Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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There are plenty of outlets for that kind of drivel w/o the Graun getting in on the party. At least do it somewhere I'm not likely to see it, pls.

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Guide single reviews have always been mean-spirited - this isn't a new development.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

This is his schtick, he's a bratty 20yr old who takes the piss out of everything cunt

fixed. Or what you said, basically. #bantz

wins, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

wins and lex otm

My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

I don't think anyone itt is objecting to mean-spiritedness, irreverence etc, just thick lumpheaded #LADBANTZ

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

The worst Guide revisw I've read was a couple of years ago, for a Tulisa single, where the reviewer saw fit to take the piss out of her allegedly deficient blowjob technique, which he'd watched on the tape that had just been leaked without her consent.

mike t-diva, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link

The vibe has always been snark and sometimes it's funny and more often it's cheap shots and strained obnoxiousness. It's been like that as long as I've been reading it.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

"Bratty 20yr olds who take the piss out of everything" is a respectable school of writing, or comedy writing, when it's done well.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link

I recall one that was like 'This, this is what grey-skinned council estate children are listening to' in a singles review for a popular girl band

cardamon, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Also guardian book review section only reviews poetry books from a small list of high-profile uk poetry publishers and they are always puff-pieces, not reviews

cardamon, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

think there's probably a stepping-off point between snark and misogyny but maybe i am just trying to score Marc Loi points

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/the_trust-fund_newspaper.php

Add it all up and GMG would have a nearly $1.9 billion pile of cash or, conservatively, somewhere around $1.6 billion after taxes (UPDATE: if they apply. See above update). Even if that cash were to get zero return and The Guardian isn’t able to cut its $51 million annual loss, it could fund the paper until about 2045.

j., Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

Charles Foster Kane:
"You're right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars *next* year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I'll have to close this place in... 60 years."

koogs, Thursday, 30 January 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

the level of quality one would expect of an extended january transfer window deadline day liveblog might not be very high but it's still worse than anything in recent memory on the guardian site including rhiannon lucy coslett's blog about onesies

I refuse to actually read the article but its existence was enough to upset me:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/02/delete-candy-crush-saga-from-phone

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 3 February 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link

let's just agree to never read anything by stuart heritage

fresh from zone one through zones A-D (c sharp major), Monday, 3 February 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

The Guardian is excruciating when it acts like yr fuddy parent. Be that wincing about modernity or trying to sell u £300 kitchen scales.

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 08:31 (ten years ago) link

That aspect doesn't annoy me half as much as their half-baked attempts to attract the Younger Readership (see The Guide most weeks). Don't have the precise demographics to hand but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of their readers are over 50 and don't have a smartphone, let alone know or care what Candy Crush is.

So is candy crush the same as bejewelled

kinder, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link

no, bejewelled is a legitimate game.

Mordy , Tuesday, 4 February 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link

in all likelihood, an interminable scene two thirds of the way through where the main character gets drugged, then everything goes blurry and he has a tedious epiphany about his childhood.

this was almost funny tbf

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

I really can't be arsed to ever read that Russell Brand thing

kinder, Friday, 7 February 2014 13:08 (ten years ago) link

Russell Brand: "Russell Brand".

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link

he's in an invidious position because he doesn't get to discuss his ideas in the media except by dint of his persona, which inevitably draws the attention of his interviewer. but it might be interesting to draw comparisons with Rob Newman, who was surely once near the same level of celebrity as Brand, and who seems to have chosen to draw different conclusions about his own career from his political beliefs.

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

Brand's a lot more famous than Newman, but they've both got form WRT 'radical mouth, reactionary penis'.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link

i'm thinking of Wembley Arena era Newman, tho i guess he never took that level across the Atlantic. you might well be right about their sexual politics. Newman seems to have noticed the disconnect between radical communal politics and cults of personality better than Brand has managed so far.

