The VERY FIRST companion was Susan, who was the doctor's DAUGHTER? No? She was interesting, it being 1963 and therefore pre- pop, let alone pre-Kate Millett: cuz she was SUPER-CLEVER, and the earth-boys were baffled and threatened and intrigued by this. But I don't remember her to look at since (a) B/W episodes never repeated
I remember the surviving B/W episodes being shown on UK Gold when UK Gold first started, in the early 90s. I think Susan told everyone that she was the doctor's granddaughter, but this might just have been a ploy to explain why he was her guardian to boring Earth people.
My favourite Doctor Who related thing is probably Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, a Douglas Adams novel put together from late-70s Doctor Who scripts that were never broadcast. (as was the third Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy book)
― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
Exquisite. Simply... exquisite.
Tico - The BRANE OF MORBIUS should only be attempted after a couple of cans of RELAXANT in my opinion cos it is very silly. Also you will be annoyed by the rubbish assistant who falls over a lot. The priestesses are brilliant. But yes I am up for DOCTOR ACTION.
Secret flame! Secret fire!
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
Also the invention of real actual computers was catastrophic for Dr Who cos they insist on using them and seeing Z80 graphics on futuristic screens is more horrible than any rubber monster. Castrovalva has a particularly poor eg of this.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link
It is vvv amusing in Castrovalva when they are reading up on ZERO CO-ORDINATES on what looks like a primitive Teletext reader. I do not like the assistants there cos one of them IIRC tried to SHUN K-9. Bah humbug.
K-9 did a STERLING job in the Sun Makers.
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
X = reason why someone (who generally does not like Genre of which X is example) started to like Genre
Typical nerd response:
X = RUBBISH!!!
I hate nerds.
― kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
This leads us to a question I asked Mrs Tico Tico last night - why exactly was Beryl Reid famous again?
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link
What I am trying to say is that for some people (including HSA) the rubber suits and stupid aliens were a turn-off, which distracted him from being able to appreciate the clever plots and interesting concepts which made Dr. Who so fantastic. Castrovalva had no rubbish monsters, but it did have an amazing concept.
So you get all these nerds going "My appreciation of Dr. Who is superior because I can look past the rubbish rubber monsters" (or even "I *like* the rubbish rubber monsters") which totally disregards the point that it is the concept and plots and writing which makes Dr. Who a cut above the usual rubber monster sci fi rubbish.
― kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
Mostly because he could do the thing that still sets great Dr. Who stories apart: a fairly stable system which suddenly has a relentless resourceful force of chaos rampaging through it.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link
I am a nerd, but I wasn't trying to pull a move of 'oh no that's not part of the canon' or 'oh no that's not obscure enough' - Castrovalva is highly regarded among Dr Who fans I've discovered, but that regard baffles me a bit.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:56 (twenty years ago) link
spplutter, I am glad in the US Doctor Who never caught on w/ the fanboy community WHAT??
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link
I have not been to that many conventions, but at the ones I've been to, the Doctor Who presence was miniscule compared to Star Trek, Star Wars, anime, etc.
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
Did anyone* see the Cruise of the Gods one off drama on telly this past Christmas. A bit sappy, but funny stuff and well observed, obviously from 1st hand experience.
* these people did http://www.delgados.co.uk/dailydiary_1201.htm
― Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 15:05 (twenty years ago) link
if you watch carefully at the end, when Morbius falls off the cliff his claw falls off, revealing the act-or's hand underneath.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
As for Dr Who, I liked it as a kid and stopped watching soon after Tom Baker left, and have hardly looked back since. I watched the one off filmed special and thought it was utterly misjudged, same as everyone else.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:01 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link
This is the best one sentence description of Dr. Who ever.
I heart Dr. Who. But growing up I generally preferred UK SF TV (Dr. Who, and all the Gerry Anderson shows) to the tedious American ones.
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:12 (twenty years ago) link
It is utterly hilarious - if you've ever seen the Rowley Birkin QC drunk character from the Fast Show, then that's what it was like. Dear old Tom rambling away with stories that had bugger all to do with the episodes he was supposed to talk about (eg: "ah! Well, now, I don't recall a thing about this story, but I do know there was a delightful barmaid at the lovely little pub nearby. Smashing").
Towards the shows end he got all maudlin when he went over the fact that apart from a couple of guest spots on things, he's never really been succesful since. It was all rather sad.
Great viewing if you can find it, I wish I could remember the name of the thing.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:08 (twenty years ago) link
Actually it *did* look rather ph33rs0m3 cos from the blurb on the back they seem to be taking over the world by controlling MANNEQUINS THE WORLD OVER. Arrrgh!
Why did I not steal this video? It is because I am a FULE. Also I forgot my shopping bags. Groo.
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:21 (twenty years ago) link
However, I've never seen it, except for the made-for-TV movie.
If I were to start, -where- should I start, and is it on DVD?
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:25 (twenty years ago) link
ignore the 2 doctors and the varos one
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:48 (twenty years ago) link
oh no! they are PUSHING THEIR WAY THRU BRACKEN!! oh NOOOOO!!
if i wasn't sitting down already i wd need to
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:51 (twenty years ago) link
I can't remember how the lowly superstar window dresser managed to make her come to life though. Wasn't she a cursed princess or something?
Tico I would love to borrow the episode. I sense it is something that should be watched under AMBIENT LIGHTING and clutching teddy bear/blanket/bottle of GIN, yes?
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:12 (twenty years ago) link
a great Dr Who thread would be S/D Minor Characters In 3rd Doctor Stories Who Exist Only To Get Killed At the Beginning.
Search: Pigbin Josh (eh, is he the one from Spearhead From Space? or is he from Claws Of Axos?)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:14 (twenty years ago) link
also it was based on the legend of pigpygmalion
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:27 (twenty years ago) link
yes, it is total classic. I love the bit where he looks at his ex-wife on the screen and says "Oh, that's Lalla! I remember... we became very close".
apparently the catchphrase in Tom Baker's autobiography is "we had the most terrible fun... and then I never saw them again".
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 23 June 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 23 June 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 4 October 2003 03:46 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 4 October 2003 07:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Saturday, 4 October 2003 07:57 (twenty years ago) link
good news, we've just discovered a potentially unlimited source of Stahlman's Gas
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26134722-100-worlds-first-tunnel-to-a-magma-chamber-could-unleash-unlimited-energy/
in other words, we are not in any way, shape, or form in the Darkest Timeline
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:02 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIBfUAF9otg
― MaresNest, Thursday, 11 January 2024 23:14 (three months ago) link
This ruled
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 11 January 2024 23:28 (three months ago) link