gonna say, i learned about 100% of those boots from your blog
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
the availability of the boots, at least - some of the shows are mentioned in Shakey
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
pretty funny, my older brother and i were just noting that it's been 20 years since our first neil young bootleg -- that bottom line 1974 show blew my 14-year-old mind.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Nice!
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
Bottom Line was the first bootleg I had too, and I got it just about 20 years ago as well. Must have spread fast (and yeah, it totally blew my mind at the time).
― grandavis, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
curious as to what neil was doing in NYC at that point (yes I'm a nerd about Neil Young). i think there was something in Shakey about him doing a session with Robbie Robertson around this time? maybe I'm making that up.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
for some reason i can't even imagine Neil Young being in New York but i'm sure he's been there a zillion times
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
he was there after the gold rush
http://www.popspotsnyc.com/afterthegoldrush/
― Euler, Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
Great research. Would be interested to know a little bit about the "small, old woman" I've looked at a thousand times.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 December 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
knowing neil, archives vol. 2 could very well be a 23-blu-ray version of "arc"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
or a .mp4 file of "journey through the past" with croatian subtitles
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
Interview in the new Uncut: "Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall (including Time Fades Away). Also, "Archives 2 still has a year to go before it's released, and it'll be released in a digital format and it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."
BUT in the new Mojo Neil says, "[Archives 2] will be completed in late June. It'll be in Pono; that's the way it will be delivered." No other format? "There may be a few people who want the Blu-ray. We'll have to talk to the record company about that but it won't be released until next year."
So, in summation, Archives 2 will never be released in any format ever.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
ARChives volume 23
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
if we get a pono-only archives 2 I might riot
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Considering the main selling point of the first Archives box was the visuals on the blu-ray, the Pono-only thing makes no sense.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
seriously
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."
WTF
goddamn it this was my greatest fear about pono
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
eh i don't buy it. his record company will want it in various formats.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's not exactly clear; I'm hoping he meant that any blu-ray release will have the same type of content.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
his record company will want it in various formats.
I work for a division of Warner Music. Twice a year, we have a charity record sale; each WMG label donates stuff they've got too much of and it gets sold at ultra-cheap prices ($1 for a single CD, $4 and up for box sets. Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.). Anyway, I've been going for a couple of years now, and every time I go there are giant piles of Archives Vol. 1 that no one touches. WMG took a fucking bath on that thing. I'm not at all convinced they'll want to produce an equally elaborate second installment.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.
Damn
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
haha, can you let me know when the next one is, i would like the fun house box for $10. won't they take more of a bath on it if they only do it on pono? i mean, they certainly won't sell many.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
The first Archives was released in three physical formats (BD, DVD, CD) -- I imagine the overhead on Archives 2 would be significantly lower with no physical manufacturing/distribution.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link
i have another great idea neil you could also sell a lot more vinyl if you didn't charge twice the going rate for your records
i'm kinda PONOpressed right now :(
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
that 24-bit depression
lol.i dunno, if they took such a bath on the first archives, why are they doing such a lavish "deluxe" version of "Letter Home" (with a CD version even!). [not that i doubt they lost money on the archives, but that might be more to do w/ neil's contract than anything else?]
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
that delux Letter Home version is bonkers
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
that luxe Letter Home is looking for punters who are all "hello i love neil young and hate money"
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Warners might've just fucked up in estimating how many Archives boxes they thought they could sell, and pressed an amount way out of proportion to its target audience. Presumably, they're pressing saner quantities of A Letter Home (and/or Third Man is footing part of the bill).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link
being a neil young fan is so stressful. let's just chill and listen to this shitty audience tape from 1976 (electric "helpless"!) http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1814
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
IIRC, the deluxe Archives boxes where remaindered/put oop pretty quickly. When I saw him live live in 2010, they had discounted copies of the blu box on sale at the merch table, and I also seem to recall Collector's Choice slashing prices for both higher end versions in their contemporary catalogs.
^^I imagine even the regular Archives box was a hot seller upon the initial weeks of release, and then dropped down to nothing aside from xmas sales and then later closeouts like Borders closing (I still remember the piles of the Springteen Darkness blu boxes behind the counter in practically every location I visited).
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
"Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall"
including Homegrown?!
― nostormo, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was wondering that? or chrome dreams 1? oceanside/countryside?
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
ha, i assume he means "every record I've released" but who knows
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
"Every record I remember releasing...for $49.99. Apiece."
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
It's kind of amazing that for something that was in gestation for so long, the archives projects have been released in such largely inept fashion.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
The first time I heard about it was a 1990 interview in the Chicago Tribune; then, it was going to be a 10-CD set, which sounded absolutely massive at the time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
David Briggs mentioned in Shakey that Neil had a crew doing archives work at the ranch during the Ragged Glory sessions.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
did not know this was on Spotify, lol
currently jamming the shit out of Fillmore 1970
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 September 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
stop bumping this if it's not about Archives 2 the wrath of shakey
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 4 September 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.
― Duke, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
if something god forbid happened to neil, i wonder if there would then be a bootleg series type thing or if his will states that everything must be cremated with him
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
with the divorce who knows what's going to happen to his estate. obviously his kids can't take care of it.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Elliott Roberts
― I Don't Wanna Ice Bucket With You (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
There's still Amber! She apparently just married an investment banker or something.
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link
truly hope his pov is "i'll be reissued to others satisfaction when i'm dead" rather than "bury me with the compumixes"
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
ah right I forgot about Amber
― Οὖτις, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Pegi will get all the Archives.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the performance series is pretty similar, no?
― mizzell, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link