Magic: The Gathering C/D

holiday cube tonight had me losing to t1 black lotus -> true name nemesis

think I have officially had my fix

anyone know any good strategy articles i can read to kill some time?

what format?

i guess i am really only interested in limited atm

the sam black article that was posted upthread was really good

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/generallimited/24692-Draft-The-Cards-You-Want-To-Play.html

this one?

yeah any of sam black on M13 limited: http://www.starcitygames.com/article/24646_Drafting-M13.html are p good. i remember watching him streaming a lot that summer, it was def helpful in improving how i play/think about limited

awesome thx dudes

would be nice to read something about Theros on that level

this was good iirc though its pretty basic stuff:
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27005_Timing-Your-Removal-Spells-Theros-Limited.html

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1404

at $75 there's gotta be a fetch or something in here

given how good these products have been in the past I would guess a $75 deck like this probably contains multiple money rares

I mean like FTV:20 level

i was wondering, have the standard equivalent of these been good in the past? this seems like simultaneously both an obvious and weird idea.

holiday cube tonight had me losing to t1 black lotus -> true name nemesis

just wanted to say wow @ this card, it's like they took everything that people disliked about protection and hexproof and evasion and put it all on the same overpowered blue card

i was wondering, have the standard equivalent of these been good in the past? this seems like simultaneously both an obvious and weird idea.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:07 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah true name nemesis is a dumb card that should have never been printed but I drafted and won with it a lot in cube. maybe they want to destroy legacy by adding purposely unfun but strong cards to the mix.

i find it really funny how legacy players have always been fine with cards that create unfun uninteractive games like wasteland and show and tell, but suddenly are up in arms when the unfun uninteractive card is explicit about being so

yeah i've played two legacy events since true name came out, its hardly a less fun card than wasteland

v curious to see whats in the modern event deck. i've spent the last 6 months or so investing in modern staples i mean 'investing' isn't really the right word but i am kinda ambivalent about reprints rn

i saw some people guessing a take on melira pod, which seems like a decent guess because you can do lots of one ofs and birthing pod is obv never getting reprinted in a standard-legal set again. it also allows them a lot of flexibility over how many and which fetches they include

I have always found land destruction fun, I don't think it's worse than hand disruption really

doing Cube and the flashback Saga drafts is pretty interesting just to see all the stuff that's been rather subtly phased out of the game. part of me feels like they are tailoring the game a tad to accomodate MTGO.

my guess for the modern event deck was BW tokens - its not really a popular tier 1 deck in modern right now but it's playable, easy to pick up, and it explains the inclusion of the 2-sided tokens mentioned in the presser thing (spirits b/w soldiers). i don't think they're gonna do a combo deck and they're also obviuosly not handing out playsets of tarmogoyfs etc so that deck falls in a good spot where they could actually put in enough copies of the exciting cards (marsh flats, thoughtseize, etc) to make the deck playable without causing a panic

I think I'm gonna get into Modern soon, the stores here are alternating FNMs between that and Standard, and Modern seems to be drawing a lot of people. I haven't built a new standard deck in nearly 18 months so it kinda sucks to see all my stuff rotate out.

modern is in a pretty decent spot right now imo though i wouldn't mind a ban or unban this time around just to shake things up

my question is, how do I make Seance work

tokens is also pretty friendly to newer players, doesn't depend on a weird combo or lots of decisions

also

ban drs unban ancestral visions

the modern ban list:

Ancestral Vision
Ancient Den
Bitterblossom
Blazing Shoal
Bloodbraid Elf
Chrome Mox
Cloudpost
Dark Depths
Dread Return
Glimpse of Nature
Golgari Grave-Troll
Great Furnace
Green Sun's Zenith
Hypergenesis
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Mental Misstep
Ponder
Preordain
Punishing Fire
Rite of Flame
Seat of the Synod
Second Sunrise
Seething Song
Sensei's Divining Top
Stoneforge Mystic
Skullclamp
Sword of the Meek
Tree of Tales
Umezawa's Jitte
Vault of Whispers
Wild Nacatl

feel like the 'best' card to unban is ponder most likey idk - bitterblossom? there really arent that many cards on here that couldnt come off except like skullclamp, top and depths. although i have no idea why blazing shoal is banned.

infect I think?

Please not Skullclamp, that card is so stupid

I don't see why Top needs to be banned but I really dislike that card so I'm fine with that

helps combo / makes games take too long

also if it's not banned counterbalance has to be

yeah top is banned for the same reason second sunrise is banned - no one wants to play against it

I have top in my edh deck and I always hate when I actually use it

at least w/ edh you can do it on someone else's turn

so is Eggs dead or can you just use the 3W version of Second Sunrise that was printed in one of the recent core sets?

both

http://www.salon.com/2001/03/23/wizards/

^ of general interest

xp there's a playable and possibly good krark-clan ironworks combo deck that's similar to the eggs deck, but it's near impossible to play on MTGO so the list hasn't really had a way to propagate.

i think wild nacatl is the easiest card to unban in modern and a lot of people expect it to happen now that we have another 1-drop in Deathrite that is just as omnipresent as nacatl used to be

blazing shoal is banned because of sam black's deck from PT philadelphia (the first modern PT) which could kill on turn 2 fairly consistently

born of the gods keyword mechanics appear to be:

Inspiration - Whenever ~ untaps, reveal the top card of your library. [do thing based on revealed card]

Tribute N ((As this creature enters the battlefield, an opponent of your choice may put N +1/+1 counters on it.) [some ability that keys off whether tribute was paid]

tribute unfortunately is a variant of the 'punisher mechanic' or so it's called, which tends to make cards look powerful and exciting but play horribly since they are always the worst case scenario of their 'modes' (Vexing Devil being the best recent example, where both halves are way more than you're supposed to get for 1 mana but the card was unplayable)

yeah my first reaction to tribute is 'ignore this text'

They're a little different from the other punisher cards in that you still get the creature regardless, you either get creature + effect or big creature, but either way you don't just get nothing like you go when your opponent pays 5 life for Browbeat. Those cards only seemed decent to me in decks that played a lot of burn, where an opponent paying 5 life really was something significant. Given that 5/5+ creatures are difficult to deal with in this Limited format I think cards like Phagarax Giant are going to be interesting there at least. I do think they'll have to really push them to make them playable in Standard but I assume R&D knows that already

also I've been getting into some arguments as to what "devotion for white and blue" means, some ppl locally are saying it means you need 7 white symbols AND 7 blue symbols which to me makes no sense because they'd be nearly impossible to activate. but still I don't know how that card would work with something like Judge's Familiar

it only counts once

also Inspired is just "whenever this untaps, do X", it's not necessarily tied to your top card. at least it explains why they decided to reprint Springleaf Drum

I'm looking forward to drafting around this

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/bng/KDJ)D(jk2m2389/bCXl3Zxdwu_EN.jpg

that looks like one of those uncommons that always goes late but can wreck people if you draft around it

yeah if there if there is anything similar to the ths cantrip auras that could be brutal

well those will still be available in pack 2&3 of drafts