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link

sexual politics is maybe too prissy a term for "thinking with your dick"

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link

...though it might be that musician/comedian nerd revenge thing where they take out their adolescent lack of action on female peers by playing head games with the grown-up versions of the smart girls who spurned them at school.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 7 February 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

Observer and not Guardian but this seems bizarre and badly judged.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/09/woody-allen-dylan-farrow-alleged-sexual-abuse

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link

Couldn't believe that article. What was most revealing to me was the sheer delusional nature of:

I have given this a lot of miserable thought and, I think, found a way through.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

As if the world has been waiting for her unique insight and can now make progress on this issue...

mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link

to some extent that is the folly of columnists but yeah, bad, bad look

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link

It read like fairly standard fence-sitting until I got to the second half. I presume she was trying to be empathetic but it just comes across as weird voyeuristic speculation.

Matt DC, Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

Bringing up the Ebrahimi murder is bizarre as well, horrific as that story was, afaik no child had actually accused him of abuse.

Matt DC, Sunday, 9 February 2014 11:54 (ten years ago) link

Truly awful piece, but unsurprisingly the comments manage to outdo it. Christ.

gyac, Sunday, 9 February 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/feb/14/i-hate-shopping-food-supermarket?CMP=fb_gu

Man thinks deli is too expensive, goes to supermarket instead. Has too much choice, wishes such a thing as a deli existed and claims he would travel miles to get to one.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link

Man goes to shop and buys what he went for cheaper than he could have done somewhere else. Moans about it. World fails to give a fuck.

ailsa, Saturday, 15 February 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

Valentine's Day is more like a tax than a tribute to love
7 Feb 2014: Tim Lott: Capitalism has hijacked the Valentine tradition and now you can't do it on the cheap without being labelled unromantic
7 comments

Is Is it ever a good idea to apologise?
31 Jan 2014: Tim Lott: I am a profuse apologiser, but my wife tends to take these lightly as they come so easily to me. But what's a 'real' apology anyway?
3 comments

Why I want to be buried not cremated
24 Jan 2014: Tim Lott: I want somewhere for my family and descendants to go and think of me when I am dead. My mother was cremated and so there's nowhere to honour her – I can't even remember where the crematorium was
20 comments

The endangered art of storytelling
Tim Lott 10 Jan 2014: Tim Lott: The new Hobbit film is just one set piece battle after another with a love story tacked on
4 comments

soref, Saturday, 15 February 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link

I suspect that Tim Lott's trip to the supermarket was totally made up. I'm not saying he's never been to a supermarket just that he pretended to in this instance. Totally banal.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Saturday, 15 February 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Things I learned today: Tim Lott founded FLEXIPOP!

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/feb/04/flexipop-tim-lott

soref, Saturday, 15 February 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Jesus, all his article summaries are awful. "Tim Lott has thinky thoughts about things!"

gyac, Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

The weight of choice was oppressive – six kinds of strawberry jam, 20 blends and strengths of coffee, 15 types of cheddar. The sense of being manipulated is overwhelming

where have you been man; soviet emigres were less surprised than this

Adolescents need a rite of passage to ease them into adulthood
3 Jan 2014: Tim Lott: Sadly, some young people join gangs. We need to devise a ritual to help them through this difficult transition

the fact that they had put the staples, such as bread, in the deepest part of the shop, is just one of the many tricks designers use to break your will and draw you into the "supermarket experience".

he trots this out as though imparting some rare knowledge. children learn this in school.

gyac, Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

I would rather my daughters took MDMA than started smoking
30 Aug 2013: Tim Lott: What worries me is not so much illegal drugs, which mostly seem to cause a relatively low level of harm compared with cigarettes and alcohol. What worries me is addiction
430 comments

gyac, Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

so let me get this straight, they give him space on a popular website to post this shit?

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link

mdma might help w the supermarket

I'm hearing an attempt for a tone of John Peel-style whimsical helplessness in Tim Lott's article, but it not quite succeeding.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link

if it's formal ambition you want, you want this one


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