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I should be finished this tomorrow, less than 100 pages to go. Part with Archimboldi is the best. My favourite digression in the book is the one about Ansky's notebook.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Monday, 2 March 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

man this book is so good i feel like just straight up readin it again

max, Monday, 2 March 2009 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I keep thinking about it. The last part is great, amazing reallyread by itself, (and Ansky's notebook IS a great digression, of which there are many), but I think The Part About the Crimes is the best, and has the novel's climactic moment. The fifth is basically anti-climax. (And, did anyone else sense a falling off in the fifth book, in the last 30 pages or so?)

donald nitchie, Monday, 2 March 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Finished. I think I've taken 4 months to read that, even though I really enjoyed it and probably rank it as the best novel written in at least a decade, and definitely the best written by a Spanish language author who was born after 1950. I just have a really short attention span and have read four novels, a biography, a book of history and the majority of Gravity's Rainbow (which I'll start finishing later today) while reading this.

I thought the part with the crimes was good, and crucial to the book. The horror and the repetition really need to be in there to make the novel work. However I just really enjoyed the part about Archimboldi more, although yes, I would say the end part with Lotte is maybe not the best part of the book and serves more to tie things up than to really add much.

Another favourite bit of the last part was the guy who rents him the typewriter and his talk about minor and major works. Also interesting was earlier on in the book Amalfitano's talk of the prestige of shorter works going up while the magnum opuses are neglected. What a great book!

Now going to have to try and track down his other books in Spanish on abebooks or something, have only read the Savage Detectives so far.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Monday, 2 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

haha ok how many people posted on this thread and forgot to vote

i do this all time including probably this poll.

jim fwiw while i loved savage detectives like crazy and deeply enjoyed 2666 i havent really felt his other stuff and by other stuff i guess i mean by night in chile and some of the stories from last night on earth. the metafictive stuff is there but the characters and stories are less compelling i think theyre kind of sloppy too.

no country for heigel-lohan (Lamp), Monday, 2 March 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

damn, see, I was slightly worried about that. Like I've read what are considered almost unanimously the two best works and anything else I had worried would be anti-climax.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Quite saddened that By Night in Chile wasn't called "Storms of shit" as Bolano originally planned.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

stoked, shd have my copy tomorrow :DD

cozwn, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

not sure how i feel about this

The newspaper said the documents also included what is believed to be a sixth section of Bolaño's epic five-part novel 2666.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

why feel bad??? if its terrible or boring than its terrible and boring wont change the fact that o.g. 2666 is fukkin dope just means more 2 read

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess he means bolano prob never wanted it published

just sayin, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah true, bit i'd like to know a little more about why it wasn't included in the first place.

xp

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

not to rehash the same arguments from the dfw thread (where i definitely came down on the side of "publish that shit", btw), but this seems like a different situation.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

ha r u guyz arguing about the nyer article? we talked abt it a little on ilc

i guess i generally just feel like its better than all those 19th c. dudes who had their letters and unfinished work and w/e else burned in a fyre by scandalized siblings. even publishing this 6th part is just a shamless cash grab from macmillan and co. better it has a lyfe than not

its also weird to me like if someone writes something bad now everything is bad its not like ppl wont understand this isnt nec how bolano envisioned things

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i can sympathize w/ writers like john d and mr que about not wanting their shit published when they dye but as an unpublished wannabe 23 yr old writer w/ a ridic amnt of unfinished shit on my computer--yall can publish it if i die, please do, it wd feel nice, to know that someone wanted to publish, my writing

that comes 4rom the hart

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i can sympathize but in the end ur dead and im not so i think publish w/e fsg will publish and sb u on the other side

i am really interested to see what the hell a 6th part would be about so chalk all this up 2 that

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

pls publish my twitter when i am dead thx

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

ghost twitter

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i sort of hope the 6th part is a myth dreamed up as some kind of next-level art/promotion device btw bolano and his agents cuz having the book have this missing empty ending that no one will ever read would be more 2666 than 2666 itself

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

este huevón.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Sunday, 24 May 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Random question - does anyone have any idea what font is used for the title on the book cover?

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Friday, 20 November 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Still haven't gotten past "The Part About Archimboldi." Must. press. forward.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 20 November 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Wait - isn't that the last part?

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Friday, 20 November 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

First part, I thought. The book begins by focusing on the Archimboldi scholars.

Or maybe that's the part about the critics?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 20 November 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

thats the part abt the critics

just sayin, Friday, 20 November 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Makes sense. I haven't gotten past that part yet, is what I meant.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 20 November 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

By all means, keep going. And then, in the event that you get stuck for a bit during The Part About the Crimes, keep going through that, too. It's worth it.

