i kinda see the negatives more than the positives of both optionsblack - mass attack seems negligible and the generator is too slow to be that greatgreen - random board blow ups ruin any strategy with tile-based teammates, strike tile isn't that strong
― Nhex, Saturday, 25 January 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link
the level 5 generator goes down to one turn, so its way more reliable. and strike tiles really boost the mass attack.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Saturday, 25 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
I know I'm way behind you guys but I am quite pleased that I just got three OBW covers and can take mine to 30 now
― mh, Saturday, 25 January 2014 05:06 (ten years ago) link
Nice, mh.
I got my ~first~ Rag cover, ever, from a Divine Champs draw. Had to sell my fully leveled Jugs, will miss that big lug. ~tear~
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Saturday, 25 January 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link
Somehow I redeemed a Heroic token and got Invisible Woman? first four star for me, but I have no idea how I'll get more covers or level her.
― mh, Saturday, 25 January 2014 05:19 (ten years ago) link
Eventually you'll come in first in an event, duh!
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Saturday, 25 January 2014 05:30 (ten years ago) link
Last-minute rush placed me perfectly to get 3 OBW covers from the tourney. Happy. Wonder if it's better to build her 3/5/5, or 4/4/5? (I already have 5 black covers.)
― Millsner, Saturday, 25 January 2014 06:46 (ten years ago) link
Aggressive Recon (Purple) is decent, but to me the real money's in Anti-Gravity Device (Blue) for the healing + countdown delay abilities. I ended up going 4/5/4 (Purple/Blue/Black) as the covers came to me. You may consider going 3/5/5 with either, as the level 5 versions of Purple and Blue are much better than 3 or 4. http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Widow_%28Original%29
― Nhex, Saturday, 25 January 2014 07:13 (ten years ago) link
I got my first Rag and **** Wolverine covers from heroic tokens. woo. I just need Classic Magneto, Patch and Invisible Woman now. Oh and Daredevil, I guess.
I went 3/5/5 with OBW and I think that's the best build. Aggressive Recon levels raise the AP cost, and I think the lower levels are actually a bit better, since you can get to 6-8 AP sooner and more often.
― zanarkand bozo (abanana), Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Agreed on the 3/5/5 build
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link
I did 4/5/4 before I realized such things matter. Life is full of regret.
― Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link
wolvie astonishing - l85 max - 5/4/4thor - l85 - 4/4/5the good captain - l78 - 5/3/5iron man model 40 - l77 - 5/2/3hulk - l53 - 4 green/1 blackstorm classic - l52 - 5/3/5wolvie x-force - l50 - 1 red/2 yellowstorm modern - l41 - 5/5/3spidey classic - l41 - 1/3/1daken - l40 - 5/5iron man model 35 - l38 - 3/5/5ares - l38 - 4/3/5ragnarok - l37 - 2/2hawkeye modern - l33 - 5/4/3black widow original - l33 - 4/2/5black widow modern - l30 - 5/5invisible woman - l30 - 1 greenjuggernaut - l28 - 5/5punisher - l28 - 1 black/2 greenmoonstone - l25 - 4/4/5doctor doom - l25 - 2 blackmagneto now - l19 - 3 blue/1 redloki - l19 - 2/2hood - l15 - 1 yellow / 1 blackbullseye - l14 - 5/5bagman - l6 - 2 purpleyelena belova - l1 - 2 purple
― Euler, Saturday, 25 January 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
So, the rubberbanding missions are kind of broken. Just retreat or have characters die and they become easier. When you can use the super-powered Patch, you don't even need any other characters to win.
― zanarkand bozo (abanana), Saturday, 25 January 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
i was wondering if i was going nuts. the Deadly/Impossible missions ARE changing difficulty before my eyes
― Nhex, Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's annoying. THe one thing I liked about the missions was that I would have a string of at least 5 to 7 that I could just pound through and get a lot of iso.
― Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Lucked out with a purple OBW cover from a standard token, putting me at 3/3/5 for now. I'll hold out for a couple more blue covers.
― Millsner, Sunday, 26 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
Nothing like waking up to see that I've lost 150 points overnight in the PVP tournament.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Finally pulled a Punisher cover, but no room plus I have a Doom cover coming in soon.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Sunday, 26 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Does Patch look worth building up? Once they debug him, he's not going to be overwhelmingly awesome from all appearances, no?
