Not owning a television: c or d?

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I keep forgetting I have a TV.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have a TV but rarely watch it. I used to have 'expanded basic' cable, and I got this channnel that showed reruns of Law and Order almost every night and I loved that cuz that's my favorite show. I recently downgraded to just basic cable which is much cheaper, but I haven't seen Law and Order since then. Last night it was on and I got kind of excited, but then I fell asleep before it came on.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't own a television. Haven't, in fact, ever lived in a household with one except for a few years from the ages of about 13 to 17. I honestly doubt that I'm missing all that much.
However, I can certainly empathize with Tuomas. There have been many times (particularly when I was a wee m. instead of a big M.) that I felt a bit of a pop-culture cripple.

Oh, and that self-righteous smugness that Tep was referring to is definately a huge DUD.

M., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I dunno, people who watch tv and expect everyone to share their hobby and make people feel bad and alienated because they don't watch "Friends" = bigger DUD. I'd rather people be self-satisfied about not watching tv than about watching it.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know what you mean, but it's not really a binary proposition. It's like saying you prefer people who don't read anything to people who grab you by the hand and insist on telling you the latest gossip from the National Enquirer as if it were gospel. The worst and most visible of a medium isn't the whole of the medium. I'm most comfortable with people who are literate across different media; I watch more television than most people I know, but I read more books, too, and listen to a wider range of music. That's just what I do - my blind spots are in other areas.

(And like a few people have said, "watching TV" often means "watching movies" or "watching sports," without having to go to the theater or the park.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like to watch TV w/ the sound off (subtitles optional) and music on.

This seems like a real stoner habit.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sometimes I like to have the tv on when I'm home alone at night to make the place feel less empty.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does it work?

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

*sigh*

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to have to turn the TV or radio on when I moved into my first apartment; I grew up in a relatively rural area, and the idea of being able to hear your neighbors is still a very strange one to me. Adding my own ambient noise covers up the shuffling-and-dishwashing-and-whatever noises from stage left and stage right, so I don't get that weird "hang on, someone's here who isn't me" vibe.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sarah, just get more cats!

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ha ha. One day maybe, Chris. In the meantime, I do live with my bf and he's there most of the time I am. I just get lonely easily, especially at night if he's at practice. And the cats like to sleep when he's away so they can be little terrors when he comes in the door.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Watcing TV with no sound and music playing is something I do fairly often. (Well, except most things musical in my world are packed up right now.) I haven't been stoned since 1997.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm off. Curb Your Enthusiasm is on in twenty minutes, UK people!

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

we got rid of our telly over 1 yr ago. we both got sick of falling asleep on the sofa in front of it. since we dumped it, i do more musick, and spend more time here, and my, uh, partner, does more art 7 reading. no tv = classic!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I didn't get rid of my TV because I though it would make me look intellectually superior; the thing was just gathering dust because I rarely watched it. The final straw was when my VCR broke down - watching videos was the only real use I had for my TV set.

So my point wasn't "Am I cool for not owning a television?", I was just saying that I've come notice how much people's lives revolve around the telly. This is no news, of course, but it's a thing you really notice only after you've given up the habit.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 11 April 2003 06:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The funniest thing is that's not even a satire; people like that actually exist.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 11 April 2003 09:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

six years pass...

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"i call it 'television' because 't.v.' is a nickname and nicknames are for friends and television... is NO friend of mine"

― juliette brioche (elmo argonaut), Monday, July 6, 2009 9:40 PM (1 hour ago)

Is that because television can't dance?

― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Monday, July 6, 2009 9:40 PM (1 hour ago)

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The tv can't dance! My inner three-year-old thinks this somewhat nonsensical explanation is truly delightful!

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's a somewhat oblique Genesis reference?

sad-ass Gen Y fantasist (jaymc), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god i love tv so much (television, not transvestitism, although that's good too)

mollie sugban (get bent), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought it was a "safety dance" reference!

mollie sugban (get bent), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, that makes more sense!

sad-ass Gen Y fantasist (jaymc), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Everybody look at yr pants

bro down syndrome (Trayce), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

sisterhood of the traveling pants ;_;

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"i call it 'television' because 't.v.' is a nickname and nicknames are for friends and television... is NO friend of mine"

XD although you forgot the subtle but crucial lower lip quiver.

