http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/21/ending-the-war-on-pot-is-obama-s-last-chance-for-a-legacy.html
― Mordy , Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
nick gillespie may be a libertarian asshole, but he does have a point for once
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
sadly i don't see it happening (re: gillespie's suggestion). obama made some cool comments, that's wonderful, but the realities of enforcement and the liklihood that this would happen are pretty slim, sadly. also, even after he made those promising comments, the next paragraph in that interview he just offers the slippery slope counter-argument. it'd be nice if there was some real action to come from his comments.
― marcos, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
it'd be nice if there was some real action for sale at the gas station and 711. some day we'll stop being puritans about people getting high and this prohibition episode will be regarded as a sad joke
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
feel like legalisation of cannabis is really inconsequential vs the real pressing need to decriminalize possession of hard drugs and the end of the war on drug addicts. probably stating the obvious.
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
i disagree. i think they're separate issues + that legalizing cannabis will alone make a huge immediate + positive impact on our legal system and our communities. it could be decriminalize hard drug possession will also have a huge impact, but i see no reason to believe it'll eclipse the former.
― Mordy , Wednesday, 22 January 2014 22:03 (ten years ago) link
if you have an MBA and work on wall street and you're caught with coke, you should get your balls cut off and shoved in your mouth. everything else should be legal for everyone else
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
?
― calstars, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link
cocaine is not a good drug for powerful people with subzero morality
http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-cocaine-stories-2012-7?op=1
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 23 January 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
good for morning rage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Bqob-weFk#t=226
― Mordy , Thursday, 23 January 2014 13:32 (ten years ago) link
the best part is at the end when nancy claims that she doesn't let her husband drink diet coke out of the can bc it's a bad influence on their kids! poor husband :(
― Mordy , Thursday, 23 January 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link
how can she let her kids see her with scary ass make-up and hair like that?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 23 January 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link
she always looks as if she's just gotten a whiff of excrement
― condo associations are people my friend (will), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
― UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link
^ winning here
uk cop humour otm
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link
my mom just watched that documentary about the girl w/ seizures whose parents treat w/ pot (charlotte's web iirc?) and now she's super politically charged = gung ho about cannabis politics. first she wanted to start clandestinely growing but i put the kibosh on that and pushed her in the direction of norml as a more legally safe way of protesting the unjust laws that keep ppl from getting medical relief.
― Mordy , Thursday, 23 January 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
aw
― how's life, Thursday, 23 January 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
first she wanted to start clandestinely growing but i put the kibosh on that
missed opportunity imo
― the late great, Thursday, 23 January 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
http://marplenewtown.patch.com/groups/elections/p/legalize-marijuana-dem-candidate-for-pa-governor-says-marplenewtown
Legalizing marijuana is the right thing to do for Pennsylvania for reasons of justice and state finances, according to one Democratic candidate for governor.And, according to John Hanger, it is also a key to the Democratic party’s political aspirations in the commonwealth this November.“This issue is moving and Democrats better get on board or we’ll lose this election to Tom Corbett because people will not come out and vote,” Hanger said Wednesday night at Lehigh University in Bethlehem. “We must expand the voting population.”
And, according to John Hanger, it is also a key to the Democratic party’s political aspirations in the commonwealth this November.
“This issue is moving and Democrats better get on board or we’ll lose this election to Tom Corbett because people will not come out and vote,” Hanger said Wednesday night at Lehigh University in Bethlehem. “We must expand the voting population.”
― Mordy , Friday, 24 January 2014 01:20 (ten years ago) link
he's otm i'll so get out the vote for this dude if legalization is on the menu
I think it's realistic to assume that legalization of pot will bring in its wake a different set of problems than the set caused by the war on (some) drugs, but imo at least they'll be the right set of problems, because their solutions will make 100x more sense than the present system of financing violent drug cartels, engaging in mass imprisonment, and corrupting police through property confiscations. The new problems will just be the more obvious ones caused by overuse among a limited set of people who would overuse drugs anyway.
― Aimless, Friday, 24 January 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
we know that any new problems will still be on a much, much smaller scale than alcohol abuse
― Mordy , Friday, 24 January 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link
afaict the research indicates that in states where cannabis is semi-legalized it's replacing alcohol among a certain group of people and as a result both DUIs and disorderly / violent conduct has gone down slightly
did I get the wrong impression?
― the late great, Friday, 24 January 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
I'd be really interested in seeing how that pans out numbers-wise. I live in a small town in Washington with a disproportionate amount of college students and lots of insane drunken antics, including plenty of serious shit like people falling out of buildings, assaults, tazings, and so on. I'm curious if there will be a noticeable drop in egregious drunken problems or if those people would get drunk and do dumb shit anyway.
I kept hearing unsubstantiated rumors this fall that there were some number of students who went to the ER or otherwise freaked out after smoking concentrates and getting way too high, which everyone seems to realize is much better than drinking a bottle of everclear and dying.
― joygoat, Friday, 24 January 2014 06:12 (ten years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/25/justice/california-teacher-pot-arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
sigh. here's something for nancy grace to jerk off to, i guess.
― how's life, Saturday, 25 January 2014 12:33 (ten years ago) link
Badger chose not to speak to arresting officers
on wisconsin!
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 25 January 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link
one thing i'm curious to know/see is how pain contracts are managed in CO/WA now. as it is right now, patients on pain contracts have to get routine drug testing, and any illicit drugs that turn up in their u-tox are grounds for termination of the contract (ie - no more opiates). anecdotally, i know of quite a few patients that have had their contracts terminated (or been fired from suboxone/methadone clinics) for being positive for MJ. which is a bummer, since most of them were pretty obviously using MJ to self-medicate.
