Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

http://www.johnlewis.com/nook-simple-touch-glowlight-ereader/p231759497

nook simple touch with glowlight £49

nearly went for a nook a couple of months ago but i read that it doesn't do well with PDFs or some other file formats?

i didn't like the nook simple touch i got (same as glowlight minus the glowlight bit) when they were going for £29 some months ago, seemed big and clunky compared to the kobo mini (mini is tiny though, postcard size)

and both those would struggle with pdfs, i guess, just because of the 600x800 resolution and the e-ink. (i have some cbrs and the screen's just too small. you can zoom in and move around but the refresh rate makes it painful).

what's the resolution on the kindle? (oh, 800x600. screen an inch bigger than mini though)

The Paperwhite has higher resolution...

and are £60 more than the one onimo mentioned... (at waterstones, £10 cheaper at amazon)

seem to have lost my kindle at the same time i lost my scarf, phone charger and debit card. can't quite decide whether to do sthng about this.

have an ebook that I was gifted --- started reading it on my 2nd gen ipad, but was getting headaches from the reflection etc. Mr Veg loaded it onto his Kindle for me to loan

...pretty sure this is the end of me being a holdout. I kinda love it! So easy to cart around and battery life is ridic and my eyes don't freak out trying to adjust to it, doesn't feel at all like reading off a screen

am v impressed, hello vg welcome to 2005 lol

i was hating the idea of these things for years and now I want one. I give up.

resistance is futile etc

Welcome welcome

i'm getting one for christmas, i also never wanted one but now i really do for all the vg reasons.

I think i shall invent a case for them that rustles and smells of old pages would that sooth yis do yis think

yes please!

in my head I'm like, 'well if I had one of my own I'd still probably alternate with actual book-books because you know books are still great' but....lol

Striking me as a legit idea that tbh, you could sell addon bottles of book spray

it cld be like an ultrasonic humidifier that gently puffs out scented mist from a little port on the rim...

yeah or some kind of sensor that sprays a little puff of eau de old book when you open yr kindle cover

great minds lol xpost

i don't hold a sacred attitude towards paper books, i'm forever trying to get rid of them, they are a big plague at my small house, i just was convinced the ipad would get the job done but my poor eyes can't take it any more.

xp still alternate! (im still workin through books from years ago tbh)

I read so much quicker on the kindle its ridiculous

I got one, have read a few books on it, to be honest I don't find it worth the bother and mostly stick to paperbacks. It is very good for checking out library e-books for my kid when he wants them NOW instead of next time we go to the library, but he too mostly likes paperbacks.

the main reason I'm testing mr veg's kindle is because I am taking a flight to Aus in Feb, and I thought I might kindle on the plane

last time I flew I bought Stephen King's 11/22/63 in hardcover to read on the plane ...at the same time that mr veg bought his kindle for the plane trip. I was giving him so much side-eye by the end of our first leg, whyyyyyyyy did I buy this stupid heavy book damn u stephen king what was I thinking etc

> well if I had one of my own I'd still probably alternate with actual book-books

this is valid. most of my e-reading is classics from gutenberg, most of my, er, p-reading is new, modern(ish) books (or re-reads of things i already had). it's a good balance.

i still don't think i'd buy a new book electronically. ebooks aren't even cheaper in most cases. (those 99p mcbains were tempting though)

the main reason I'm testing mr veg's kindle is because I am taking a flight to Aus in Feb, and I thought I might kindle on the plane

I bought a kindle for my trip and it rules super-hard. I've read idk 60-odd books I wouldn't have been able to carry around the world, and using "send to Kindle" on long articles on the web is also tear-bringingly wonderful

my dream of owning an e-reader is entirely about being able to tote round multi-volume old histories on pdf wherever

YES the plane is where the kindle really shines (and 11/22/63 is actually one of the few books I've managed to finish on it!)

