Bitcoins

like you literally have no idea what the costs associated with moving money around the world are, you should start by admiting that, then try to build an argument from there

can't you guys see that this bitcoin beef is tearing us apart

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jan/30/africans-pay-most-send-money

average cost of remittance paid btw Tanzania and Kenya is 22%. But no problem, the established players in that market will just lower their fees to 3% to compete. NBD.

I could send you any amount of bitcoin that I owned (for the record, I own none), right now, at no cost, anywhere in the world, instantaneously.

don't you have to 'tip' someone to verify though

Maybe you should go set up a service in Tanzania and Kenya. Charge like 15% -- you'd undercut the competition and make a killing. I'm sure it barely costs anything to start such an operation, you just need computers so you can send money back and forth.

average cost of remittance paid btw Tanzania and Kenya is 22%. But no problem, the established players in that market will just lower their fees to 3% to compete. NBD.

― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:42 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like i already totally explained upthread bitcoin is not competing with that, its competing with the other internet based services, i mean its not competing with anything at all right now, its non functional, paypal et al work

And all I ever said that it was possible that it could be competitive in the future.

im sure there are already millions of people all over the world getting remittance via the net and avoiding those fee but that requires the infrastructure that bitcoin also requites

they don't get remittances "via the net" they get them via a service via the net, a service that requires a lot more infrastructure to do a transfer than bitcoin does

im sure there are people who have the internet and computers who are taking advantage of internet service like paypal in just the same way you or i would

we are going in circles here

soon via the penetration of smart phones thn number of people who can do that will be pretty much all of them, there wont be any storefront money wirer nessisary

circles round the coin

poll which one of you is being trolled rn

hurting owns bitcoins is my working theory

Total speculation, but I'd say there's at least a 50/50 chance Bitcoin (or another crypto-currency like it) survives in some form. I wouldn't buy Bitcoins as an investment though.

i cld see the technology of bitcoin being useful and even crypto currencies surviving in the gray/black market but its a non starter as a major consumer tool imo

I own zero bitcoins

dogecoins?

umm...with regard to dogecoins...HEY LOOK OVER THERE!

you have to throw the stick

http://lh5.ggpht.com/RuY2VEJLX2UuilVj2-xYIpv1wcvDzx_hy5zP0cX8Ize079WcEQsNggARrpguRc-TmACLo_RjnetCXNVSN51ovjrGqPWHAfgZPlbn%3Ds630

the ole hurting gives a TED talk while lagoon heckles from the back row routine

http://ariannasimpson.com/post/74400025051/this-is-what-its-like-to-be-a-woman-at-a-bitcoin

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-01-27/men-tied-to-silk-road-bitcoin-exchange-subject-of-u-dot-s-dot-charges

Kind of surprised Bharara went after this guy, seems like a stretch. Maybe he wants to press him for info.

http://business.time.com/2014/01/27/bitinstant-ceo-charlie-shrem-arrested-for-alleged-money-laundering/

Russia Bans Bitcoin

The Central Bank of Russia reiterated that the official currency is the Ruble, and that it considers Bitcoin a money surrogate. That’s why the cryptocurrency should be aboided

Interesting. Mt. Gox now claiming that the problems that took it offline are related to a flaw in the Bitcoin protocol itself:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/10/bitcoin-exchange-struggles/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

The ultimate win for the future is for people to just stop using currency in general and everyone just gets food and shelter and things and we throw away our wealth hoarding consumerist culture - like in Star Trek

Anyway I'm not sure why people think bitcoin is really any different than something like frequent flyer miles or something - anything can have value right? Havent people used things like shells for currency? Money is an idea we all believe in - but more and more it seems like technology is helping some people hoard more and more of it

This is the best (somewhat technical) explanation of what's going on that I've been able to find:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x93tf/some_irc_chatter_about_what_is_going_on_at_mtgox/cf99yac

Things are getting interesting in Bitcoinland:

http://www.coindesk.com/massive-concerted-attack-launched-bitcoin-exchanges/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29

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John Law simply shrugs his shoulders and buys more digicoins with his morning paper.

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How many digicoins is your morning paper worth?

anyone into dogecoins?

good domain name for magic the gathering soon to be available

http://i.imgur.com/kvzCnG8.jpg

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20140225&id=17378845&ocid=ansmony11

probably a good time to buy bitcoin right now really

it's never a bad time to buy bitcoins

iiiinteresting

https://blockchain.info/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew

I'm surprised it bounced back as much as it has -- it was as low as $400 last night, now it's at $517.

frogbs, explain?

it appears that 782,556 BTC just went through some wallet which means a ton of BTC (like, 3-4% of all that could ever exist) is being tumbled (laundered) as we speak

it's never a bad time to buy bitcoins

― iatee, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:27 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

it appears that 782,556 BTC just went through some wallet which means a ton of BTC (like, 3-4% of all that could ever exist) is being tumbled (laundered) as we speak

― frogbs, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:39 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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*It would also be poetic if a genius embezzler stole 744,000 Bitcoins that, through his own theft, were reduced to utter worthlessness.

was wondering what happens to the value once all of the bitcoins are stolen

simply supply and demand if the supply goes to zero the price approaches infinity

New message up:

Dear MtGox Customers,

In the event of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.

Best regards,
MtGox Team

https://www.mtgox.com

In the event of recent news reports

Dear MtGox Customers,

Haha we got yr money, sucks to be you.

Best regards,
MtGox Team