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Monday, 27 January 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link
i think he'll still be pretty great -- just require really thoughtful play.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 27 January 2014 05:18 (ten years ago) link
Thor - 85 of 85 (max) - 5/4/4 (max)Wolverine Astonishing - 85 of 85 (max) - 5/4/4 (max)Daken - 69 of 69 (max) - 5/5 (max)ModHawk - 66 of 85 - 5/5/3 (max)IM 40 - 51 of 89 (141 max) - 4/3/2 (4 left)IM 35 - 50 of 50 (max) - 5/4/4 (max)ModStorm - 50 of 50 (max) - 5/5/3 (max)Punisher - 49 of 51 (141 max) - 0/3/2 (8 left)OG BWidow - 47 of 85 (85 max) - 3/5/5 (max)MagNow - 43 of 85 - 5/5/3 (max)Spidey - *41 of 41 (141 max) - 2/1/2 (8 left)ModBWidow - 40 of 40 (max) - 5/5 (max)Juggernaut - 40 of 40 (max) - 5/5 (max)Ragnarok - 39 of 51 (115 max) - 3/2 (7 left)Ares - *38 of 38 (85 max) - 1/0/5 (7 left)Invisible Woman - *30 of 30 (230 max) - 1/0/0 (12 left)Wolverine X-Force - *30 of 30 (230 max) - 1/0/0 (12 left)Classic Storm - 29 of 85 - 5/5/3 (max)Doc Doom - *28 of 28 (115 max) - 2/1 (7 left)Hood - *28 of 28 (141 max) - 2/0/1 (10 left)Wolverine Patch - *28 of 28 (141 max) - 2/1/0 (10 left)Cap - 27 of 85 - 4/4/5 (max)Grey BWidow - 25 of 64 (141 max) - 2/0/4 (7 left)Hulk - 24 of 64 (141 max) - 5/0/2 (6 left)Moonstone - 21 of 85 - 5/3/3 (max)Bullseye - 21 of 38 (69 max) - 1/5 (4 left)Loki - 18 of 28 (115 max) - 2/1 (7 left)Classic Mag - *18 of 18 (141 max) - 1/0/1 (11 left)Venom - 16 of 40 - 5/5 (max)Classic Hawk - 15 of 40 - 5/5 (max)Bagman - 7 of 38 (85 max) - 4/2/1 (6 left)Yelena - 1 of 40 - 5/5 (max)
3 open slots; starting to think that if they keep throwing new characters out I'm gonna be ultimately forced to buy some coins.Finally got Invisible Woman on a heroic draw so that's a complete roster short of daredevil who I assume I'll pull at the end of the current tourney. I am at #1 by about 40 points on the scotland yard run; would be great to pull the three patch covers as that gives me an excuse to not fight so hard on the next round. Not so into the punisher pvp fights; just too hard to crack the top 45. Working on primarily leveling OG Black Widow along with a handful of favorite and new guys (ares, punisher, doom, hood, patch, spidey) as I get them new covers. Then Classic Storm I guess, though I think i'm late to the game for her.
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 January 2014 06:56 (ten years ago) link
having a rough time on those scotland yard missions due to the difficulty spikes. are you getting through those final missions (lvl 230) or just ignoring them?
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 07:37 (ten years ago) link
I'm powering through them with minimal trouble honestly. OGBWidow/Thor/Wolverine with +20%Dark Avenger Damage/+3 all/+3 red and yellow buffs lets me knock out juggernaut fairly quick and then it's just about chipping away and replenishing wolverine's claw attacks and cockblocking the yellow and red matches from the ai
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 January 2014 08:29 (ten years ago) link
OBW/Thor/Wolv is my A squad too.
― Jeff, Monday, 27 January 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link
burned through most of my boosts on the punisher tourney (just to get a bunch of Thor cards, bleh) but ok, i'll try that combo
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
Astonishing Wolverine is so brokenly OP at the moment, it's both awesome and ridiculous
nothing quite like building up 10 strike tiles so every match hits for over 1.5K and then using his red strike to one-shot the opposing tank
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Broken down by use (always, sometimes, wishlist, rarely)
Starters:Iron Man (***) 89 - 5/2/2Wolverine (**) 85 - 5/5/3Black Widow (**) 73 - 5/5/3
Bench:Thor (**) 68 - 4/5/4Daken (**) 62 - 5/5Spider-Man (***) 53 - 1/2/3Moonstone (**) 45 - 5/5/3Hulk (***) 41 - 4/0/2Juggernaut (*) 40 - 5/5
Top Prospects:Magneto (**) 37 - 2/3/2Magneto (***) 15 - 0/0/1
Farm System:Storm (*) 32 - 5/4/4Captain America (**) 31 - 5/5/3Wolverine (****) 30 - 0/1/0The Hood (***) 28 - 1/3Punisher (***) 28 - 0/1/2Dr. Doom (***) 25 - 2/0/0Ragnarok (***) 25 - 2/0Hawkeye (**) 23 - 5/4/3Ares (**) 22 - 1/0/3Black Widow (***) 15 - 0/2/0Loki (***) 15 - 1/0Wolverine (***) 15 - 1/0/0Storm (**) 12 - 5/5/3Spider-Man (**) 6 - 2/0/0
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
also re: scotland yard, last night i was #1 in my pool w/o actually beating the 230lvl one, for what it's worth.
