DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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My gratitude to the Liberal Democrats for unleashing these cunts on the British people knows no bounds. Thanks guys, I, for one, will never forget this.

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

There's a few will be remembering..

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link

Someone's listening to the Autumn Statement in the next room. I can't make out actual words, but just hearing the tone of voice of these braying fuckheads is bad enough.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 5 December 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

GIF defacers, do your worst:

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ids3.gif?w=424&h=424

hatcat marnell (suzy), Thursday, 5 December 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Wonder when these jokers are going to stop working on their music hall comedy double act and start running the country?
PMQS: Cameron taunts Balls over hand gestures

All that self-sacrifice, judgement, self-pity! I’d say it’s (snoball), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

I think this is the most shameful thing I've ever witnessed coming out of Parliament: iain-duncan-smith-leaves-commons-debate-on-food-banks-early-9013917

(a) Is this "coalition" government the longest suicide note in British political history? I mean, do they just not want to be in power?

or:

(b) Is this actually what most people in this country seem to want? In which case I'm getting the hell out before we end up with a state of emergency/c*nc*ntr*t**n c*mp scenario.

Definitely (b|

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

I just watched that. I think it's a case that the Tories are banking on there being enough people in category (b) for it to be in their favour, electorally, but they might be wrong about that and it does depend on enough of the country being insulated, ignorant and/or willfully blind to what's actually happening. The public accepted austerity, by and large, as way of balancing the books, now they are effectively advocating permanent austerity, well I'm not sure that's a vote-winner. They're now advocating cuts on a scale that strike me as unachieveable without something breaking. A lot of this is just to bounce Labour into a position they think will stand against them at the next election.

(a) might indeed be possible though. They're consciously inflating a housing bubble that even they can see must burst at some point, and presumably don't want to be in power when that happens. On the other hand, if Labour are in power when it happens, then that's another 18 years of Tory government virtually assured.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

I was thinking about this the other day, about how the Tories being the "nasty party" had harmed their election prospects in the past, pretty sure Lynton Crosby has assured them not to worry about that anymore as this is now the "nasty country".

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

Labour's motion calling on the government to reduce dependency on food bank was eventually defeated by 294 votes to 251, a majority of 43 as Tories and Lib Dems banded together to shout it down.

Caring sharing Lib Dems.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

It doesn't help that Labour allowed themselves to totally give up the ground on the austerity debate, the Tories reckon they can effectively get away with anything as long they also keep hammering the message that Labour can't be trusted with the economy. And given that Labour have effectively taken any argument for a Keynesian stimulus or even just a straight-up moral argument off the table, they've effectively signed themselves up to austerity as well. Strikes me that the Crosby tactic is more or less working, even if the Tories are behind in the polls.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I'm pretty sure now they will win the next election

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link

Alex Salmond must be loving it

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link

Yep, the case that this is not absolutely necessary has been made much more strongly by the centre-left-leaning papers than by the opposition. People have been told that it's vitally important that discretionary funding is cut back because the economy is in no shape to support it. Whether that's actually the kind of country people want to live in permanently remains to be seen though. It'll be tough to sell the idea of an economic recovery and empty coffers at the same time.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link

It'll be tough to sell the idea of an economic recovery and empty coffers at the same time.

"We're on the right track but there's still work to do" is the current mantra covering both bases and I believe they're planning on using those words until at least 2017 if re-elected.

gaze not into the navel (onimo), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link

What words will the Lib Dems be using I wonder?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

"Heard Ya Missed Us, Well We're Back."

"Blue Tory Yellow Tory Blue Tory Yellow Tory"

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link

"Would you like fries with that?"

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

"Ten pence for a cup of tea?"

All that self-sacrifice, judgement, self-pity! I’d say it’s (snoball), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

"I voss neffer a member of the Liberal Demokratik Party!"

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

He looks like he's lost in a beautiful reverie of emaciated Bolton children in a gruel queue.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 December 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link

Something weirdly Zaphod Beeblebrox-ish about that image.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 20 December 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Speaking at his monthly press conference in Whitehall, Clegg said: "You've got a Conservative party now who are driven, it seems to me, by two very clear ideological impulses. One is to remorselessly pare back the state – for ideological reasons just cut back the state.

"Secondly – and I think they are making a monumental mistake in doing so – they say the only people in society, the only section in society, which will bear the burden of further fiscal consolidation are the working-age poor."

