Core or Innate Ginger Identity: Do You Have One?

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My beard (during longer summers, and probably not so much now in my salt-and-pepper days of early thirty, had a fair rusty slash from ear to chin, running through ash blond to grizzly brown.

My hair, when it was mine/there, similarly exhibited climactic chameleonism that gave me streaks at my temple come the glorious Augusts of my teens (spent working beachside restaurants and surfing) that could fairly have been categorised as ginge tips.

Both sides of the family have notable flaming lineages, as evidenced by family shots I've posted from time to time, and the youngest of our own set of lads sports a vivid orange crown and Henry VIII beard.

What do you consider to be your own ginger identity?

This thread is a safe space.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

my dad's dark brown hair started turning reddish instead of turning gray. mine appears to be doing the same thing. it is ambiguous whether this gingerness codes as masculine, but i don't think about it all that much.

sarahell, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link

This thread is a thread about follicular pigmentation thank you and good day!

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

this thread is not a palimpsest, we all know what is behind it

sarahell, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

Im sure idk what u mean

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

amnesia without loss of consciousness, brought on by the ingestion of alcohol or other substances: 'alcoholic palimpsest'.
The term is used in forensic science or forensic engineering to describe objects placed over one another to establish the sequence of events at an accident or crime scene.
Several historians are beginning to use the term as a description of the way people experience times, that is, as a layering of present experiences over faded pasts.[citation needed]
Palimpsest is beginning to be used by glaciologists to describe contradicting glacial flow indicators, usually consisting of smaller indicators (i.e., striae) overprinted upon larger features (i.e., stoss and lee topography, drumlins, etc.).
The term is also used to describe augmented realities brought about by the melding of layers of material places and their virtual representations.[6]
"Palimpsest" is a disk utility, part of the gnome-systems-monitor that looks at the details of the different storage devices, in particular the hard disks (in the GNU/linux operating system for computers).

Poll

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

fuck it, it came from derrida, i could totally be misunderstanding the term

sarahell, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

I liked the usage! It is a rich word and while confusingly misapplied to my ginger identity thread i believe you meant no harm.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

My beard (during longer summers, and probably not so much now in my salt-and-pepper days of early thirty, had a fair rusty slash from ear to chin, running through ash blond to grizzly brown.

ditto

mookieproof, Monday, 16 December 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

In the summer my hair runs toward strawberry blonde, in the winter just fuckin' red (more on the orange end of the spectrum than flaming red I guess?), my beard is red year round.
No freckles, daywalker etc. etc..

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 December 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

sadly the closest I can find in "celebrity" shades is El-P

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 December 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

How enlightening

sarahell, Monday, 16 December 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link

I've never had a ginger identity but I have had a ginger.

A New Bey Has Come (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

When vanity drives me to dye, I'm always disappointed that it fades to reddish brown, rather than my native charcoal.

I dance regularly with a ginger haired matron. The sun was not kind to that bright candle.

Disco Ebionite (Sanpaku), Monday, 16 December 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

I thought palimpsest came from using vellum as a writing surface. & people reusing old pages by scraping the surface with a knife. If this wasn't done thoroughly enough some of the previous writing would remain faintly visible.

Stevolende, Monday, 16 December 2013 08:31 (ten years ago) link

this is correct

i have ginger in my genes and self-identify as part-ginge, it varies depending on seasonal variation and onset of greyness, i think it is an awesome ingredient in a broader follicolour palette

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 08:49 (ten years ago) link

also i sported a considerable "Mallen streak" at some point in my early teens

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 08:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm dark of hair, but the closer to the centre of my face, the more ginger my beard gets. I do like it when it catches the sun sometimes and an amber glint strikes out.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 08:58 (ten years ago) link

Yeah thats good

Is it a beard tint very often? Seems to me it is. Counting beards 3/4 of us and dad have a tinge, counting only hair then it's just one. I smell a doctorate.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link

my facial hair definitely gingers out more than my head hair but that cd be because it's less mixed with other colours

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 09:11 (ten years ago) link

my dad's dark brown hair started turning reddish instead of turning gray. mine appears to be doing the same thing.

this means you are a cat iirc

It is a bit hard to hide my ginger identity*. Strangely none of my family have even ginger streaks, though I'm told my great-aunt was ginger, but I only knew her as grey. Fairly sure I'm not the postman's as I have inherited plenty of other features from my father's side of the family - mainly ones I wish I hadn't.

(* though I have known some very convincing ginger-hiders, so maybe I've just never tried hard enough)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 16 December 2013 09:31 (ten years ago) link

Straight red hair dyed black is the worst - when the roots grow out they're basically invisible, you end up with a parting that looks like Gervinho's.

A red-blond mix works well though, I'm thinking Young Americans Bowie in particular.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 December 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link

Obv, our eldest daughter Amber.

Mark G, Monday, 16 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

My beard (during longer summers, and probably not so much now in my salt-and-pepper days of early thirty, had a fair rusty slash from ear to chin, running through ash blond to grizzly brown.

ditto

And ditto again. My dad once tried growing a moustache and it turned out ginger, so he never did that again, obviously.

Heh the worst possible outcome

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link

I have some ginger stubble on my chin but that's about it. I also have a fair amount of freckles and get sunburnt pretty easily which is probably secret gingerness. I suspect this comes from my paternal grandmother whose father was from Tipperary (not sure about her mother, she could've been Irish too or he could've met her after he moved to England, dunno really - all I know about them is they disowned her to some extent after she married my grandfather (who was a protestant)).

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 16 December 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link

Not been blessed with any ginger; afaict the main physical manifestation of my Celtic blood is an increasingly ruddy complexion, which decidedly does not complement my otherwise dark features :-(

(admittedly constant dehydration may also be a factor)

I have grey in my hair, though none in beard or body hair. I think gingers are pretty hot tbh & I reckon I would enjoy being one, though I acknowledge that I leave myself open to accusations of ginger tourism by saying so.

deeja entendu (wins), Monday, 16 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

Trick or treaters wearing gingedye Y/N

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

Not cool imo

deeja entendu (wins), Monday, 16 December 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

Does Chas count as ginger in Performance after he dyes his hair with red paint?

mohel hell (Bob Six), Monday, 16 December 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

yeesh I'd forgotten about the redding up, you'd never get away with that now

deeja entendu (wins), Monday, 16 December 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

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