ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Anyone know when the Roxy poll starts?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

presumably once voting for the "2013 albums and tracks poll" ends. but i'll wait for the official prod.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 January 2014 15:00 (ten years ago) link

or after classic rock, i dunno.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 January 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

Oh dang, I traded the official prod for some blue meth over the holidays.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I think we should include ETAs of everything in the queue, just to twist the knife a little more.

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

If anyone dies under suspicious circumstances, and the person whose poll it is is implicated in said suspicious circumstances, I'm assuming they don't get to jump ahead in the line.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

I think if Bjork killed Stephin Merritt, starting her poll immediately would be the least we could do.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link

Agreed.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link

But it's not up to you.

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link

What if Extreme Metal killed Hair Metal?

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link

fight to the death against the winner of 'Producers'

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

For reference: Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

There is also this: ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

Again Thanks WilliamC for taking back over this thread, as I said before I was just keeping the seat warm until your return.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

watching thomas crown affair and wondering.. has there been a movie score poll?

Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ (brimstead), Friday, 3 January 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link

is this where I plead for you maniacs to separate the Eno and Roxy/Ferry polls?

Eno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roxy, give Ferry and Jobson and whoever their second rate solo material if you must but I will vote all Eno in protest if that's how it's gonna be.

sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 03:40 (ten years ago) link

eno poll should be a poll of inanimate objects

Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ (brimstead), Friday, 3 January 2014 03:42 (ten years ago) link

feelin u sleeve. i dunno that eno >>>>>>> roxy but def a different thing. just adds noise to both "roxy" and "eno" polls and makes results less satisfying.

cf gabriel/(and a little collins) >>>>>> genesis

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 January 2014 06:46 (ten years ago) link

The Eno / Ferry thing was settled a long time ago, was it not? Separate polls.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Put me down for They Might Be Giants. (would enough people care about a TMBG poll?)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

In at 107

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link

Where is the Classic Rock Canon poll? Having missed out on a lot of the history of this, I understand why we want to coordinate the timing so's not to have 6 million ballot polls flooding the board at once, but don't it seem like we could have one start at least every week?

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

There's a hiatus while the big EOY poll is happening...normal service will return at the start February I guess.

Two days left to vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

There's a break from these while the end-of-year polls run their course. The list should pick back up in February.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

There's a pause during the big end-of-year polls, regular polls will begin again by February.

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link

what they said, something something February

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Any reason we can't do one a week starting February?

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Most poll-runners have been leaving the voting open for 10-14 days to flog as many ballots as possible out of ILM. Some overlap is cool -- one poll open for voting while another one is rolling out its results -- but any efforts to put these polls on a timetable have been met with an unspoken "yes that's fine for everyone else but I'm going to run my poll this way." I'm not going to play the heavy -- that's the quickest way for these to grind to a screeching stop, imo.

channel 9's meaty urologist (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

Bah.

Ynysddu is the best policy (but tread Caerphilly) (staggerlee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link

plus personally if there's too many polls just wham wham wham one after another I kinda get exhausted by the whole thing, even if it's bands I like

gotta let them breeeeeeeeeeeathe maaaaaan

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

Veg, are you volunteering for George Michael/WHAM! poll?

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

nope

i'm terrified enough that I volunteered for Pearl Jam in like, 2015...ain't no way I'm volunteering for anything else EVER until that's over & it hasn't killed me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

It's really not too hard if you just throw all the ballots in your recycle bin and make up the results you want to see.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

(Just kidding about that, btw. All my polls is legit.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

classic rock nomination/discussion thread coming very soon

― ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Wednesday, January 1, 2014 9:45 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still! it's gonna be a slow burner because it seems like the big genre-spanning polls seem to take longer for people to put together ballots for (as opposed to just looking at one band's discography and quickly being able to ID favorites). so i would say, don't mind my slow progress and just proceed with any single artist polls in the queue, and we can worry about whether results rollouts overlap or anything later if it looks likely.

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link

as far as I'm concerned, you could start the discussion thread at any time & it'll be it's own board

i.e. I listened to the .38 Special greatest hits album today

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link

lol I did the same a couple weeks ago.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

we are twentieth century foxes

Euler, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

i don't wanna start the thread until i've finished the 'starting list' of a few hundred songs that we can then add to (or subtract from if there's any debatable inclusions).

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

I'm v excited for it

oooh that reminds me I need to wash the Trans Am....

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:29 (ten years ago) link

lol you didn't win that from Diamond Joe Biden in a high-stakes poker game, did you?

Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link

Veg, are you volunteering for George Michael/WHAM! poll?

Ismael Klata traded out his front-man/front-women idea and change it to this:
94. George Michael - Ismael Klata

Bee OK, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link

Oh, I thought it was the new WHAM! Lineup

Mark G, Friday, 17 January 2014 08:00 (ten years ago) link

Make it so

Pre-Madonna (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 17 January 2014 08:12 (ten years ago) link

It's the role I feel I can do

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 January 2014 08:18 (ten years ago) link

i would be up for doing a No Wave poll, or is that too esoteric?

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

i feel like that would be fun, because it's an area i've always been curious about, and theoretically it's a narrow enough categorization that i could probably listen to all the nominated records as a crash course in no wave and be able to vote.

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Monday, 20 January 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link

can we skip all the polls between the next poll and my poll?

flopson, Monday, 20 January 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link

super down for no wave

flopson, Monday, 20 January 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link

too esoteric? i mean we're doing a Sightings poll...

flopson, Monday, 20 January 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link

it's pretty cool that we should be hitting the Outkast poll right around the time they'll be touring. it's fun when the timing of the polls feels accidentally fortuitous, like when the Neptunes poll went down circa the Pharrell comeback last summer.

