I'm looking forward to someone building a crazy mill deck around Mill God + Mnemonic Walls + Triton Tactics + Hidden Strings
― Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Friday, 24 January 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
As someone at my LGS noticed, Pheanx + Consuming Aberration are BFFs
― frogbs, Friday, 24 January 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
current modern deck, since lamp was asking about modern the other dayhttp://i.imgur.com/0Zi1QE5.jpg
pretty happy with it so far, i think the cryptic command build is probably fine too but i want 4 valakut 3-4 omen in any version of the deck i play right now
― ciderpress, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
Got in 380 pre-release kits (which is 100 more than I need, oops) and assorted goodies to go along with it. Kinda wish I could sleep at my office tonight, I suddenly don't trust the alarm.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 31 January 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link
the store i play at just sells off the extra kits afterwards, since they have 6 booster packs worth of cards in them and thus are presumably worth about that much. sometimes they do another event with extra ones the following weekend too.
there's inevitably one color that runs out before the others, but which one it is seems to vary not only from set to set but from store to store as well. around here it's usually blue.
― ciderpress, Friday, 31 January 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
yeah ime people tend to really like the guild packs and enjoy having events with them so it shouldn't be a problem to get rid of the extra 100. store here also sell them for what the charge for the prerelease
― Lamp, Friday, 31 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
pretty weird shit going on here, someone found a promo from an unknown/not-yet-announced product in their prerelease kithttp://i.imgur.com/Byl2JQz.jpg
looks pretty real and rk post has confirmed that it's his art
― ciderpress, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
its probably just the summer multiplayer supplemental product, but 210 cards is a lot for one of those and they haven't had prerelease-style promos for them before.
― ciderpress, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah the effect makes no sense if it's not multiplayer
― iatee, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
maybe most of those cards are reprints?
― frogbs, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link
cool ability though
― frogbs, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
further weirdness - the card had a phone number printed on the back, people called it and it was like a numbers station style thing with a ciphered message thats been decoded to:
Cogwork Librarian (4)Artifact Creature - ConstructDraft Cogwork Librarian face up. As you draft a card you may draft an additional card from that booster pack. If you do, put Cogwork Librarian into that booster pack.3/3
so looks like some sort of multiplayer draft format
― ciderpress, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
ha
― iatee, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link
Haha that's awesome. I'm ready for regular Magic to absorb that card into the game, a la Barren Glory.
― Vinnie, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
dial 1-425-204-2672 you can hear it yourself
― frogbs, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
kinda seems like the accidental spoiling of Rootborn Defenses last year wound up getting a lot of people excited and thus WoTC maybe thought "we should do something like that on purpose"
― frogbs, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link
I could have sworn they did this before, a planned "accidental" spoiling
― Vinnie, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Man, there's some really cool things they could do in this vein. A card that lets you see or steal or restrict your opponent's draft picks, maybe
― Vinnie, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
eh that actually gets into ante-zone 'no you don't get to pick the voice you just opened -> (quits magic)'
― iatee, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
they did ARG marketing stuff leading up to Innistrad but that's the only time in the past they've done anything like this really.
― ciderpress, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
xp Ah yeah, good point. Some people are suggesting it will be sold as more of a set to be cube drafted with rather than boosters, in which case it would be fine.
― Vinnie, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah it makes sense that a cube product would involve great-but-not-tournament-sanctioned cards, as any reprints of real-expensive-cards is gonna create some problems
― iatee, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
like even a power cube w/ gold borders
― iatee, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link
Retraction Helix is surprisingly good in this format - not only because bounce is better in this format than average, but also because it triggers heroic and inspired at once
― frogbs, Sunday, 2 February 2014 07:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah highlight of the prerelease for me was doing all sorts of crazy tricks with that card
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 February 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
yep a pretty high % of my wins were due to having two in my first pre
― iatee, Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
the best one was in a situation where i knew my top card of deck was a helix from scrying and my opponent had one large guy holding off my team
went attack with team, flash in breaching hippocamp before blocks untapping pain seer, put the helix into my hand, helix pain seer to bounce the blocker
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
Finally made it to a prerelease this morning and went 3-0 with a BW deck with double Fate Unraveler, Eater of Hope, Ashen Rider, Sentry, Spiteful Returned, double Bile Blight, plus several other removal spells. Probably the best sealed deck I've ever had.
― Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Sunday, 2 February 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Deathrite Shaman now banned in Modern, Nactal and Bitterblossom unbanned
― frogbs, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:17 (ten years ago) link
reasonable change imo. big picture result is that the format speeds up a bit, as nacatl likely brings back tier 1 zoo which pressures combo decks to build for speed again rather than resilience. gifts ungiven is probably the biggest winner on the control half of the spectrum. bitterblossom seems poorly positioned but i'm sure people will try to play it anyway.
i get to play a more combo-oriented melira pod deck again which is appealing to me, and i also enjoy zoo and gifts decks so this opens up a lot of strategies that i like but weren't good enough before. neat.
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 February 2014 07:08 (ten years ago) link
Went 3-0-1 with a very good Izzet deck at the prerelease this weekend. Tons of removal, solid creatures. Aerie Worshippers was nuts, it took a couple games on its own. I had double Retraction Helix and was hoping to get the combo with Worshippers to really annoy people, but it never happened *sulks*
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link
omg
― iatee, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
lol stupid dci.
― Lamp, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
Vinnie, those inspired cards seem very strong indeed. They need to be answered right away or they just get out of control very quickly.
The card that did the most heavy lifting for me overall was Revoke Existence. There was always a target for it, it came up in almost every game I played, and it exiled Gods in three different games.
― Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Monday, 3 February 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
4 of the people sitting around me (including myself) got Gods in the clear seeded pack. I thought everyone got one.
― frogbs, Monday, 3 February 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link
Good riddance to DRS. The thing I least liked about it was what cider touched on, that it invalidates certain strategies on its own. Cards that do that should be narrower SB cards.
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 February 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
my favorite modern deck is 4 color gifts so i have mixed feelings about the drs ban but i've been arguing with iatee about whether being so aggressive with bans is good for the formats health overall.
― Lamp, Monday, 3 February 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
I used to think that constant bans/unbans were a bad thing for any format, but recently I have started thinking that having one format like that is a cool idea. Legacy bans can put you down a ton of money, while Standard bans are offputting to new players. Modern is in that sweet spot where it's mostly longtime players playing, players who are able to keep up with a changing metagame, but the cards aren't ridiculously expensive. Honestly, the willingness to play with the banned list makes me more interested in Modern.
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
But they better keep their damn government hands off my Arcbound Ravagers
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
the cards that are ridiculously expensive are kinda saved from being bannable by virtue of being ridiculously expensive
― iatee, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
like you ban goyf and some kid who just finished his playset literally quits magic
yeah banning Deathpact only hurts the losers like me who were hording them thinking they'd hit Dark Confidant prices one day
― frogbs, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
well all investments come w/ risks and that was def the riskiest card to be investing in
― iatee, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
I used to think that constant bans/unbans were a bad thing for any format, but recently I have started thinking that having one format like that is a cool idea.
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
essentially if you write off all the fall 2011 bans as early-format fixing (they all happened within 3 months of the format's introduction, and before they started running GPs and sanctioning it for FNMs) then there's only been 4 cards banned since then, and 3 unbanned.
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 February 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
Interesting, I thought there had been more. Definitely the perception I have is that nothing is off-limits in Modern, except maybe Goyf and Confidant.
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 February 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link
i don't think those are off-limits, they're just very easy to interact with so they're unlikely to need benching
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 February 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
7 changes to the ban list in two years is a lot by any reasonable standard tho
― Lamp, Monday, 3 February 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
'i mean at least they arent banning something every three months!' is kinda just
― Lamp, Monday, 3 February 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link
this feels like the first change since nacatl/fire that's actually going to affect the format significantly more than a new set release though
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 February 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link