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I'm just some Allen and Heath rube whose never used a DJM, but as a wild guess (since I was thinking this the last time I watched someone DJ): Is there a tempo-tap button or something (like on that big flashing orange button) or a way to adjust the filter to the BPM? If it's clanging it's because the timing's off; there should be some way to register tempo.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Saturday, 14 December 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link

yes, I can choose the beat for the effect, like 1/2, 1/4, etc.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 14 December 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

but I have no idea which one should I choose and what's the best timing (it ranges from 0 to x000 ms).

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 14 December 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link

but choosing from those times doesn't imply being in sync with the music. As mentioned above, there should be a tap temp. So long as it's in sync it'll sound "right", then the timing is just a question of the effect you're going for.

dan selzer, Saturday, 14 December 2013 08:51 (ten years ago) link

Aha, it worked. Apparently I just need to choose the beat and don't tinker with the timing.

One more question about cdj: do you really need to nudge the wheel further away when beatmatching compared to controller? Or at least compared to traktor s2 which is the only controller I've tried.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

You don't have to do that with traktor s2?

dan selzer, Saturday, 14 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

for example, when mixing with traktor I need to nudge the jog about 2-hour (imagine the wheel as a clock). but with cdj, with the same "distance" between the same pair of songs, I need to nudge it 6-hour.

on another note, about the freeze effect, I failed to make the song trails. it just goes like "it's not over-er-er-er" whereas in traktor I can make it "er-er-er-infinity". any idea how to do that with a pioneer mixer?

sorry for ruining the thread btw, but this kind of thing is allowed on ILX right right?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 15 December 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

just to be clear: "it's not over-er-er-er.. (the song stops)"

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 15 December 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

I don't know the specifics of the effects on the pioneer. I never use effects. Having it freeze into infinity is not something delay can or would do, so if the Pioneer doesn't have such an effect, it doesn't have that effect and that's the end of that!

Likewise, "nudge" amounts are totally dependent on the whim of the manufacturer. Maybe it's adjustable on Traktor. In my experience it's not adjustable on the CDJ, though I haven't used the new generation much. Like anything I imagine it'd different on each unit and you just have to get used to it. My guess is if it takes longer to nudge it, then the Pioneer is giving you a higher quality/more sensitive incremental approach, and one that's the industry standard.

dan selzer, Sunday, 15 December 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, just need some time to get used to I guess. :)

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 15 December 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/wt-records/wtbs-with-dj-speculator-and-jm

WTBS broadcast live every monday from noon to 2pm.. on www.newtownradio.com
this week.. special guest.. JM De Frias from Sequencias..

speculator starts..
brian auger's oblivion express
tata vega
gunchback boogie band
we are making music

JM de Frias
1. Grupo Bombino - Imuhar (Sublime Frequencies)
2. Jean Luc Ponty - Renaissance (Atlantic)
3. Thundercat - For Love I Come (Brainfeeder)
4. Messenger Inc. - Eleanor Rigby (Jazzman)
5. Dunkelziffer - Network (Emotional Rescue)
6. Donald Byrd - I love Your Love (Elektra)
7. Womack & Womack - Life's Just A Ballgame (Island)
8. Brainstorm - Journey To The Light (Columbia)
9. Slam Mode - Pacifica [Kuniyuki remix] (Spiritual Life)
10. John Daly - Solar Lights (Wave)
11. Gala Drop - Overcoat Heat (Golf Channel)

Speculator again
saqqara dogs
leisure connection
circuit, burns, & hawk
KWC
upcoming
chupacabras
entro & ginseng

speculator (speculaotr), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link

I've now gone from never hearing of Dunkelziffer to catching 3 references on the internet in as many days.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 05:31 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/ettiem/one-hundred-proof

a trip through a bagful of 45s father-in-law gave me last weekend. he also gave me a knife. merry christmas.

bobby bland-come fly with me
james brown-let's go get stoned
ernie k-doe-don't kill my groove
clarence carter-dear abby
preston epps-hully gully bongo
climax-park preserve
mercy-fire ball
commodores-lady (you bring me up)
dee dee sharp-ride!
gary u.s. bonds-twist, twist senora
edward bear-best friend
benjamin & pot in napanaw's pottery shop-looice
blizzard-keep a knockin'/get back/etc.
sonny mayes-one hundred proof
the rooftop singers-mama don't allow
the edgar winter group-free ride
earth wind & fire-let's groove instr.

andrew m., Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/mrjohnkennedy/21-12-13
http://www.mixcloud.com/mrjohnkennedy/john-kennedy-211213/

