i'll admit i didn't recognize the red dragon credits and while they're not particularly iconic they're undoubtedly cheaper than seven-style credits
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
i mean i LIKE that the show doesn't trade exclusively in spoonfed Star Wars-level pop culture references but My Dinner With Andre refs >>>>> this
― some dude, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
i wouldn't say its up to the level of that episode, sure, but if you got confused because they were paying tribute to a popular filmmaking aesthetic rather than one specific movie that's on you
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
it sounds like you're mad no one said "ITS LIKE ZODIAC!"
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
i thought the montage at the end where life goes on and no one is certain who the culprit was while the ben folds song played felt like a direct homage to zodiac
― Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
iirc there was also a photo of a dragon-tattoo-ish punk lady on a locker early on
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
did they not really deal w/ torture serial killer flicks in the ep or did i miss some references (hostel/saw/etc)?
― Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
nah it was pretty much the post-seven brand
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
well i got all the stuff that was broad genre parody but i'm assuming there's some Hannibal-specific stuff that went over my head -- again i have no idea how much.
― some dude, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
in any event it felt like they wanted to do something else in the vein of the Law & Order ep or the conspiracy theory episode but didn't have as strong a hook for it, i dunno.
― some dude, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
i've never seen an ep of hannibal fwiw and didn't catch any refs to it
― Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
i dunno, the stuff vg ref'd up thread - "rain, classical music, weird colors" - are all fincher tropes too
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
if i hadn't read the thread first i would have primarily assumed zodiac, considering the show consisted of attack sequences followed by threatening letters, paranoid detectives in glum settings and an ambiguous "will we ever know" montage
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
but if this is all like hannibal too, then shit i gotta see me some hannibal
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
are creepy greenhouses a film noir thing, or am i just thinking of "the big sleep" and extrapolating it to all film noir?
― reddening, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
more just going into a claustrophobic space, a spooky guy at the end of the hallway bolting upon spotting the detectives, and the detectives having to thrash around the claustrophobic setting, hopefully breaking at least one glass object
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
almost disappointed there wasn't more of ben folds
first time i've said that since high school
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
also i don't think this really pulled anything from hannibal other than a heightened stylized air, but everyone should still watch hannibal cuz it's great.
― reddening, Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
i think creepy greenhouses/labs are definitely a thing tho the main example i can think of atm is varicella
― Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
both make great lairs, naturally cluttered spaces with sharp corners
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
there's the creepyish greenhouseish guy in Twin Peaks too.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
re this episode, I thought I was missing a key reference point because I didn't recognise the credits, but I think if not for those I'd just have taken it as a general post-Seven serial killer thing.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
i don't think it was just hannibal. but abed's "profiler" was def a hannibal ref. "so many.. profiler shows... on basic.. cable.. so much pain.. ful writing."
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
except hannibal isn't on basic cable and is a spin-off of a movie franchise dating back to the 90s
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
not saying they aren't aware of hannibal (as per abed's dvr) just that the slow talking profiler wasn't invented in the last three years
'80 actually, re hannibal
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
the music in the DMB reseach scene was taken from a research scene in Seven
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
oh, and Abed was deleting episodes of "The Bridge" and "Hannibal" show that have detectives with Aspberger's. He was also deleting episodes of "Johnny Spectrum"
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link
or maybe the Hannibal guy doesn't actually have Aspberger's but they say he's "on the spectrum"
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:40 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha ok that's great. especially if that's an indication that one of the things they're walking back from season 4 is how Abed had begun to seem less like a functional adult than he had in earlier seasons.
― some dude, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
― da croupier, Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right i wasn't saying the _content_ of the bit was all about hannibal. the delivery and setup was pure will tho.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
man i hope hannibal is like the platonic ideal of these tropes cuz everything being described as oh so hannibal seems oh so familiar even though i've never seen the show
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
"rain? classical music? a slow talking profiler? someone's clearly picking up what nbc's been putting down since april '13!"
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfXuNJxWw88
filmed in 1999
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
I'm on the "what are they parodying?" train, but I totally dug this episode. Love Troy with the blankets and cups, and Starburns' "hee haw!" was A+.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
"This is how they comfort victims in movies"
"Wait a minute, ants DO have butts!"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
yeah starburns dave hee haw was probably the second biggest laff of the night for me after the dean snapping his fingers trying to get the call traced
― balls, Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
oh man, the snapping thing stressed me out.
― Øystein, Saturday, 11 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
http://31.media.tumblr.com/84e0a0ad660be36c380191a57bfb68da/tumblr_mz5rj673gE1rd1qi0o1_500.gif
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
dean in the press conference was funny too
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
Dean's snapping was ace, especially w/ the "look at the extension" tag
I mean, NBC has to renew something and its hitting that syndication gravy train
Gravy is for Sony, not NBC (though this means they're likely to make it super-worthwhile to NBC to buy another 13.)
― giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
in love with this show all over again
― Sufjan Grafton, Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
this episode didn't have a ton of lols, but it had whatever quality harmon brings to the show in spades, and I thought it was solid.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link
"I went backstage, met all the band... except Dave".
― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 January 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link
wau this thread turned into a really cool ~*ALTERNATE REALITY GAME*~ wau jfc
also
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 13 January 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link
nbc is a broadcast network. basic cable channels are amc, comedy central, espn, that sorta thing.
― Clay, Monday, 13 January 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link
OH LOL
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 13 January 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
nvm had a brainfart
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 13 January 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link
NBC's ratings are comparable to those of middling basic cable networks, so the confusion is understandable.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 13 January 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link