rolling disgruntled shootings thread 2010

The shooter sat down and put the gun in his lap.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oejMv9uUr5c/T1LxLikXT7I/AAAAAAAABEU/j_by4Mlr7G0/s400/shooter%2Bmcgavin%2Bgif.gif

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/new-mexico-school-shooting/?hpt=hp_t2

http://newsdiffs.org/diff/401687/401815/www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/us/florida-man-is-shot-to-death-for-texting-during-movie-previews.html

Original NYT story on the theater shooting was headlined "Florida Man Is Shot to Death for Texting During Movie Preview" and included the sentences:

The killing underscored the increased debate about when to use smartphones in public. In October, the singer Madonna was spotted texting during the Lincoln Center premiere of “12 Years a Slave.” That led Tim League, chief executive of Alamo Drafthouse, a Texas-based chain of boutique cinemas, to post on Twitter that she was banned from watching movies at his theaters.

protip - you can turn down brightness and mute your stupid devices you cant put down for 120 minutes.

protip you should be able to go to a movie and annoy people without fear of getting fucking shot

i just assume whenever i go out there's a 20% chance i'm going to get shot for no reason whatsoever

stay home, at least get shot by someone you love

I spend the first ten minutes of every movie contemplating the 'vision cones' of imaginary shooters and planning our escape route

I can't tell if you're joking or not but I basically plan escape routes wherever I go, under the assumption one day I will need to run for my life from a crazy person/racist

Yeah, I've been in that mode since Aurora. Movies, supermarkets, restaurants, back-to-school night.

I've been in that mode since I was 8.

Holy shit. That sounds stressful. So you always have it in the back of your head that someone might go crazy in the public places you go to?

Reminds me of how I read somewhere that "guys" always size each other up and figure out who are "potential threats" in bars &c. I have never ever done anything like this (and yes, I'm male), and I find it really hard to believe that's a common thing. The idea just makes me laugh and think of the "ocular patdown" in Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

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Holy shit. That sounds stressful. So you always have it in the back of your head that someone might go crazy in the public places you go to?

I always have it in the back of my head that someone might violently object to my presence because I'm a black man in America and statistics aren't in my favor.

protip you should be able to go to a movie and annoy people without fear of getting fucking shot

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:48 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

i disagree

Oh man. Being a white guy in Norway = privilege of mooning around completely oblivious to the world as a cruel place.

xp I was not joking. This is relatively new to me, a privilege of being middle class and white in the USA

Oh man. Being a white guy in Norway = privilege of mooning around completely oblivious to the world as a cruel place.

Well now that Anders Behring Breivik is locked up, for sure

well, the flipside to that is afaict Anders Breivik is an aberration in Norway, whereas there are probably close to a million people in the US who are likely to shoot someone in the next five minutes

I remember being dragged along with my class into a semi-trailer parked outside of our elementary school where some guy explained the dangers of driving around railroad crossing barriers. He pointed to a 7-segment countdown display on the wall and noted that someone dies from a train collision every time the clock counts down to zero. I don't understand the purpose of this education given that we were all under 10 years of age and could not drive. It just gave me a general feeling of dread and insecurity when in the car with my parents. He also explained to us that we should run toward the approaching train if our vehicle were ever stuck on the tracks. That way, post collision debris would not kill us.

anyway, DJP's countdown reminded me of this is all. sorry for the derail. run towards the derail. carry on.

post collision debris would not kill us

presumably because the train would kill you first? idgi

i think he means if you're in a car about to get hit by a train, instead of running away from the train (in the same direction the car and its debris would be flying) run towards and past the train, in the opposite direction it's going.

I would think instinctively you'd run away from the track (perpendicular to the direction the train is travelling). I guess running towards the train might be better, but if the train derails, which seems likely, it might be dangerous to be too close to the track, even if you're upstream from the point of impact.

yes, I think there will be a wide debris cone that you are trying to avoid. The original instruction may have involved a smaller angle than 180 degrees relative to the train's vector to account for track proximity. I don't remember.

So, running at a 45 degree angle (where running toward the train is 0 deg) would be best?

Of course then you have to worry about which side . . . I guess for that you'd take track curvature into account.

run away from the train at a 65 degree angle, then turn around and run directly at its side

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mental note - always carry a protractor

well if the train's vector were pointed at 0 degrees, I'd imagine that running at something around 135 degrees is best. But if there's a safe distance from the track that must be obtained, you'd have to modify this accordingly while also knowing the velocity of the train.

i was told there would be no math on this thread

so fire a gps transmitter at the train from your utility belt before doing anything

all train conductors should be required to wear gps hats for this reason

the real question is how to run away from someone shooting at you. is the ever-popular zigzag still the best?

well if you thing about vision cones, it can be best to run toward a safe exit on the side of the room of the shooter. if you run away from the shooter, he will see you.

actually if someone's shooting at people, the recommendation I've heard (from "safety professionals") is to freeze. shooters prone to shooting things that move.

approximate the shooter (or train) as a sphere with a cone of debris emission and act accordingly

http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/legolas/animations/legolasttt29.gif

I think this type of move is the best to deal with oncoming trains

that is interesting shakey mo, I had not read that.

al otm

yeah I thought that was interesting. it was part of the annual safety presentation in my office building, along with what to do in the event of fire, earthquake, bomb threat etc.

I dunno, I played Quake deathmatches online a bunch back in the days, and people always killed the hell out of the frozen dudes.

let me explain to you the differences between real life and video games

Please inform a few newspapers while you're at it.

freezing may indeed be the right move but i don't know I'd have the courage to test it when the time comes

I feel the same way

plus I think my usual Chicago Bears Zubaz pants draw attention

yeah freezing while practical seems idk kinda TERRIFYING