Really Europe is about eight million miles ahead of us, in this arena. There are multiple copper-only IUD avail in England, and even more in Belgium where the inventor of the GyneFix lives. Also I think the non-hormonal ones last longer, I've been seeing ten years as a ballpark. Which is like forever in terms of fertility when you're already in yr 30s, basically.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
awww...im just messin'. contraception does make me queasy though.
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
It's repugnant to me that American women are going overseas and paying the $500 insertion/doctor's fee out of pocket rather than limit themselves to USian options (and either no healthcare or plans that don't cover fertility planning anyway, which is...beyond, just beyond).
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
everything said above is true. Mirena is low-hormone and most women like it for the period control. The copper kind has no hormone.
I have had no children and it hurt like hell when it was inserted. The contraction I felt I thought could be similar to birth contractions. It felt like a hand reached inside me and balled up all my lady parts. But that only lasted for about 20 seconds and then I felt like I had been kicked in the nuts for the rest of the day. (I love how all of my descriptions of pain are based on things I've never actually felt). Fine the next day, not bleeding, nada.
My insurance covered it but I noticed on the bill it was $500-something for the device and $500-something for the insertion. My doctor said I could keep it for 5 years.
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Susan, did the doc prescribe (or recommend) any kind of muscle relaxant or painkillers? I mean hit me with some Klonopin or I'm coming in on Valium.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
She gave me a "cervix softener" to take six hours beforehand which was supposed to help. Besides that, she just recommended ibuprofen. I was much more anxious about it than I should have been. A few moments for five years of no worries is a good trade-off.
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i agree that this doesn't sound SO bad, but compare to no-scalpel vasectomyread hereit involves some freezing and some pinching.
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
ok, and some cauterizing
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Laurel this is OT but is Klonopin better than valium in your opinion. The last time I took valium was probably 6 years ago and it felt GOOD but my doc recently prescribed Klonopin for panic attacks and it makes me feel like shite.
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I love klonipin over xanax, valium and atavin.
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
what dose?
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
teensy, can't even remember. Mine is just mild anxiety though. I didn't really like valium b/c it made me feel stoned. Klonpin just takes the edge off. Isn't ativan more fast-acting and better for attacks?
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
but i like the stoned
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I have never taken either/any. I used to have a friend who was prescribed Klonopin for anxiety attacks and he was a big person but whatever dose his doc recommended, it made him S-P-A-C-E-Y. Like, scarily spacey. Like high and about to pass out. I would not like to be that way.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
when my bf was researching IUDs for me, he read some stuff about how even the non-hormonal ones (copper) can have weird side effects, like decreased libido (anecdotal evidence). the copper ones can also cause severe period pain/heavier periods.
― your ass is (Rubyredd), Thursday, 25 September 2008 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link
They do say that about heavier periods, mine's quite light so that wouldn't be a big concern for me. More importantly some people are allergic to COPPER -- and I'm not sure if you'd be likely to know that before going in. You could see an allergist, I guess. Or eat a penny.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Read that as eat a pussy, had to come back and re-read. Nice!
― too lazy to log back in (unregistered), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
A fair alternative to contraception, but not precisely interchangeable.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
It all comes back to C on Ts
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
That worked out really well for you, did it?
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I have had a Paragard IUD for two years (copper non-hormonal) and I fucking love it.
Pretty much everything Laurel has said in answer to people's IUD questions is 100% OTM. The having to have had babies first thing is BS and pisses me off that the Mirena commercial says that. Yes, nuliparous women are more likely to expel but the risk of expulsion is not that much greater. The my cramps hurt more for about 6 months after insertion and have now leveled off but I do get cramps mid-cycle which I've never done before. It's nothing that some Advil can't solve.
Re insertion: I didn't know I was going to have one inserted until about an hour before my procedure. My NP gave me 800 mg ibuprofen and made me wait 30 mins. I did get a cervical anesthetic which def helped some. It still hurt as hell but as Susan said it was very quick and TOTALLY worth it.
I haven't spent a single second thinking about BC in over two years (my own - I think about others for a living lol) and the whole thing cost me $50 thanks to my insurance.
I <3 my IUD.
― Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
hey ENBB, what's your job?
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
no option for "anal only"?
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 26 September 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
nuliparous
I love this word.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 26 September 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously (XP)
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Saturday, 27 September 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, why not just find a nice bottom and settle down then? way less hassle.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 27 September 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Roxy - I'm in my last semester of MA program in Women's Health and I'm concentrating in sexual and reproductive health of young women. I used to work in a family planning clinic and am now interning at an organization that provides sex ed program TA and runs support programs for pregnant and parenting teens.
What about you?
― Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Saturday, 27 September 2008 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link
That's awesome! I'm no longer in the field, but I worked as assistant director of a women's clinic from 2000-2005. Best job I ever had.
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 September 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
jw, "anal" is a situation that requires no contraception, not a mode of contraception itself
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 September 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
haha "anal"
i meant "anal only"
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 September 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 28 September 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I always thought it would be cool if somehow IUDs came in custom shapes and so when you got an x-ray it would be 'whoa cool 45-adapter in your inguinal region.'
― Abbott, Monday, 29 September 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link
tell that to millions of apocryphal Catholic teenage girls
― john della boscaoila (sic), Monday, 29 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost, haha. I think I'd opt for a pair of crossed knitting needles.
― Peanuts taste like peanut butter (Susan), Monday, 29 September 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i would have a cupcake
― lil yawne (harbl), Monday, 29 September 2008 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link
thats probably another reason they do it! xxpost
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 29 September 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Abbots: Awesome only if the custom-shaped IUD could be scientificologically beamed into my uterus rather than inserted the normal way.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Monday, 29 September 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, therein lies the rub: getting a rad shape into one's cervix. Unlikely.
― Abbott, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
dudes my obgyn showed me on an ultrasound that i have an ovary shaped like a heart
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 29 September 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
that was my TMI of the day
That's sweet!
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 29 September 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Withdrawal rockin the bronze wooo!!
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 29 September 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Like a real heart or a drawing of a heart?
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it looked like this:
http://media.bigoo.ws/content/glitter/cartoon/cartoon_267.gif
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 29 September 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
those are future babbies hiding coming out of it
sunny, yr somethin special.
wonder who voted for the patch
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link
WOW, AWESOME
― tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i voted for the pill fwiw, not sure my vote shd count but it's what my gf does, she had a uterine tumour at 16 and has had to have been on it since for health reasons
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
how the fuck did the sponge get zerothis is about as bad as the coaches poll on ILNFL
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link