DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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Well they keep voting for him when he runs against Ken Livingstone, to be precise

Don't know if Eddie Izzard will be enough here.

There are similarities

Fight the funny man with a Funny Man.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Bet you Cameron punched the air when he heard that interview.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

Or Lynton Crosby, depending on who or what was nearer.

i haven't seen this, what makes anybody think he didn't throw the test?

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

He didn't throw it but he was clearly really fucking irritated at having to do it and was just tossing answers around without thinking. Interviewers are slowly realising that if you subject Boris to a bit of scrutiny or hostile questioning he throws his toys out of the pram and self-destructs. A proper PM-in-waiting would have been able to deal with that, or the "nasty piece of work" interview a lot better.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

I don't know why anyone would think Lynton Crosby punches the air if Boris Johnson fucks up, since Boris was his last project.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

iq tests are the same as lateral thinking tests?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

more like straight logic i think?

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

ennhhhh i always aced IQ tests but i wouldn't have got any of these right

the shocker is that in SIX YEARS boris still hasn't met bob crow, wtaf

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

It's amazing how we could afford a welfare state when the country was virtually bankrupt after the war and literally in ruins and we apparently can't now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link

Despite mounting evidence for a growing food poverty crisis in the UK, ministers maintain there is “no robust evidence” of a link between sweeping welfare reforms and a rise in the use of food banks. However, publication of research into the phenomenon, commissioned by the Government itself, has been delayed, amid speculation that the findings may prove embarrassing for ministers.

Wouldn't want to embarrass Danny Alexander would we? Plus there's no evidence - robust or otherwise - for benefits tourism either jussayinlike...

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link

I'm not really sure I see permanent austerity as a vote-winner especially with them crowing about economic growth at the same time but this is the British public I suppose.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link

whoever gets in after this utter shower of douches will have so much to repair

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link

and no will to do so

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I think most of these 'reforms' will be permanent barring a miracle.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

or a disaster

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

Short of either a Cathy Come Home or a Poll Tax Riot moment these will be permanent. Even if Labour had significant will to do so the slice of the Exchequer that would be required to reverse this would have them so terrified of being labelled financially irresponsible that they would no longer countenance it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link

it's still a safety net, it's just that the holes are bit wider

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

Was it Gove who suggested food banks were some sort of lifestyle choice for some people?

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link

In their absence from govt labour is assuming the mantle of "party what would do all the stuff what we want done" again huh

howd that go before

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link

rote

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

I don't know, let's ask some malnourished people

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

malnourishment is a lifestyle choice tbf

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

Was it Gove who suggested food banks were some sort of lifestyle choice for some people?

"I had the opportunity to visit a food bank in my constituency only on Friday and I appreciate that there are families who do face considerable pressures.

"It's often as a result of some decisions that have been taken by those families which mean that they are not best able to manage their finances.

"What we need to do is to ensure the support is there not just financially but also to make sure that the right decisions are made."

In other words: if you're shit out of luck, work and food it's your own fault.

ass pee leg wetter (onimo), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

also "they are not best able to manage their finances" from a man who had to return £7000 in expense claims.

ass pee leg wetter (onimo), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

I appreciate that there are families who do face considerable pressures.

I really honestly and truly don't believe any of this government appreciate that, or what it may feel like.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

look, Gove is saying that benefits are enough to keep you alive and if you waste your money on ciggies, TV, clothes or Xmas presents it's your own fault.

this may be factually accurate for all i know.

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

and before anybody's knee jerks what i'm saying is we shdn't be happy accepting this even if it were true

Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

My gratitude to the Liberal Democrats for unleashing these cunts on the British people knows no bounds. Thanks guys, I, for one, will never forget this.

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

There's a few will be remembering..

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link

Someone's listening to the Autumn Statement in the next room. I can't make out actual words, but just hearing the tone of voice of these braying fuckheads is bad enough.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 5 December 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

GIF defacers, do your worst:

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ids3.gif?w=424&h=424

hatcat marnell (suzy), Thursday, 5 December 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Wonder when these jokers are going to stop working on their music hall comedy double act and start running the country?
PMQS: Cameron taunts Balls over hand gestures

All that self-sacrifice, judgement, self-pity! I’d say it’s (snoball), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

I think this is the most shameful thing I've ever witnessed coming out of Parliament: iain-duncan-smith-leaves-commons-debate-on-food-banks-early-9013917

(a) Is this "coalition" government the longest suicide note in British political history? I mean, do they just not want to be in power?

or:

(b) Is this actually what most people in this country seem to want? In which case I'm getting the hell out before we end up with a state of emergency/c*nc*ntr*t**n c*mp scenario.

Definitely (b|

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

I just watched that. I think it's a case that the Tories are banking on there being enough people in category (b) for it to be in their favour, electorally, but they might be wrong about that and it does depend on enough of the country being insulated, ignorant and/or willfully blind to what's actually happening. The public accepted austerity, by and large, as way of balancing the books, now they are effectively advocating permanent austerity, well I'm not sure that's a vote-winner. They're now advocating cuts on a scale that strike me as unachieveable without something breaking. A lot of this is just to bounce Labour into a position they think will stand against them at the next election.

(a) might indeed be possible though. They're consciously inflating a housing bubble that even they can see must burst at some point, and presumably don't want to be in power when that happens. On the other hand, if Labour are in power when it happens, then that's another 18 years of Tory government virtually assured.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

I was thinking about this the other day, about how the Tories being the "nasty party" had harmed their election prospects in the past, pretty sure Lynton Crosby has assured them not to worry about that anymore as this is now the "nasty country".

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

Labour's motion calling on the government to reduce dependency on food bank was eventually defeated by 294 votes to 251, a majority of 43 as Tories and Lib Dems banded together to shout it down.

Caring sharing Lib Dems.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

It doesn't help that Labour allowed themselves to totally give up the ground on the austerity debate, the Tories reckon they can effectively get away with anything as long they also keep hammering the message that Labour can't be trusted with the economy. And given that Labour have effectively taken any argument for a Keynesian stimulus or even just a straight-up moral argument off the table, they've effectively signed themselves up to austerity as well. Strikes me that the Crosby tactic is more or less working, even if the Tories are behind in the polls.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I'm pretty sure now they will win the next election

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link

Alex Salmond must be loving it

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link

Yep, the case that this is not absolutely necessary has been made much more strongly by the centre-left-leaning papers than by the opposition. People have been told that it's vitally important that discretionary funding is cut back because the economy is in no shape to support it. Whether that's actually the kind of country people want to live in permanently remains to be seen though. It'll be tough to sell the idea of an economic recovery and empty coffers at the same time.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link

It'll be tough to sell the idea of an economic recovery and empty coffers at the same time.

"We're on the right track but there's still work to do" is the current mantra covering both bases and I believe they're planning on using those words until at least 2017 if re-elected.

gaze not into the navel (onimo), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link


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