01. Siam - Tel-Aviv Downtown
02. Kazino - Binary
03. Mim Suleiman - Mingi
04. Prins Thomas - Bobletekno (DJ Sotofett’s 411 Disco Dub)
05. Bumper - Ten Four
06. Kylie - Slow
07. DJ Nori - Happy Sunday (Maurice Fulton Mix)
08. Bryan Ferry - Don't Stop The Dance (Sleazy McQueen Remix)
09. Quantic & Nidia Gongora - Muevelo Negro
10. Mind Fair - Wrong Wire
11. Omar Souleyman - Wenu Wenu
12. Guillaume & The Coutu Dumonts feat. Dynamike - We Journey The Human Race
13. The Black Madonna - A Jealous Heart Never Rests
14. Red 7 - I Lost My Shoes On Acid
15. The Human League - You Remind Me Of Gold (Instrumental)
16. Jeremy Deller - Voodoo Ray (Optimo Remix)
17. Ghost Culture - Red Smoke

electrobiscuit, Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/susiedramas/hook

logos - menace
tessela - hackney parrot (special request vip)
anthony naples - moscato b
bambounou - take it out on me
peverelist - aztec chant
population one - tales from the west side (original mix)
robert hood - eleven
j. tijn - cuthbert, dibble, grub
gherkin jerks - blast off
joey beltram - energy flash
delta funktionen - low jam
mount kimbie - you took your time (kyle hall remix)
joe - club scared
john heckle - something for your distorted mind

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Sunday, 22 December 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

electrobiscuit this is really great

cristalnacht (lukas), Sunday, 22 December 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

bumping my last one why because

http://www.mixcloud.com/misterprimeminister/strange-creatures/

the late great, Monday, 23 December 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link

my favorite one you've done fwiw

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 23 December 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/wt-records/wtbs-with-dj-speculator-2

playlist:
stevie b in my eyes
noel silent morning
eric b & rakim
2nd degree how freaky r u?
blowfly!
quando quango
depeche mode
martin gore
NAD (skips too much)
V4 visions nation of islam
mayday
plastikman
jeff mills
4th measure man
tracks long train runnin
toto
2 songs from barry white
moment of truth helplessly
patti whatley moment of truth part II
fashion eye talk
torn hawk
entro & terri
torn hawk
vapauteen
bill laswell
bill nelson
conversations england under snow 2

speculator (speculaotr), Monday, 23 December 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

tried to do another fake jungle thing, kind of ran out of steam on it

http://www.mixcloud.com/misterprimeminister/break-pressure/

the late great, Friday, 27 December 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link

I made it in the top 10 of Little White Earbud's podcast competition with this, but no further than that. So... here's a demi-mix for the year's transition.

https://x.mixcloud.com/edwrddbcl/edb-new-year-soon/

01. Konstantin Sibold “Madeleine” [Innervisions]
02. Jungle Wonz “The Jungle” [Trax]
03. Hardrock Striker “Motorik Life” (DJ Sprinkles’ Mountain of Despair) [Mule Musiq]
04. Adam Marshall “Thelon” [New Kanada]
05. Dreamer G “I Got That Feeling” [Mad House]
06. The Mole “Jingover” [Wagon Repair]
07. Narcotic Syntax “Romantic Infinity” [Perlon]
08. Dionne “Da Rain” (D’Pac Dub) [KMS]
09. Two Dogs in a House “Fifth Floor” [L.I.E.S.]
10. I.F. “The Man With the Stick” [Disko B]
11. TC Crew “I Can’t Do It Alone” (LP Mix) [DJ International]

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

congrats!

how do you know you made it in the top 10?

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

They sent an email out awhile back alerting me (and 9 other people) that we've been short listed, and asked for a bio and pic ~ in case ~ you win.

My Omar S fabric CD still stands tall as my third place trophy from 5 years ago.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

i would love to know how i did ... i think

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

Waves 3
https://soundcloud.com/ettiem/do-you-dream
"Environments: sound of the seashore" at various speeds is great for masking where you flipped the tape when you put the two sides together! Failed to write things down as I went, but it goes like The Impossibles, Carlton, Sleeparchive, ARchigram, and on from there.

andrew m., Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link

That TC Crew track really is something else!

