Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

honestly though, that's another thing i like about the Dylan stuff, is that it's generally pretty reasonably priced...I got Another Self Portrait 2CD on sale for like 16 bucks

― ilx snitch (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 13, 2014 10:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dat's true but they also come in ultra super mega deluxe editions with an extra CD that cost like $300

yeah the safety tape sound quality is 10x the tree w/ roots and other bootleg sets, and still better than the officially released basement tapes. which means that when we do get the "official" complete basement tapes there is no reason for it to sound anything but amazing

i love some of the folk ballads he does on the full basement tapes e.g. banks of the royal canal

jesus christ finding Dylan outtakes for free on the internet is next to impossible (and I am just trying to replace stuff that I bought and lost!)

http://thousandhighways.blogspot.com/

yeah I've been there

I was looking for a handful of tracks from Bootleg Series 1-3 and Biograph

http://www.bigozine2.com/ also has lots of Dylan from time to time: mostly shows these days, although I got several things that ended up on Another Self-Portrait, way before that was even annoiced, and some Basement Tapes tracks not on A Tree. However, the latter has lots of tracks not on that xpost safety tape (thanks for pointing me toward a chance for better audio, though).
PS: bigo's got the sounds for sure, but you might wanta avert yr eyes from the political shit.

Soulseek!

Oh, speaking of The Basement Tapes---behold The New Basement Tapes: mid-60s left-behind BD lyrics, with new music by---well, let's hope they rise to the occasion (fairly hopeful about Rhiannon Giddens, of Carolina Chocolate Drops): http://www.thenewbasementtapes.com/?cid=nl%3A990116528&utm_medium=email&utm_source=uscolumbia-bobdylan&utm_campaign=email|990116528|20140819&utm_content=nllink-3b04431e-thenewbasementtapes.com

Haven't brought myself to watch the video yet (bottom left of this page)

jesus christ finding Dylan outtakes for free on the internet is next to impossible

yessssssssssss

ineluctable really but that took long enough

it's happening???!?!

Apparently, Garth Hudson was closely involved with the restoration process for this set, and possibly the mastering (I think they were even his tapes?). Hope he gets some dough from it.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss

but why only highlights on vinyl and complete set on cd?

Considering the CD set is ... $148 (over a dollar a track!), I can only imagine what they would charge for vinyl.

yeah, you're right

I wonder if they make a lot of money on a release like this - believe I read somewhere that the original boots 1-3 (limited to 5000 copies on vinyl, couldn't be a big seller?) were more an idealistic project by some studio heads that were bobheads too - maybe the game done changed

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-complete-basement-tapes-bootlegs-released-november-20140826

Now that the Basement Tapes are finally being released, the Dylan camp is considering its next archival project. "We're thinking we'll revisit the 1975 era and Blood on the Tracks," says the source. "The unheard stuff from there is crazy. You can hear the first day of recordings before they put all that echo on. It's amazing." A question about a possible follow-up to Bob Dylan's 2004 book, Chronicles: Volume One, elicits a laugh and two words: "No comment."

oh wow, OK I will probably buy this at some point

If the mp3 version of the complete edition is less than 40 bucks I'll cough up for that. I'll never be able to afford the physical deluxe ed.

i already didn't pay for a bootleg copy, i'm surely not going to not pay again just to help major labels in their endless quest to profit from repackaging the music of the past in newer formats

That'll show them.

repackaging? it's never been released!!

; )

i.... don't know what that means

he's saying pay up, dude

no wai i can't afford that shit

why is a 6 cd set 150$ anyway? is the compiling/remastering/packaging very expensive? with these prices they're sure to drive down sales - probably everything will be available on spotify anyway...

hardcover book, fancy packaging, and they can get that damn much from fools like me.

yeah, they can also get me to pay for the vinyl - and I don't even get the full package! Still haven't heard the Isle of Wight show from Bootleg 10 because it wasn't on vinyl edition... Guess I'll pay for the vinyl but dl the massive collection, then buy it used on cd in 5 years when cds have even less resell value than now.

why is a 6 cd set 150$ anyway? is the compiling/remastering/packaging very expensive? with these prices they're sure to drive down sales - probably everything will be available on spotify anyway...

― niels, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 1:02 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Compared to the extra $100 for the 3rd disc on Tell Tale Signs, $150 for 6 discs is a bargain.

And Amazon prices usually drop between pre-order announcement and release day.

