOOOIN!"
― deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
(I need to ask jjj if GZeus is into bitcoin)
― deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link
i just mined mondo bitcoin for over an hour
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
exactly, I think all of r/bitcoin is underestimating what the feds actually know about this
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
This is an article my friend posted. It's about 75% breathless hyped up nonsense, but the other 25% mentions some interesting possible applications of the technology.
http://startupboy.com/2013/11/07/bitcoin-the-internet-of-money/
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.sheepmarketscam.com/
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:47 (ten years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, December 2, 2013 10:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
theres a ton of stories of ppl trying to cash out modest amounts and being stymied at every turn
http://buttcoin.org/easy
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:53 (ten years ago) link
My friend and I went and contacted a buyer on localbitcoins, and met with him at lunch. The buyer was offering 600$/coin in cash according to the listing, and was willing to buy up to 25 coins.
My friend showed up, the buyer instead insisted on paying the entire amount in Amazon giftcards (50 bucks a card, and had a small plastic shopping bag just filled with gift cards).
I asked him how do we know the gift cards are activated? “Trust me”.
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:54 (ten years ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:56 (ten years ago) link
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:27 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol at that guys whole analysis of inflation and a currency w/o a central bank but especially
They overlook that the world functioned on fixed money supplies until 40 years ago (the gold standard)
is just an exceptionally goofy and misleading ron paul type thing to say
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link
Many label it as a speculative pyramid scheme – without realizing that all government-printed money is such.
uh thats a pyramid scheme with an army and jails to you buddy (also not a pyramid scheme)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link
So why not just use Pounds or Dollars? One can use bitcoins as high-powered money with distinct advantages. Bitcoins, like cash, are irrevocable. Merchants don’t have to worry about shipping a good, only to have a customer void the credit card transaction and charge-back the sale.
im sure buyers are super psyched about this neat feature of no recourse whatsoever
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:03 (ten years ago) link
ill stop liveblogging i hate this guy tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:04 (ten years ago) link
hey man capitalism is the real pyramid scheme *listens to sounds of minds being blown*
― I was still sending fractions of bitcoin into sheep (Clay), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah he has no concept of monetary policy or history (or a bunch of other things) whatsoever. Christ's birth - 1973, world on totally fixed money supply backed 100% by gold, all is well.
I still think some of the tech applications are interesting. I feel like probably what will ultimately come out of bitcoin, if anything, probably doesn't have much to do with what bitcoiners think it is right now.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:07 (ten years ago) link
feel like all his ideas are on the level of why pay someone to build a house for you when you can just build a house yrself
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
also seems like you're cutting out the middleman and replacing it with two middlemen (one at each end, i.e. the exchanges). I guess the goal of these people is to get to the point where you don't need to exchange it. But it's a longshot for this thing to gather enough steam to get to that point.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:12 (ten years ago) link
yeah thats obvs never gonna happen in a million years but even if it did then you have this highly unstable central bankless currency thats really more of a commodity and thus subject to wild fluctuations booms and busts etc
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link
Silicon Valley knows a platform when it sees it, and is aflame with Bitcoin.
worst sentence ever written?
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link
Teams of brilliant young programmers, entranced by the opportunity, are working on Exchanges
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bafv3-bIAAAL3ZC.jpg
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:21 (ten years ago) link
UGH
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link
the hills are alive with the sound of bitcoin
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link
that qr code translates as "kill me"
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
u jelly?
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:27 (ten years ago) link