Wow. maybe somebody should, like, try to stop them.

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

That doesn't strike me as egregiously awful. The BMW is described as a company car and I don't think it's unreasonable for a recently divorced person with a child to struggle to put together a £25k deposit, or whatever, on their own. Less dodgy than people getting £600k state-backed mortgages with 5% down.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

lol nv

mustread guy (schlump), Monday, 6 January 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/06/law-to-stop-eveyone-everything

hadn't spotted this until now

ogmor, Monday, 6 January 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/06/david-cameron-barber-mbe-services-hairdressing

David Cameron's barber was awarded an MBE in the New Year honours list for "services to hairdressing", it has emerged.

I'm Catholic and I agree with you 100 percent (onimo), Monday, 6 January 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link

I genuinely cannot believe that Clegg is stupid enough to believe that anyone will take that interview seriously as a point of differentiation.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/09/fire-stations-close_n_4567663.html#slide=more332582

At Clerkenwell Fire Station, which at more than 140 years old is the oldest in the country, fireman Alex Badcock looked stricken as he walked out of the station gate, covering his mouth with his hands.
...
The fire station is set to be immediately converted to luxury flats.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 10 January 2014 02:01 (ten years ago) link

Clerkenwell Fire Station is full of firemen's flats which have remained empty for years, but is actually the nearest station to Boris Johnson's home. I hope that comes back to bite him in the arse someday.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 10 January 2014 07:33 (ten years ago) link

What are the chances of some kind of funding related row between the tories and the police?

cardamon, Friday, 10 January 2014 07:57 (ten years ago) link

Already happening; google Tom Winsor and all shall be revealed.

When the riots began over that weekend, a lot of on-call police just didn't answer their phones and boasted about it on police blogs like the now-closed Inspector Gadget.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 10 January 2014 08:21 (ten years ago) link

every time i think about posting another succulent Gove quote i end up coming to the conclusion that teachers kinda really enjoy being trolled

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 08:29 (ten years ago) link

This is depressingly moronic:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/10/chuka-umunna-eu-migration_n_4573691.html

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 10 January 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link

that was a good question time that

^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 10 January 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-nhs-drugs-policy-could-see-elderly-denied-treatment-9050297.html

New drugs will only be made available on the NHS if they help people deemed to be a benefit to society under proposals that prompted fears elderly people could be denied treatment

feels like we've been wasting the word 'fascist' all those other times we've used it.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 10 January 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

otm. thats the grimmest.

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Friday, 10 January 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

As good as time as any to chime in with my monthly "I can't believe the Tories are actually as bad as the caricatures they've been drawn as for all these years"

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 10 January 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link

Wider societal benefits would potentially also include things like reducing the strain on carers but this quote from Lord How's seems key:

We cannot simply spend more and more on drugs – this would mean spending less and less elsewhere. That’s why we have asked NICE to look at the impact that drugs can have on people’s ability to work or contribute to the economy and society. A drug that brings a lot of extra benefits may justify the NHS paying more, but equally the NHS might pay less for a drug that does not deliver wider benefits.

NICE has always had a cost / benefit analysis framework which has taken anticipated years to live into account and it's difficult to determine exactly how much of a change this is.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 10 January 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

Lord Howe.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 10 January 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

I am sometimes distracted from despair by the fact that in a tiny anecdotal sense this government IS alienating people who have voted Tory all their life. I have a good friend who actually stood as a Tory councillor once who is disgusted by the current government on so many levels, in fact he posts more anti-Tory shit on Facebook than everyone but my most marxist friend (that might be because I normally don't friend people who spam political stuff on my feed).

It can happen? Maybe.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 10 January 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

NICE? seriously?

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Saturday, 11 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

National Institute For Clinical Excellence.

Very New Labour name.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Saturday, 11 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

I am sometimes distracted from despair by the fact that in a tiny anecdotal sense this government IS alienating people who have voted Tory all their life.

Same here. I feel like there's a group of people who've always voted conservative because they equate political conservatism with principles such as tradition, morality and community. The free market/small government/rich get richer side of things was either covered up by these three or was seen to be inherently involved in them.

Now that tradition, morality and community have been disposed of (except as shaky catch-phrases) maybe this type of conservative voter will find what's left (the free market/small government/rich get richer side of things) unappealing.

cardamon, Saturday, 11 January 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link


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