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link

I know! Pretty much every track leading up to it is just there as an excuse to feature it.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link

here are a couple mixes i did recently. =)

http://808mixtapes.tumblr.com/post/67671705012/808-mixtapes-vol-67-mixed-by-davey-shindig-20

808 MIXTAPES vol. 67
Mixed by DAVEY SHINDIG
20 September 2013

♫♪.ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı.♫♪

1. Jacques Greene: “Quicksand”
2. Disclosure: “Tenderly”
3. GoldFFinch: “The Volume”
4. Dro Carey: “Libera Me”
5. Mount Kimbie: “Made To Stray”
6. Cashmere Cat: “Paws”
7. Kastle: “Death from Above” [feat. JMSN]
8. Jacques Greene: “On Your Side [feat. How to Dress Well]
9. CLOSE: “Future Love”
10. XXYYXX: “Good Enough”
11. Disclosure: “White Noise” / Hudson Mohawke Remix

♫♪.ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı.♫♪

http://808mixtapes.tumblr.com/post/67007572288

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808 MIXTAPES Volume 66
from ARTafterDARK, Honolulu, Hawai’i
Mixed by DAVEY SHINDIG
26 October 2013

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1. Fuck Buttons - Stalker
2. Trentemøller - Come Undone [feat. Kazu Makino]
3. Nicolas Jaar - Too Many Kids Finding Rain in the Dust
4. College - Le Choix
5. Tropic of Cancer - The Seasons Won’t Change (And Neither Will You)
6. Trentemøller - Candy Tongue [feat. Marie Fisker]
7. Cults - High Road
8. ESG - Moody
9. Quando Quango - Genius
10. ? - technopop (rough mix)
11. Tragic Error - Klatsche in die Hande
12. Cold Sensation - Ghostdance
13. Executive Slacks - The Treatment
14. Stanton Miranda - Wheels Over Indian Trails
15. ? - ?
16. Emile Strunz - Arrowhead
17. Acid Washed - Heartbeat Maker
18. Nitzer Ebb - Join in the Chant [ phil harding remix ]
19. Kavinsky - Roadgame
20. Crash Course in Science - Flying Turns
21. Mark Lane - Who’s Really Listening
22. Das Ding - H.S.T.A.

davey, Friday, 3 January 2014 06:44 (ten years ago) link

Here's my New Years Mix, first track played on the stroke of midnight. Includes Beyonce edit.

http://www.mixcloud.com/doglatin/deadbeats-nye-party-2013/

Yazz & the Plastic Population - The Only Way Is Up
Erasure - Stop!
Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (Gigamesh Mix)
Arcade Fire - Reflektor (Dustbuster Mix)
Todd Terje - Inspector Norse
Daft Punk - Get Lucky
Stylo G - Soundbwoy
Sophie - Nothing More To Say
KW Griff feat. Pork Chop - Bring In The Katz
Reverend Dollars - Noise Joint
Special Request - Soundboy Killer
Tessela - Hackney Parrot
RL Grime - Because Of U
Beyonce - Love On Top (Dog Latin's Infinite Helium Mix)

a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 3 January 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link

mixed early this morning

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https://soundcloud.com/daveyshindig/808-mixtapes-vol-70

1. College: "Départ"
2. Atom TM: "Ich Bin Meine Maschine"
3. Erol Alkan: "A Hold On Love"
4. Toro y Moi: "Say That"
5. Detroit Swindle: "The Break Up"
6. Classixx: "All You're Waiting For"
7. Tin Man: "Mystified Acid"
8. Disclosure: "Latch" [feat. Sam Smith]
9. Midland: "Trace"
10. Tiga: "Plush"
11. Darkside: "The Only Shrine I've Seen"
12. Ryan Hemsworth: "Small + Lost" [feat. Sinead Harnett]
13. Groove Armada, Brodanse, Cari Golden: "Sweat For The Money" (Club mix)
14. George FitzGerald: "Every Inch" (Deetron Remix)
15. Nadia Ksaiba: "Virtual Lover" (Jimmy Edgar Remix)
16. The xx: "Reunion" (Âme Remix)
17. Green Velvet: "Bigger Than Prince" (Hot Since 82 Remix)
18. Jamie Jones: "Planets, Spaceships"
19. Debukas: "Shake"
20. Jessy Lanza: "Keep Moving"
21. Pional: "The Shy"
22. Miss Kittin: "Cosmic Love Radiation" (Acid Washed & La Mverte Remix)

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davey, Friday, 3 January 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link

Er... this isn't so much a "mix" as just a nicely sequenced bunch of tracks that hold together in a cool way:

http://www.mixcloud.com/doglatin/give-thanks-some-recent-listening-jan-2014/

Mostly epic/creepy/jazzy/avant stuff of all genres.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Saturday, 4 January 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Hi DJ's, I need some advice on whether to buy direct or belt drive turntable. My main purpose is to listen to records and convert them to digital, but there's a chance that I'll use it to DJ in the future (when I have the money to buy a second one). Do you think belt drive sounds that much better than direct? If that's the case then I'll be willing to sacrifice the prospect of vinyl DJ-ing.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 4 January 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link

if you're going to want to DJ with it get a direct drive. Sound pretty much comes down to needle choice for me, but I'm no audiophile.