And fopp will end up with loads of unsold deluxe boxes for £30 or thereabouts

There's a version of Odds and Ends up on Soundcloud
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/bob-dylan-basement-tapes-odds-and-ends-premiere-20140826

Sounds great! A lot of the expectingrain.com-fans are already declaring this somewhere between best Bootleg since '66 live and "best rock album in the past 60 years"...

Really hope they have proper cover art on the way.

I saw that there was a 2cd/3lp version of the set being released too. Is taht what they're calling RAW? or is that a general name for the release?

Anyway, now that I know that the full set is going to be that expensive I'll probably plunk for the smaller release in physical form, possibly something else digitally.

Was there an issue with the sound on the released Basement Tapes? Something is at the back of my mind on that but I can't think what it is.

Also did the 70s lp version wind up getting a remaster at the time the definitive masters were coming out in the 00s? I don't remember seeing one at the time, but think I may have come across some reference to one later. Also did the 1st s/t lp get a remaster in that series? I think I got a remastered version but not sure if it was done at the same time nor where my copy is. I always loved taht 1st lp semed like acoustic hardcore when i first heard it, probably because of other things I was listening to at the time but also because it has an amazing amount of attack for an acoustic folk lp.

don't know if there were sound issues per se, but I think Robertson overdubbed some parts

maybe Dylan's voice seems clearer in the Odds&End take?

anyway, a remaster should be good, Another Self Portrait had amazing sound compared to SP, Dylan and New Morning

I thought a lot of the stuff on the Basement Tapes was not even from the sessions just tacked on Band studio tracks (like Bessie Smith)

The original Basement lp got remastered alongside Before The Flood, New Morning, and, er, Dylan & The Dead back in 2009. Shortly thereafter a leak of Garth Hudson's safety tape reel of like 20+ tracks in pristine quality appeared online.

As for tinkering on the o.g. album, Robertson over saw a faux stereo mix in addition to overdubbed vocals and instrumental parts from The Band (mostly guitar and drums iirc) on the Dylan material. As noted, all of The Band's own songs on the album were all recorded later, even though it was material tied to that time.

I'm curious if Helm's on this set at all. I think he might've done an overdub or two for the 1975 release (and was obviously on the Band tracks), but had he returned from Arkansas in time to be heard on these tapes?

yeah he's on some stuff -- right around this point he pops up. maybe he's on some of the un-booted stuff too?
14. 900 Miles from My Home (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
15. Wildwood Flower (written by A.P. Carter)
16. One Kind Favor (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
17. She’ll be Coming Round the Mountain (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
18. It’s the Flight of the Bumblebee

Oh, cool! It's hard for me to imagine Band singing without him.

It's funny, Robertson always talks about, "it was so casual, we were just hanging out, doing whatever, didn't think anyone would hear it" but then also "I CALLED LEVON AND SAID GET BACK HERE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS AMAZING WHAT'S HAPPENING!"

yeah i'm sure robertson was having his mind blown on a regular basis during that time, even if he plays it off as being just dudes hanging out.
levon also returned to the fold because danko told him they were being offered a six-figure record deal too iirc, haha. bizarre to imagine the band if he had been like "nah, i'm going to continue working on this oil rig."

Ha, yeah, I figured it was more than "hey, we're hanging with Dylan -- you know, that guy who's tour you quit -- in his house recording music no one will hear" that got Levon off the oil rig.

listening to a tree with roots this morning - THE BASEMENT TAPES ARE SO GOOD

^^^^

https://38.media.tumblr.com/8f6d3264c9b622a4f3f63fb57d37d429/tumblr_naxgvk3uY31rbwx2xo1_500.jpg

woah where is that from

was over on the expecting rain forums -- seems like it's from the same time as this one?
http://images.macmillan.com/folio-assets/macmillan_us_frontbookcovers_1000H/9780312572914.jpg
same hat anyway.

Some weird synchronicity: woke up this morning thinking 'I really need to listen to a Tree with Roots today', fired it up, listened on commute, got to the office to see they're releasing this thing finally. So strange

he needs to bring back the Davy Crockett hat + up-to-the-chin overalls, getting kind of an Adam Ant vibe from that look

For all the sturm und drang over RR's overdubs and Band demos, I've always dug the shit out of things like "Yazoo Street Scandal." Big Pink Funk with Calliope Garth Hudson wheedling over the top is ok in my book. And however they came up with it, the BT's version of "This Wheel's on Fire" is fucking definitive.