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Monday, 20 January 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

i am not sure that raymond understood what this thread was about btw cos shorly after he said he wanted to do a sightings poll he went ahead and did this:

Who needs a clever title for vicious industrial noise rock par excellence? The SIGHTINGS studio album poll

xp

tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Monday, 20 January 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

Are any of these ever likely to happen?

Jimi Hendrix - some dude
REM - rogermexico.
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
Bristol trip-hop - chap

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 19 July 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

rem has already been done

\///\/// It's the ILX SUPER SUMMER R.E.M. POLL OF POLLS RESULTS THREAD \///\///

mookieproof, Friday, 19 July 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

No, that's the REM poll that happened, but not the one that was proposed. I can't remember the details now because it was more than 10 years ago (but someone could look into it, if anyone is remotely bothered), but I think that poll was based on people voting from a limited selection of REM tunes that had been selected from an album-by-album series of traditional ILM polls (i.e. where you can only make one vote for one track). Then I copied the idea and did a Blur poll where people could vote for any track by Blur and then it kickstarted this whole neverending list of artist polls and at some point somebody said 'ah, we should do REM again, but this time you can vote for any track by them'. I think.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link

XP That REM poll wasn't really a standard ballot poll tho.

I can take over Hendrix.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link

oh okay

mookieproof, Friday, 19 July 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

yes, REM needs to be redone because NBS pretty much nailed the reason and that is why they were added to this list.

the Shoegaze/Dream Pop/ Post-rock (Akbums and EPs) will be done but i'm also willing to let someone take over that one if wanted. to tell the truth, i will do New Wave before that one anyways, so i would love it if someone took it over that way it will be done sooner rather than later as i can't see me doing it for at least two years.

Hendrix is yours C. Grisso/McCain

image, ballot poll #100 for the 00's poll just sounds perfect. you are on deck.

Bee OK, Friday, 19 July 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

doesnt hendrix have a really small catalog?

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

Kind of, but we've done bands with small-ish discographies before (Nirvana, Velvet Underground, Led Zeppelin etc.).

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

true. dunno how accurate this is but it says 174 tracks, which a ton are live and/or posthumous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Jimi_Hendrix

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

oh Erykah Badu might be good to do sometime too

ufo, Saturday, 20 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

I’m happy to move that poll up in the standings, for sure.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 July 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

i'll look forward to it!

ufo, Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link

I’m slammed at work for at least the next couple of weeks but what with the new book and all the timing seems good for REM soon-ish

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link

Hendrix song list is missing Slow Walkin' Talk, a demo he recorded with Robert Wyatt, so doesn't look like it's complete.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 July 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

Making sure that folks have seen this: "Dear Ms. Power, please sound more like Adele" - Cat Power - Artist Poll #99 - VOTING THREAD

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

The time has come and probably passed for a yacht rock poll.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 29 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

No, it's the perfect time!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 July 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

Define "yacht rock"

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

it's anything that isn't ambient

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

lol

budo jeru, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

haha. see we're there already.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

Seahawks is ambient yacht rock so there

octobeard, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

Broadcast! Might there be enough interest in a Broadcast poll? Small discography perhaps, but not really that small.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

i hardly know broadcast but i like the idea of being forced to listen to them in order to produce a ballot for a poll.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

^ I dig it! :)

The Replacements was another that came up elsewhere recently. I'd happily crunch numbers for that too if no one else has a burning desire to do so.

Wish I was in a better position to vote in the Cat Power one. Very interested to see how that turns out but not quite able to construct a well-informed ballot.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

Would be very much up for a Broadcast poll.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

i'll be happy to do the 00's poll over August/early September if we're keen? -- imago

So this is definitely next? I think I'll turn my mind to such matters in anticipation...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

Is the 00’s poll albums or tracks?

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

Both!

imago, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

I love love love Broadcast but yeah the catalog is too small to warrant it imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

At a quick count, 143 tracks in Broadcast discography, no problem putting together a top 50.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

I mean, I can already see myself getting annoyed when 'Phantom' and 'Ritual / Looking In' don't make it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

yeah and like a quarter of those tracks are interstitial things that are around a minute long

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

I mean fine, do whatever, I wouldn't feel compelled to vote in it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

Smaller discographies don't necessarily warrant a "Top 50" unless the actual results demand it. For instance, when I ran the Sleater-Kinney poll (a discography which at the time was around 100 tracks), the spread was enough that I had a little more than 50 tracks with enough points=two #1's, which I had set as the floor for ranking.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

Total points equivalent to two first-place votes? Oddly enough I now see I cut my last one off at almost exactly that same point (#60 in that case) without consciously applying such a criterion, so that seems intuitively 'right'. There were only ever going to be about 100 real contenders (from ~170) amongst Go-Betweens tracks, but it seemed to work okay.

I cut B&S at #60 as well, but I distinctly remember that being where the number of votes dropped below 10. That was apparently equivalent to ~4 #1s, as the number of votes was freakishly high!

As long as one can cobble together say... a top 30, using similar yardsticks, it may still be worthwhile. Besides, I secretly feel like polls are less about stats than the excuse to listen to and talk about a given artist far, far too much!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

i did: POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

even tho there were a fair amount of votes, i don't think the poll was very successful. as far as how many should be counted down? i think it depends on the results, tho i also had set boundaries like at least five votes for most polls. i really couldn't do more than a Top 20 for Joy Division as number 25 only had two votes so i didn't expand.

Bee OK, Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link

Looking closer at the S-K thread, I see I actually used something above 90 points as the floor, with 50th place having 6 votes and 97 points.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

?

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 7 February 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link

see new thread, we have a new one for the new decade. this one will be locked:

ILM Ballot Polls for 2020 and beyond -- the ordering, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link


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