Clay, Sunday, 5 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I think only hi-fi snobs care about how much better belt drive sounds than direct drive, but even the worst party DJ reaps the benefit of direct drive.

If you want a win-win situation, there's some company that does upgrades to Technics 1200s.

Actually apparently there's a few.

http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/m1200.htm

http://www.sl-1200-mk2.com/

dan selzer, Sunday, 5 January 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

Wow thanks for the quick responses! The 1200 is slightly outside my budget and I imagine it'd be a hassle to do a digital conversion (what with the soundcards, cables, etc) so I'm eyeing this item: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002S1CJ2Q. What do you think?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 5 January 2014 00:31 (ten years ago) link

One can make the argument that nothing beats a real 1200, that they're worth the extra money, that you shouldn't need to spend anything on a soundcard (no mic in on your computer?) etc etc, but i'd also mention that that LP is generally pretty well regarded when it comes to cheaper 1200 clones w/ extra features.

If you have the money, the next AT up has even more features: http://turntablelab.com/collections/turntables-for-djing-alpha/products/audio-technica-at-lp1240-usb-dj-direct-drive-turntable

being able to control the start and stop speeds is pretty cool, though I'm not sure why anyone would want a DJ turntable with a slow start.

dan selzer, Sunday, 5 January 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link

songs and deep space for L

dj rashad - let u no
candi staton - young hearts run free (john morales mix)
sade - by your side (unreleased dance mix)
marcellis - workshop b2
hakim murphy - slapping tables
joey anderson - heaven’s archer
bee mask - the story of keys and locks (surgeon remix)
factory floor - turn it up (c2 remix)
la fleur - nightflow (kenny larkin remix)
trumpet & badman - i got the love
pal joey - loop-d-loop #19 - just the way you are
marco shuttle - the vox attitude (pangaea remix)

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Sunday, 5 January 2014 08:33 (ten years ago) link

xp i think you would be happier with a belt-drive tt. for one it's way easier to change/match speeds. i have a numark ttxusb i use for conversion. it's supposed to be fine for djing too, but it's fucking heavy and the plastic tonearm catch snapped off a little while ago. also i don't use the built-in usb conversion. if i could go back i might get one of those audio technicas but i'm still seeing used 1200s for pretty good prices here and there too...

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Sunday, 5 January 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link

What do you mean a belt-drive is easier to change/match speeds? I don't know what match speeds means, but most decent belt drives don't you have to remove the platter and change the belt to change the speed? That doesn't sound easier.

dan selzer, Sunday, 5 January 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

@dan: do you mean I can convert vinyl to digital with 1200 without soundcard?

@matt: with belt drive, I'm afraid I'd regret it someday when I want to DJ with vinyls.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 6 January 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

oof i'm dumb, i meant direct drive!!

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 6 January 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link

i deleted the last mix and did this one instead, sorry candi staton

https://soundcloud.com/susiedramas/smog

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 6 January 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link

I mean most computers have a mic input, no? All macs do.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 January 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link

Um, yes. But if the pc's soundcard is mediocre surely it affects the converted song's quality, right?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 6 January 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link

What are you, Steely Dan?

dan selzer, Monday, 6 January 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link

internal soundcards can pick up a lot of noise. it might be noticeable in those art gallery gigs, you know? seriously though it can sound pretty shitty depending on your computer. i don't think it's the quality of the sound card it's the fact that you're plugging right into a very noisy machine.

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 6 January 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link

@dan: I'm planning to use the ripped songs for DJ gigs, you know. I've listened to many shitty vinyl rips that's simply unplayable in a club. for example many levon vincent's tracks. they sound very thin, no dynamics and clarity. now I don't know if it's the soundcard, cartridge, cable, or whatever.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 6 January 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link

that was me on an old pc a few years ago, it might sound fine on yours, do what works for you, try things out and fuck "requirements" for sure. ~audio opinions~ xp

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 6 January 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link

ripping your own stuff can sound really good, rips you find elsewhere aren't always done with quality in mind. i suspect that's the intention so you'll actually pay for the record if you want to play it out.

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 6 January 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, internal soundcards/mics suck, but I agree w/ Matt that that's probably not the cause of the noise you're hearing. Probably recording at too low a volume.

But you can upgrade soundcards. For 50/60 bucks you can get an external audio interface that's probably as good or better than what's built into the AT turntables.

You also have to think about pre-amps. I'm assuming you have a simple DJ mixer of some sort. That can also help you make sure you've got your gains set well enough. I'm pretty confident that I can take the output of a 1200 through a DJ mixer into the mic input on a mac and record something that will sound fine in a club.

Or just get the LP120.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 January 2014 04:16 (ten years ago) link


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