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it's hard to want to use any red attack but thor's when he gets 2k damage from two red matches

Hawkeye is ridiculously boosted in The Hunt, it's pretty awesome
Avoid (Purple) kinda sucks. I lvled it up to 5 without thinking, feel like it's kind of a waste.
Thanks for those links, will check out soon.
Savage Land reset, but you knew this.

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

im, uh, kinda finishing savage land now.

in normal circumstances, Thor > modern Hawkeye
in The Hunt, a modern Hawkeye with 4 red can hit every opposing character for something like 2700 dmg each in one attack if you successfully protect his countdown tile
right now I'm targeting a 5/5/3 build for him

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

oh, that red hits ALL enemies? yeah, that changes things.
i guess i'll shift my levelling from daken to mod hawk up to 20 or so and then go back and forth.

Sitting in or near the top 10 in bad is good since the onset, nobody seems to want to mess with my bottom-feeder rag, mid-level moonstone and 51 daken.

i like these actually-restricted missions more than the "buff" missions, means people actually have to try new people -- all i have learned so far is that i need more rag covers to make him useful & i dunno if moonstone will ever be good

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

Yelena looked completely useless until I fought her with modern Hawkeye and she kept fucking up his countdowns; now I want to level her specifically to neutralize anyone using modern Hawkeye in PVP (baghead Spidey has a similar usage with his counter increaser and I think regular Spidey can also fuck with countdowns?)

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

they really need to fix environmental effects so they scale.
100 hp for +5 ap is a game changing no-brainer, 50hp bonus for hot dogs is some bullshit.

Moonstone's Gravity Warp ability is pretty good, (make a 4/5 match with special tile swap or get a free critical hit), the others i'm iffy on. Haven't leveled her past 15-ish though.

lol yes Hot Dogs for 50hp

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

I look at that map is a neutral environment tile - hot dog isn't very useful and it takes forever to get that Narrow Alleyways super special or whatever it's called

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

oh man I hate the hot dog board so much

OTOH the board with the free critical tiles is my jam

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

loled irl re: 50hp hot dogs

nominate "50hp bonus for hot dogs is some bullshit." for ILG board description

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

that change everything to red special is crazy good.

now that there's nobody boosted in the tourney, i'm having to train myself out of making env tile matches as much, since without the boosts they're not as important (for the critical skill especially)

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

argh, these fucking hunt heroic covers are all characters i do not need. bad karma.

thor and hawkeye, thor and hawkeye thor and hawkeye GIVE ME A GODDAMN SPIDERMAN YOU SPITEFUL TABLET

brazenly entering competitions with daken at 40% health bc "he'll get it back in the fight"

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

brazenly entering competitions with daken at 40% health bc "he'll get it back in the fight"

lol hate this so much when playing against him, took me forever to figure out to save him for last and then unload with saved-up specials.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

"took me forever and people smarter than me pointing delineating the strategy," rather.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

i tend to hammer on him first b/c i hate his strike tile skill, but maybe that's a bad idea

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

also he's the one overleveled guy on many teams so after i take him down its all mopup

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

Right now, if I see a 40+ Thor in PVP I'm all "nope *skip*"

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

i'm at 9 on my ladder but man i gotta skip a lotta heavy hitters. 38 daken, 28 rag, 20 bullseye

bullseye's adamantium bones ability is a (super-annoying) counterpoint to daken's pheromone ability so i usually go after him first. i can deal with daken, because it usually gives you priority on the pheromone pop, so often i'll get 2 and he'll get... less than 2? because all of the red tiles are accupado

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

haha, "accupado" i am so tired

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

having a bullseye with no purple powers is very aggravating

haha that's the definition of useless

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

it's that or moonshadow and he has... well, more hp

The Hunt all-nighter? xxxp

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

i tend to hammer on him first b/c i hate his strike tile skill, but maybe that's a bad idea