― gbx, Saturday, 25 January 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
Giving people a psychoactive drug without telling them what you're doing is pretty nasty behavior, imo. Doesn't matter what drug we're talking about.
― Aimless, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/01/24/the-president-forgets-to-lie-about-marijuana-and-prohibitionists-are-outraged/
― Mordy , Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link
http://www.mademan.com/dr-lester-grinspoon-on-david-brooks-weed-been-there-done-that/
― Mordy , Sunday, 26 January 2014 06:29 (ten years ago) link
i haven't watched this yet but it has been recommended to me:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3IMfIQ_K6U
― Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
not gonna bother linking Mo Dowd's column on the Colorado pot B&B that the proprietress says wants to attract "comedians and adult film entertainers." Lady, if you think those are the 'better people,' you are HIGH.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if obama is going to mention legalization (or decriminalization, or at least reclassification) tmmrw nite
― Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
He won't
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 January 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
state of the doobin'
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 27 January 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
i'm thinking about investing in some publicly traded mj companies
― Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-obama-should-back-drug-sentencing-reform-in-the-state-of-the-union/283302/
― Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
The most cynical part of me is whispering in my ear that the war on drugs has finished the work it was designed for, acting as a weapon against the poor and minorities, with which the authorities could crush any lingering aspirations from the social justice movements of 1950-1980. Now that things are back under control, it's time to sell society a new anodyne drug and make some eye-popping profits at the same time. Something along the lines of the British opium trade out of India into China.
Somebody slap me, ok.
― Aimless, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
I disagree w/ that analysis. But even if it were true, certainly the value of not jailing citizens for possession of marijuana is a worthwhile consequence of ending the war on drugs, even if there are ulterior motivations.
― Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
I guess I see it as the people who make or will make money from selling weed finally out-influencing the people who make money from locking people up
― joygoat, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
i hope you're right about that, but i still get google alerts about CCA almost every day, sometimes stock reports :(
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
xp - I agree that ending the prohibition on mj is far, far better than keeping it in place. I do wonder how the powerful will try to bend it to their advantage, bcz maneuvering themselves into positions of advantage is what they do.
― Aimless, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/feb/20/marijuana-high-and-low/
― Mordy , Friday, 31 January 2014 05:21 (ten years ago) link
Hemp, Inc., (OTC:HEMP) America's first all-industrial hemp public company, applauds the U.S. House of Representatives for legalizing the cultivation of hemp. For the first time in decades, the Federal government is allowing farmers to cultivate hemp. As of Wednesday, January 29, 2014, pursuant to the passage of the farm bill, the cultivation of industrial hemp is legal on a Federal level and is clearing the way for industrial hemp pilot programs in states such as Colorado, Washington, California, Kentucky, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, Vermont and West Virginia, where growing the plant is legal.
The bill was originally introduced as an amendment by Representatives Jared Polis (D-CO), Thomas Massie (R-KY) and Earl Blumenauer (D-OR). The provision allows universities, and now also state departments of agriculture, to grow hemp for academic or agricultural research purposes; however, it only applies to states where industrial hemp farming is already legal under state law.
Senator Mitch McConnell, who worked to retain and strengthen the provision, was the lead negotiator in getting hemp included on the Farm Bill was quoted, "We are laying the groundwork for a new commodity market for Kentucky farmers."
Bruce Perlowin, CEO of Hemp, Inc. said, "I said it before and I'll say it again... these are monumental steps for the industry. What we are all trying to get people to understand is that this will finally unlock a clean 'American Industrial Revolution' that will not only be economically sound, but environmentally advantageous." Soon companies like Hemp, Inc. (OTC:HEMP) will not have to import their hemp fabrics, hemp seeds, hemp hearts and hemp hurd for their hemp products.
According to the Associated Press article, written by Kristen Wyatt, "The plant's return to legitimacy could clear the way for U.S. farmers to compete in an industry currently dominated by China. Even though it hasn't been grown in the U.S., the country is one of the fastest-growing hemp markets.
"In 2011, the U.S. imported $11.5 million worth of legal hemp products, up from $1.4 million in 2000. Most of that growth was seen in hemp seed and hemp oil, which finds its way into granola bars and other products." Other estimates place the U.S. 2013 hemp sales at half a billion dollars ($500 million).
Hemp has thousands of uses. From rope and clothing, to soap and lotions and nutritional additives in everything from milk to cooking oil. Presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp before the Federal government banned the plant in its anti-drug efforts through the 1970 Controlled Substances Act. According to the aforementioned article, it wasn't until 1999 that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) issued a hemp permit for an experimental plot in Hawaii on a quarter acre of land.
Now the passing of the farm bill is a big first step towards allowing American farmers to once again grow industrial hemp, and giving Hemp, Inc. enormous new economic opportunities.
― Mordy , Thursday, 6 February 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
"hemp hurd"???
great news, about time, etc.
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 February 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vocativ.com/02-2014/grow-houses-holy-land/
― Mordy , Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
lol i have some money in HEMP and it went up 4.20% today
― Mordy , Thursday, 13 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
lol
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 February 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link
http://www.capitalgazette.com/blogs/under_the_dome/annapolis-police-chief-cites-hoax-story-in-opposition-to-marijuana/article_97c304e5-b485-5981-9197-9b5f9f5f97e7.html
*dies*
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― °ㅇo ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link