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No need for sorries, I love reading tournament reports! The same thing happened to me at GP Charlotte, where I started out awesome day 1, but lost my first four rounds day 2. I dropped because I couldn't finish in the money anymore, but under the new payout, I think I would have had a shot at money still.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

mogis has been kind to me lately, won back-to-back drafts with these eerily similar decks

http://i.imgur.com/xUCLd2a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ruUFY19.jpg

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link

those both look insane, though I'd cut a land and the Stoneshock for the Akroan Crusader and the Baleful Eidolon on that first one

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link

i hate crusader without a bunch more ordeals etc than i have there

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:48 (ten years ago) link

i think it's fine with 2 dragons mantle

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

those decks are p nuts but can i say i like the idea of calling color pairs by their respective deities quite a bit

Lamp, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah for some reason using the rav guilds and alara shards as names for decks that aren't built with/around cards from those sets has always bothered me

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link

Haha, I thought you meant Fanatic of Mogis. Didn't realize that people referred to decks using deity names at all

Vinnie, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

Not even sure I know what all the deity names are!

Vinnie, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

they've all been mentioned on cards already

WU = Ephara
WG = Karametra
WB = Athreos
WR = Iroas
UB = Phenax
UR = Keranos
UG = Kruphix
BR = Mogis
BG = Pharika
GR = spoilers

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

Did not know that. I suppose just analyzing cards in Theros you could figure it out

when you said Mogis I thought you meant a deck with 2-3 Fanatics as main kill mechanism

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

that said I find B/R in Theros very intriguing. it seems like one of the few decks that can stay ahead of a good U/W heroic build

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

you can even figure out most of their subtitles from flavor text & context & the temple names, like karametra = harvest, keranos = mischief, iroas = war, ephara = wisdom, etc.

current rumor based on anonymous sources who have supposedly seen cards from the next set is that U/W, G/W, and B/R temples are in it and then the B/G and U/R are being slowrolled until the 3rd set which i'm not a fan of but at least i'll get my GW temple.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I guess I knew the names except Keranos but had no idea what colors went with who. I'm sure the names will get used more when we get the actual god cards for them.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

I'm bummed that the B/G temple isn't coming in the next set, that was the one I was really anticipating.

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

is it a good idea to horde temples right now?

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

if you want to make a few bucks, they seem like a good candidate, but it's hard to imagine them hitting 10

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

http://magiccards.info/mr/en/269.html

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

i was thinking like 5

i horded a bunch of the RTR duals, Abrupt Decay, and Deathrite Shamans and have no idea when to sell them. I feel 4 is probably high end for Abrupts, RTR duals maybe 7-8, and Shamans I'll just hold onto since they'll probably be good in Modern for a real long time

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

the scars of mirrodin duals hit 10 the following year and the blue ones hit 15, those were better lands than the scrylands though and there were only 5 of them. not really sure what to expect for these. some of the innistrad ones hit 10 but just barely iirc.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

I dont know what to make of the supply though. INN duals hovered around 8-10 while the M10 ones were barely a buck b/c so many of those were out there. And both RTR and THS seem to have been drafted a lot.

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

sorta depends on how good the next set's duals are also, but it's hard to imagine them going worse than scrys

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

oh wait are you talking about MTGO

if so then i don't bother hoarding stuff like that usually, i don't expect any of the temples to ever break 3 tix and most will be 1-2 for the entire run in standard

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

I still feel that you're underrating the scrylands iatee

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

boros reckoner is a card that could easily go up into the double-digits on mtgo and its floor is not much lower than it is right now. it's standard-only though unless there's a straight-up combo kill with it in modern at some point.

abrupt decays i would hold for a while, and buy in paper if they're really available for 6 bucks which is what i'm seeing.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

some of my friends went in on pack rats at 0.15, unfortunately i didn't share their pessimism about the future of standard but they're 2 tix now and i want to die

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

As soon as Theros got spoiled I went in on Tidebinders at about .80 and Nightveils at .27. Cashed out Nighveil at $2 and maybe should have held a little longer. My 60 Mana Blooms are looking fairly useless though. I am shocked on Pack Rat too. I still don't know what kind of decks those are going in.

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

its in the monoblack deck. as it turns out, constructed decks can't beat t2 pack rat either unless they have removal on turn 2 (thoughtseize is good at preventing this) or have supreme verdict or detention sphere.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

looking at the price for sphere and supreme verdict it seems people are not playing those cards as much as I thought

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

i think it's cool that it's getting play though. if you were to design a card that's super broken in Limited but kinda meh in Constructed I think Pack Rat is it

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

its super broken in constructed too, is the point

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

I mean, usually it wouldn't be. This is the first time I can remember where Constructed has only one playable sweeper, but it's a gold card, AND the best one-mana discard spell ever happens to be there to pluck it right out.

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

super broken seems like an overstatement

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

maybe, but when you're playing a creature deck it is similar to stoneforge mystic in that you have a very small window of time to deal with it before it invalidates your deck's strategy

once we get the WU temple i would not be surprised to see more hybrid builds of the mono-u deck sacrificing some speed for the ability to cast detention sphere

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

though at the same time, all it takes is a thragtusk or huntmaster type premium midrange threat to push pack rat back out of the format, there's a reason it wasn't played in the last standard

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah i think its just really good 'right now', am curious to see how good it ends up being. fwiw i had been playing u/w control on mtgo when dailies were still going and felt the mononblack match-up was p good. otoh there seems to be some evidence that a lot of the people playing monoblack werent v good, and that was kinda skewing its win % online. also those decks were only playing two pack rats.

xps - i inadvertently made a lot of money off desecration demons and nightveil specters simply by opening approximately 10 million of them during rtr block drafts. i actually made like $50 on spectres in paper since i had opened so many and had bought a playset of the promo ones when they were $2. i sold or traded p much all my excess paper standard cards last weekend at the gp for legacy/commander stuff because i'm tired of having so much money tied up in stuff like reckoners. i did hold on to all my scrylands since they're basically worthless right now. will probably miss the ability to just make any deck but otoh i haven't played paper standard since game day and don't see myself playing it anytime before the new year and i now have a bunch of duals and fetches so that's p sweet.

Lamp, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

jealous

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

haha yeah desecration demon was by far my most opened rare in RTR and i threw all of them in my bulk box since no one cared about them at the time, now i've got a bunch of $10 cards suddenly

i'm also planning to trade off most of my standard stuff for modern cards though since i don't play standard enough times during any given rotation. i just keep the red cards since there's always a mono-red deck these days and i tend to enjoy playing those just fine

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah the Nightveil price explosion has been nice for people like me who tried to force Dimir every GTC draft

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

I have a foil one that I can't seem to get rid of

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

foil standard good-right-now-for-like-10-minutes cards are real burdens

iatee, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

i tend to just trade those in to the store if i can't find anyone to trade for them since getting like 60% on a flash in the pan card is often still more than you get later if it crashes back to earth

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

i just noticed that the boston standard ptq is awkwardly 1 week after born of the gods comes out so i'm probably gonna have to buy cards at exorbitant prices if there's anything good in that set

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

also i won't be able to test for it on mtgo since it's literally the day the set comes out on there

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

also since we're talking about card prices this was p interesting

Lamp, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

this is bizarre

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

someone linked that in a chat i was in the other day, couldn't handle more than a minute or two of it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

http://www.magicev.com/

Lamp, Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:15 (ten years ago) link

that's an awesome resource

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 December 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link


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