now i'm 20 but that's beside the point. i slept for a few hours, see.
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link
sleep, you dare?
i gotta grind some more
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link
yall have convinced me to put more iso into OBW
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
I wish I had more IM40 covers, he is really an amazing color battery
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
I think I have decided not to bother with this; hit a ceiling which I either can't get covers to improve higher * characters and can't get through with high level/low * ones. SHIELD training just offers me vs three characters at levels between 50 and 75 for under 20 points, and if I stop grinding to make a cup of tea or go to the toilet or sleep I start again to find I've been attacked for (whatever gains I made during the last heal-pack heavy session) -3 leaving me barely better off than where I started.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
love when i get all 3 of his yellows to pop, pretty much an auto heal + slash from obw / wolvie
also i have been reaaallllllly tempted to aim for that 6-10 spot in the PVE matches, heroic x3 looks nice, but i am like convinced that i'll just get 3 wolv**s or something
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
er that was xp
it's hard for me to keep my rosters straight since I have different lineups on my phone and iPad; iPad has a lvl 85 Astonishing Wolvie and phone is mostly full of scrubs (highest char is... lvl 56 Cap? who I mostly use to take out opponent's timer/strike tiles)
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
aldo: these story missions are the ones to hit when you can't do the tourneysbasically you gotta grind for recruit tokens. forever. Here's my current drop rate:1* - 243 (82.37%)2* - 43 (14.58%)3* - 9 (3.05%)
Between the story missions and lightning tourneys (where you just need to fight twice to get a recruit token) it's easy to keep getting those tokens, but time consuming. but you wanted that iso anyway, right?
will: i'm sitting on an almost maxed out IM40, i want to push his Yellow to 5 cards, so good
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
I feel like once I get IM40's Recharge to 5 cards, I will be invincible in story missions at a bare minimum
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
he's pretty awesome, but like Cap, largely an HP soak/AP charger since you won't get too attacks out for a long time. Even the Yellow ability increases cost at each level, so you need a lot of Yellow matches before that hits
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I was actually thinking of keeping the yellow lean for that very reason. Might change my mind if I actually GET more of his covers tho b/c *** = take what I can get
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
damn, thanks for the heads up on Astonishing Wolvie dudes. Strike tile bonus is hilariously OP + Espionage double-attack from OBW
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
so basically IM40 + Thor
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link
nah, because Thor's special attacks are so good (for now). Thor is an offensive machine, all you need is the 6 red AP to start off a yellow > green loop. he has no real weaknesses at this point
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
not loop, i mean chain
it's all dependent on tile placement, though; maybe it's just because he's sitting in the mid-60s for me right now (I think 63?) but whenever I try to launch a Thor chain, I just end up setting up the board for my opponent to do an amazing cascade
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link
the real trick is to actually store up 12 red or more, so you get at least two of those off, you're guaranteed at least one free yellow match/cascade
― Nhex, Monday, 27 January 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that makes sense; I'm still mostly building my offense around Astonishing Wolvie's green-red combo so I never really exercise Thor
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
it's also fun loading up on blue tiles with Spidey and rolling stuns on the opposing team
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
seriously though wtf is with the levels of the enemies in scotland yard. no rhyme or reason to when they're like level 50 and when they're level 10000
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
I get what's being said about lightning tourneys but the same is happening there: all my matchups are against teams where the lowest powered is maybe 5 levels above my highest powered and I just can't get a way in against the hideously lucky drops the opposition always seems to get. And when it comes to the regular tourneys, I am hideously limited in what fights I can actually do by not having had beneficial recruits elsewhere.
I'll stop moaning now, as everybody else seems to be managing fine.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 27 January 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link
naw, you're describing the game before you fully level a 2 star character really
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 January 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link