Paul Simon's 'Graceland'

lol at van zandt getting simon off the assassination hit list, he is so connected

idk overall its interesting how much people hate paul simon, id say the case itt is at best half made and relies on some pretty weak sauce, a lot of not so coherent eye witness testimony, reward for lamest is forks claiming simon stole jimmy cliffs band (recorded a song with them) lol

btw i just discovered via wikipedia that whitney houstons mom sings back up on mother and child reunion!

she wrote the song too. simon never credited her though. "I don't give a fucking shit" he said when she complained

50 ways to lose the respect of your fellow artists

youre not seeing both sides tho he did it in order to motivate her to have a super cool daughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbhcMe4oN1A

paul simon is god and jesus literally

listened to this album 8 times today already. i don't care how it was made and how many people he was an asshole to, it's great.

its so magical

I don't want no part of this crazy love

would take any given 10 seconds of this album over all the holier-than-thou bullshit dave marsh has typed in his entire lifetime

paul and linda ronstadt sound nice on that one song, too bad they both owned beach front villas in sun city back in the 80s

The controversy makes an average album bearable imo

"Under African Skies" is the only track that I'd accuse of colonialism but it's so damn pretty, especially Rondstadt's vocal.

im going to kill u xp

i think the music of the album is great, but i think the production and simon's behaviour re: the boycott of south africa, etc, is at least a little problematic. any of you see the documentary that was recently-ish released about it?

also, bastard stole annie hall from alvy singer. NEVA FORGET.

and I can say wee-oooh-weee-oooh and for all practical purposes it would be legally binding
I mean for all practical and foreseeable purposes it'd be legally binding

annie hall was my favourite film when I was 16 and I didn't even know simon was in it! shame on me for a thousand years.

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I saw the documentary p good and interesting, obvs portrays ps in a favorable light

More than the politics, I'm fascinated by Simon's ability to piss people off. He's not exactly Lou Reed or even Ray Davies but there's a prickly charmlessness which spoilt his live show for me and maybe explains why he made so enemies over Graceland. And yet he's the most extraordinarily humane and insightful lyricist - it doesn't add up.

unless someone else wrote them too

you're right, it doesn't add up.

my god. son of a bitch didn't even write the lyrics, did he?

Los Lobos wrote most of his best lyrics iirc

extraordinary artist, ordinary person

were you at the hyde park show a few years back, DL? where PS kept disappearing from the stage, to be replaced by, say, Jimmy Cliff for a couple of songs? was bizarre.

where are the bodies, simon!?

he had to leave the stage periodically to steal more music xp

paul simon monster

i bet all that cocaine he did in the 70s wasnt even his

Woody allen wrote the lyrics, simon killed paul

if indeed that is his real name

Thanks for clearing this up guys. Now can someone find me the demo of The Only Living Boy in New York with the real PS lyric? "Fuck off to Mexico and make your fucking movie/You talentless hack/But don't expect me to keep carrying your sorry ass/When you get back."

"so long frank lloyd wright (i'm about to kill you)"

wait Paul Simon killed John Lennon?

re: Sun City album

EMI Thorne was busy selling riot-control cattle prods to the SA police at the same time they were making money off of the Sun City album. they spun the weapons division off later, but iirc at the time is was still under the same corporate roof. that might not make a difference to the "I just like the music" types, but I always saw that album as a perfect example of well meaning liberal hypocrisy that ends up supporting what it claims to be against.

'go jump off a bridge into troubled waters'

'for emily (although they'll never find her)'

xp That's not hypocrisy unless you think the weapons division approved the record - that's different arms of a conglomerate behaving in different ways and doesn't reflect badly at all on Van Zandt.

who do you guys hate worse

paul simon

robbee roberston

and surely the record's intention was to spread word abt south africa anyway, which it succeeded in doing.

he says paid them *triple* scale in an interview with UNCUT last year, so if Van Zandt can't even get that fact correct, i dunno..

it was just a ploy tho to make himself seem like not an asshole... which he definitely is

btw

While taking the songwriting credits to himself

erm

Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "The Boy in the Bubble" Forere Motloheloa, Paul Simon 3:59
2. "Graceland" Simon 4:48
3. "I Know What I Know" General MD Shirinda, Simon 3:13
4. "Gumboots" Lulu Masilela, Jonhjon Mkhalali, Simon 2:44
5. "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" Joseph Shabalala, Simon 5:45
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
6. "You Can Call Me Al" Simon 4:39
7. "Under African Skies" Simon 3:37
8. "Homeless" Shabalala, Simon 3:48
9. "Crazy Love, Vol. II" Simon 4:18
10. "That Was Your Mother" Simon 2:52
11. "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" Los Lobos, Simon 3:15

― lag∞n, Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

perhaps worth noting that OG pressing of Graceland didn't credit Los Lobos for writing music to Myth of Fingerprints - did this happen later?

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has anybody confirmed these pay claims of Simon's or is it just well we asked him and he says he paid the shit outta those ingrates

"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever

perhaps worth noting that OG pressing of Graceland didn't credit Los Lobos for writing music to Myth of Fingerprints - did this happen later?

ha no p sure someone was just monkeying around on wikipedia

probably los lobos

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour)
Posted: January 27, 2014 at 7:22:00 PM
"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever

lol yes virtuoso shit

did paul simon even write la bamba

I did used to think that was Paul Simon on the cover of the La Bamba soundtrack when I was a little kid.