But yeah, what font is that?

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Friday, 20 November 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I abandoned this book somewhere in the middle of The Part About the Crimes about a month ago. I keep meaning to pick it up again but it's pretty grueling stuff.

Number None, Friday, 20 November 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"And then, in the event that you get stuck for a bit during The Part About the Crimes, keep going through that, too. It's worth it"

in retrospective,after reading through it, my advice to Number None and Daniel is the opposite.
don't let this over long part disturb yr reading, skip it if you get tired, it's not getting anywhere till the end of that part.

Zeno, Friday, 20 November 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Which font - the US version or the UK version?

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Friday, 20 November 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh - good question... I'm an American who lives in the UK, and the book was a gift. I've not paid close enough attention to which version I have. Looks like this, though:

http://bookfinds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/2666.jpg

Hobocamp, Saturday, 21 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Bolano's name is in Facade MT Condensed: http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=205963

The '2666' isn't done with a normal font--it's scanned from an old woodcut typeface: the designer says, "Ideally, I didn't want to use a digital typeface, so I was pleased to discover the woodcut face that eventually made its' way onto the final designs." ; http://www.faceoutbooks.com/#13855/2666

Hope that helps!

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Sunday, 22 November 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Bought this back at the end of December last year (back when it was still being published in a three volume box set), but life and other books and insane work hours conspired to get in the way. Finally had time to take it down off my shelf last week and I just finished The Part About the Critics. Blown away thus far.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 22 November 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

By all means, keep going.

I will. In fact, I'll turn back to 2666 right after I'm done with Nixon: Alone In The White House.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 22 November 2009 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link

James, that's incredibly helpful - thank you very much. Great stuff at that link!

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Sunday, 22 November 2009 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Finished The Part About the Crimes a week or two ago, needed to take a break for a bit. Started The Part About Archamboldi this afternoon. That was friggin' intense.

Alex in Montreal, Friday, 1 January 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone re-read this yet? It's tempting me, but my queue of unread books wants to get in the way.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 4 January 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Has anyone re-read this yet? It's tempting me, but my queue of unread books wants to get in the way.

Having just finished it, I already want to if only to try and get a handle on the whole, but I have too many other books that I've ignored while ploughing through this the first time. Perhaps in a month or two.

Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 28 February 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and Part V, despite the rushed ending, is probably my favourite, followed by Part I - I'm never clear if his intentions in Part I are to lampoon or sympathize with his characters, whereas the rest of the book is filled with people understood without condescension or irony (or at the very least described with a clearer measure of affection). Part II and III have faded for me - both seem slighter, somehow, but perhaps a return to them will reveal depths that I missed initially.

Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 28 February 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i voted pt. v. it was definitely the most old-school literary section of the novel, meaning it read like it could have been written in the '40s or '50s (maybe because of all the WWII stuff) but i don't know, i enjoyed it the most and archimboldi was the best character and i'm glad he made some effort to tie things together somewhat

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pt. III was the worst, a lot of it seemed awkward and false and fate never really resonated as a character

n/a and I always agree on books.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought it was a mess.

corey, Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i hadn't noticed that A,LS. we disagree a lot on music and movies and other things so that's interesting.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Your David Mitchell recs were spot-on, and I agree with just about everything you've posted about him.

My rankings:

5
1
4
3
2 (I really thought this was the most expendable)

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

He could have folded a lot of the Amaltifano material into asides and digressions in Pts 1 and 3 imo.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

most expendable but also one of my favorites

adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

everybody hates 4, and finds it hard to read, and right on with that, but I feel like it's a kind of apotheosis of something

*checks to make sure that word is being used correctly*

your generation apples me (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 28 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

the scene at the very end of pt 3 thru pt 4 was my favorite. I'm a giant lost in the middle of a burned forest. But someone will come to rescue me gave me chills

then pt 4 with its information overload of murders really made me feel like i was lost in a burned forest

tyler 'scratch' perry (diamonddave85), Monday, 28 March 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think i disliked any individual part, it was more that there were parts that read & you really got into it & then it slows down & feels more laborious, but all the parts had essential moments to the degree that i cant really space them out like that ... it feels like 50 different patchy memories thrown together

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Monday, 28 March 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean that in a good, not entirely unorganized way

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Monday, 28 March 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

everybody hates 4, and finds it hard to read

crazy talk

sorry ozzy but your dope is in another castle (Edward III), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link


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