mr veg got into a v amusing argument with the flight attendant when she asked him to turn it off and he said 'it is off' and she was like 'well you're still reading it' etc and he's enjoying himself immensely and she's getting kinda shirtly and I was low-whispering to him 'dude this is not the time to be pedantic fyi'

FAA due to raise all restrictions on use (including during take-off) imminently - the rest of the world are waiting for the USA to say it's OK then fall in line immediately. (Most allow it already but are in principle awaiting on the FAA saying it's fine.)

my trick with my kindle on flights is to put it away when the attendants are sweeping the aisles checking for seatbelts, etc; then when you hear "flight attendants please be seated for takeoff" bring it back out. my the time they get back up it will be all clear anyway.

alternative: i've never gotten hassled about keeping my kindle out when i fly first class.

As someone who knows about this stuff, the difference between "off" and reading on a Kindle is only that it puts up an all-white screen (and turns off the radios, if the device wasn't already in Airplane mode). Everything else is exactly the same.

I like my friend's e-ink Kindle b/c it's really easy on the eyes like paper. Are the non-e-ink Kindles as readable? I'm wondering whether I should just skip a Kindle and get an iPad for e-books.

i get headaches trying to read on ipad for any great length of time

Yeah no to ipad as an alternative to an ereader

I love reading on the iPad. But I don't read books. Mostly just twitter.

The retina iPads are pretty decent for reading as long as I turn the brightness way down. I still prefer e-ink because I don't need access to Google to run down a rabbit hole when a name or event pops up I want to look up.

Yeh I was wondering if the Kindle Fire would be no better than an iPad (maybe w/ Retina) b/c Fire isn't e-ink? (Unless I'm mistaken)

I went to Best Buy to check them out but the displays were either missing or broken. Fuckers.

yeah the Fire is really a budget tablet rather than an e-Reader

^same with the Nook HD. An Android tablet with a sharper screen basically. It is p readable when I turn the brightness down. TBH though if the straight e-ink devices could render PDFs reasonably I would ditch my Nook HD and go back to e-ink. It's much more pleasurable.

I am going to wait for a big jump in e-Ink screen quality before I pick up an e-Ink device at this point. e-Ink with the pixel density of an iPhone Retina Display could be pretty killer.

(of course I just forgot while typing that that I already have a nook I don't use)

I've read several books on the iPad, no problem (iPad 1, don't know if it would work with a retina display)

The resolution of the current Paperwhite is indistinguishable from a good trade paperback IMO.

ya how detailed do you really want your serifs to be, they're letters, either you can read them or not

Http://tech.woot.com has refurbished Kindle Touch for $55 (plus $5 shipping) today. Probably US only.

how detailed do you really want your serifs to be

For me the test would be whether the letter forms have a crisp, well-defined edge without blurring or jaggedness. This allows the eye to focus with less strain. Meet that test and further resolution would be superfluous -- until you start talking about pdfs and other images.

One issue with high-res e-ink is that the micro-capsule edges start to dominate at high resolutions, lowering the contrast. Another is that it gets harder to control edge-ghosting, since the electrical fields that move the ink around bleed over into neighboring microcapsules, and it's hard to clean those ghosts up without a full flash of the screen (which everyone seems to hate).

The 212ppi of the newer Kindles/e-readers is pretty sharp, though.

Actually, scratch that first item, I think that's not true. It's a ghosting issue.

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Integration of e-ink for reading and a bright display for photos will be nice.

FAA due to raise all restrictions on use (including during take-off) imminently - the rest of the world are waiting for the USA to say it's OK then fall in line immediately. (Most allow it already but are in principle awaiting on the FAA saying it's fine.)

flew internationally on BA tonight, and they said at the start "ayo since like yesterday, stow yr laptops away but as long as you put your phone or tablet or e-reader in airplane mode, fuckin go for it duders"

FAA due to raise all restrictions on use (including during take-off) imminently

They've been doing this for at least the past month in the US