I'm underpowered and focusing mainly on the PvE missions, but hitting him in the early rounds is kind of inefficient because of his healing. If I leave him alone (or at least until I have enough AP saved to finish him in one turn), I can avoid all the counterattack/healing nonsense.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

if you see an opportunity to starve him out via killing yellows, he basically kills himself pretty quickly too. used that against a stronger daken recently (sacrificing my own daken in the process, somewhat) and it was pretty easy. won't always work though, especially if you get lots of isolated yellows around the bottom of the board

only a strategy ot use if the board is already close to good for it

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

i am not the only one having problems getting a good draw here:
http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1167

having a bullseye with no purple powers is very aggravating
I actually had about six Bulleye cards last week from the Top Shot tourney; had to sell them all because I didn't have enough roster spots for him :\

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

I'm enjoying having Bullseye (with purple power) in the Dark Avengers tourney; just pop a few purples & the enemy does 1 damage against me. ANNOYING AS HELL but I win

Euler, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

The Punisher (Dark Reign)
3 Star Rarity (Rare)

Max HP: 5800
10 / 52 / 11 / 60 / 12 / 67 / 4.0x / 4

Molotov Cocktail - Black 7 AP
The Punisher lobs a bottle of liquid mayhem. Damages the enemy team for 59 and converts a random basic color tile to a Red Countdown tile that spreads fire every 2 turns, converting a random basic color tile to a 12 damage Red Attack Tile.
Level Upgrades
Level 2: Increases Attack tile damage to 15.
Level 3: Increases initial team damage to 89.
Level 4: Increases Attack tile damage to 18.
Level 5: Reduces Countdown to 1.
Max Level 5 - 557 damage, 113 damage Attack tile

Judgement - Green 8 AP
The Punisher unloads his arsenal. Destroys a 3x3 group of tiles, doing damage but not generating AP. Chaos creates an opening, converting a basic color tile to a strength 12 Strike tile.
Level Upgrades
Level 2: Increases Strike tile strength to 14.
Level 3: Creates 2 Strike tiles.
Level 4: Increases Strike tile strength to 17.
Level 5: Creates 3 Strike tiles.
Max level 5 - 104 strength Strike tile

Retribution - Red 8 AP
The Punisher draws his sidearm and finishes what he started. Damages the target for 118. If they are below 20% of their max health, he downs them.
Level Upgrades
Retribution
Level 2: Increases base damage to 177.
Level 3: Downs target if their health is below 30% of max.
Level 4: Increases base damage to 236.
Level 5: Downs target if their health is below 40% of max.

That Retribution skill is gonna SUUUUUUUCK at max... "downs target if health is below 40%" yikes!

ha, that was exactly the bit my eye was drawn to

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

also, bring on the Frankenpunisher alt

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

yeah I was drooling when I first saw the Pun's stats, even at just 1 cover I could see how they were gonna scale

guessing it'll be a while before he starts dropping from tokens though

Euler, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

wait, so are the rewards linked to specific goals, or do you just replay that level a few times until you get one reward each time?

mh, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

the latter. you're going to get A LOT of 20iso wins though.

is the reason i'm getting nowhere in savage land that i need a well leveled mod hawk?

IMO yes

my preferred team when possible is Thor + modHawk + Daken; if I can't use Daken, I'll sub in another buffed event character (either classic Spiderman or grey Black Widow)

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

nah you don't really need him. his boosted dmg is good but I usually end up using Thor for the tough missions

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

that said, you probably have his abilities maxed out so why not

Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

I've also been surprisingly successful with Thor + modHawk/Daken + baghead Spidey

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

i've been riding with thor/daken/juggernaut but it occurs to me that dooms black ability + daken's buff + thor's offense might equal profit

thor + modhawk is all you really need. the third really doesn't get to do anything. i use an iron40 or something just to soak up some damage.

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

hm. don't really have the iso to level modhawk past 20 and he's not that great at that low level

and doom WOULD be great if his black attack didn't take 12 ap. i generally win before he's half full.

pretty sure that doom's black won't stack with daken's tile. otherwise daken + modern storm would be disgusting.

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

i think maybe the daken strike tiles stack once per all the fists hitting?

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link


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