EDB, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Man this thread went in a weird direction.

bro down syndrome (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Not owning a TV is only acceptable if you can honestly say you literally watch NO TV and aren't watching The Wire and Gilmore Girls and shit on your laptop. Otherwise it's OMG FRONTING for sure.

bENBBag (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

technically i don't own a TV and for a period last year i didn't have one at all. not that i was trying to front on some "i am better than other people" tip, it was just a thing - i just concentrated on listening to music and reading when i got home. then a friend insisted i take his on extended loan!

old chisel (haitch), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

What does the SEX MIX of "I Can't Dance" sound like?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

if it's anything like the sex mix of 'relax' by frankie goes to hollywood, it's probably amazing.

old chisel (haitch), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link

One of my friends, a PhD student, has just started dating another PhD student, who not only does not own a television, but additionally is of the opinion that all Popular Culture is "a waste of time" and does that eye-rolling thing if she finds herself in a group of people who are trying to have a discussion about it. Apparently though spending 12 hours a day sitting in a library reading Renaissance literature and criticism on Renaissance literature is a completely worthwhile and valid use of one's time. I will be pleased when he stops dating this cultural pygmy.

ears are wounds, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link

as any fule kno, people during the renaissance were all wtfomg about the printing press, which is basically like being against tv.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i have no tv and it's frustrating when major news events happen. otherwise i am mostly ok with catching up on things online later, bc that's pretty much what i did wheni had a tv anyway.
also i miss watching martha stewart in the mornings.

tehresa, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 10:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't stopped consuming popular culture even though I haven't had a TV set for years. I atill read comics, and go to the cinema, and watch movies on video with friends. I just didn't care much for the stuff on TV. Game shows and sports contests don't interest me, and I find most reality TV shows are horrific, because I can't bear to watch people being humiliated. I prefer to read news from the newspaper, as they are less condensed and offer more background info. Fictional TV series are okay, but these days it feels like most TV series have these long, multi-episode (or even multi-year) arcs that require you to follow the series week after week after week. I can't be arsed to do that! I preferred the days when most TV series had self-contained episodes, and you could just watch them once in a while without missing that much.

But the worst thing about TV, at least to me, was how easily it can become the mental equivalent of comfort food. It's too easy to just sit in front of the box and watch whatever's on for hours (even if it's a show you don't much care about), because doing something else would require a bit of physical or mental effort, and you can't bother to do that, because watching TV is just so much easier. I don't think cinema or comics or other popular culture work quite the same way as brain junk food.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I can see how going to watch a two and half movie about robots and superheroes is a bit more substantial.

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

two and a half hour? star? men?

My Slow Descent into Assholism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

pint, surely

c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link

The only thing that really bothers me about not having a telly is you realise just how much of common office chatter seems to revolve around it. It's kind of the first thing people will say to one another "Oh, did you see that thing on TV last night..." and then you kind of just look blank. (Ditto many ILX threads of late.)

I guess I'm lucky that I work in an office where music chatter is accepted as a valid substitute and our equivalent here is "What gigs/clubs did you go to last weekend?" I'm really grateful for that.

Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I can see how going to watch a two and half movie about robots and superheroes is a bit more substantial.

I'm not saying it's more substantial, but I don't watch movies every day for hours.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

you don't have to watch tv for two hours a day you appalling elitist dick

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Now now, let's play nice, boys

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a tv in the flat (not mine), which i used the hell out of during wimbledon, but other than sports i really don't watch it at all. the stuff i'd enjoy tend to be series like lost or the west wing back in the day, and i always lose track after missing a couple of episodes.

i really don't understand those people who just turn the tv on in the background and watch whatever's on, regardless. why, when you can consumer whatever culture you want to at whatever time you need to, would you be so passive about it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Movies usually require some effort, you have pick a movie, go to the cinema or a rental store, and when the movie is over you don't usually watch another movie right after. Also, there's a social aspect involved: you can chat with your friends before the movie, and analyze it afterwards. Whereas with TV you can just sit there all by yourself and watch it for hours in a row.

(xxx-post)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Watching a film with someone else = DUD

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless you're ripping the piss out of it

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

you don't have to watch tv for two hours a day you appalling elitist dick

Of course you don't have to, but at least in my case it still happened quite often. I'm not sure why it's elitist to explain why I didn't think TV was good for me.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

coz of all this elitist (and covertly homophobic) passive/active dichotomy business.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't owned a television in over ten years, but I did get a projector early this year. Being able to watch movies on the side of a wall (or on the side of my garage) has improved things so much that I can't see ever getting a dedicated TV now.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

i have don't even owned a tv since the mid 90s but i've been dreaming about getting a sound bar or something for my laptop

j., Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

Second that projector motion
The only way to watch ghost in the shell at home

calstars, Saturday, 22 September 2018 02:08 (five years ago) link


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