What is the most offputting barrier to you listening to and enjoying certain types of music

Feel like I've been seeing K3rrangst about this topic on like 5 different threads recently. Ramona, I have to ask: do you accept that any of these as satisfactory reasons for people not to listen to metal a genre?

http://flavorwire.com/436419/does-underground-metal-have-a-place-in-the-mainstream/

That prob is questionable but you know what I mean

haha, i don't

Ooh, I bet you're wondering how I knew
'bout you're plans to make me blue
with some other guy that you knew before.
Between the two of us guys
you know I love you more.
It took me by surprise I must say,
when I found out yesterday.
Don't you know that...

I heard it through the grapevine
not much longer would you be mine.
Oh I heard it through the grapevine,
Oh and I'm just about to lose my mind.
Honey, honey yeah.

I know that a man ain't supposed to cry,
but these tears I can't hold inside.
Losin' you would end my life you see,
cause you mean that much to me.
You could have told me yourself
that you love someone else.
Instead...

People say believe half of what you see,
son, and none of what you hear.
I can't help bein' confused
if it's true please tell me dear?
Do you plan to let me go
for the other guy you loved before?
Don't you know...

1a. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden say,
Funky butt funky butt, take it away,
Stinky butt funky butt, take it away,
I thought I heard him say.

1b. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden shout,
Open up the window an’ let the bad air out,
Open up the window an’ let the bad air out,
I thought I heard him shout.

2a. I thought I heard Judge Fogarty say,
Give him thirty days in the market, take him away,
Give him a good broom and take the prisoner away,
I thought I heard him say.

2b. I thought I heard Frankie Dusen shout,
Give me our money or I’ll beat it out,
Give me our money or I’ll beat it out,
I thought I heard him shout.

3a. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden say,
Monkey butt, funky butt take it away,
Funky butt, stinky butt take it away,
I thought I heard him say.

3b. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden shout,
Open up the window an’ let this foul air out,
Open up the window an’ let the foul air out,
I thought I heard him shout.

Ultimately, what is most important is how mainstream coverage benefits the bands. Do they see an increase in album sales or attendance at shows? Journalist Kim Kelly, who writes for Pitchfork (where she specializes in underground black metal and doom bands), along with the UK metal mag Iron Fist, The FADER and several others, says the feedback she gets from bands she covers in her more mainstream writing gigs proves that they are. “Sometimes I’ll get an email asking if I have covered something recently, because the band saw a spike in Bandcamp sales and figured I was behind it! I know for a fact that my scribblings have made certain bands money, gotten them gigs, or helped them make valuable connections, and that’s all the justification I need to keep on keepin’ on.”

kkdomitor nails it

1. Shredded Humans

Early hours, open road, family of five - on their way home
Having enjoyed a day in the sun, their encounter with gore has just begun
A homicidal fool not knowing left from right, now has the family in his sight
Trying to perceive if he's blind or insane,
he steers his car into the other lane

Both of them collide, expressions horrified
Head on at full speed, the vultures will soon feed

The father of three was impaled on the wheel,
as his skull became a part of the dash
His eyeballs ejected his sight uneffected, he saw his own organs collapse
His seatbelt was useless for holding him back, it simply cut him in two
Legs were crushed, out leaked pus as his spinal cord took off and flew
The mother took flight through the glass, and ended up impaled on a sign
Her intestines stretched from the car down the road for a quarter of a mile

Fourth child on the way, won't live another day
Fetus on the road, with mangled little bones
Little children fly, not a chance to wonder why
Smashed against the ceiling, all their skin burning and peeling
Shards of glass explode, chest and skull now implode
Corpses they've become, and graves will have to be dug

Underneath the wheels, burning rubber on your face
Bleeding from your eyes, the slaughtered victims lies
Knowing what he's done, he just backs up one more time
Laughing at the mess, a pile of meat on the street

One child left slowly dying now, arteries gushing blood
Now it's time to feed on flesh, the gore has just begun

Early hours, open road, family of five - on their way home
Having enjoyed a day in the sun, their encounter with gore has just begun
A homicidal fool not knowing left from right, now has the family in his sight
Trying to perceive if he's blind or insane,
he steers his car into the other lane

The look of death in my eye
Surely no-one will survive
Just a pile of mush
Left to dry in the sun

I see my fresh kill
Left in the road
Remains of your bodies
Mangled and torn

sorry cardamon i don't know what you're talking about

the reason I don't listen to much metal is that, while heavy/uptempo rock is some of my favorite music in the world, most of the stuff that passes muster as 'metal' seems to seek out some extreme territory where it's either so fast or so slow that it doesn't really rock to me. nevermind that the 70s metal/proto metal that i like has the kind of hooks that would get a current band downgraded to mere 'hard rock.'

i dunno if there's a list option for that, though, or what the nearest equivalent would be.

― scott c-word (some dude), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This more-or-less mirrors my views. But the biggest barrier to getting into most post-Sabbath metal is the drum sound. It's either reverbed to shit, heavily gated, a broad flump or (usually) all of the above. And the bass drum just sounds like a low click. I love electronic drums/drum machines in other contexts, but in metal it just sounds goofy (and pointless, when an acoustic bass drum is made to sound indistinguishable from an electronic bass drum).

Also cardomon otm re: nihilism.

Also, Cookie Monster vocals. Are...are you actually trying to scare...anybody? And has it ever worked?

I hate typewriter drums in modern extreme metal too. Its my pet hate. Thought I'd started a thread on this actually but cant find it.

kill (em) all click tracks

Marcos: it's probably subjective

Grapevine just seems full of bitterness and threat to me, Buddy Bolden is about a pimp and nothing much happens in the story of the song, it just goes on and on, same situation

I am put off by death metal because of the vox and the lack of riffs I can appreciate.

But I do like typewriter drums.

I am put off by HC because Henry Rollins pisses me off.

bbbbut Henry is supposedly the hottest dude in metal according to this list!
http://blastbeat.us/?p=3768

http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/female-metal-journalists-turn-it-around-pick-50-hottest-guys-in-metal

Maybe you prefer him with long hair when he was in black flag? ;)

Naw, it's just his attitude. he looks better with short hair.

Bruce Dickinson is clearly still the hottest.

lemmy and wino surprisingly high in that poll. Do people really fancy him? even when he was young he was hardly good looking.

(lemmy i mean)

just close your eyes and listen to his voice.

http://blastbeat.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7-DOLKKAMPFAR-1.jpg

he just looks like your normal metal dude at a gig. At least when hes chatting up the ladies noone has to ask him what band he's in.

Imagine the foreplay with him?

"what do you mean you felt a little prick!?"

LOL

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

predictable winner but "Too white and I feel out of place in that culture." 9 is depressing.

79 of you. 79

79 is a lot

"It's too basic and primal and not enough inventiveness." 1 was that a vote by a 15 year old imago?

Huge throbbing swarms of metal heads in Latin America don't seem to think it's too white.

there's some really great articles on African metal too online. Apparently its popular in a lot of big cities in some countries there. There is something "worldly" about metal. I suppose lyrics arent a big deal so it doesnt matter if you cant understand the lyrics. English speaking metalheads can enjoy non-english metal as much as the non-metal speaker enjoys english stuff. Plus there's less commercial pressure on them to sing in english too?

Absolutely. I remember that photojournalism of Nigerian (I think?) metalheads... some bad-ass dudes but they def. are rolling with a different aesthetic than US and Europe. Purely homegrown, it's great.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/05/egypt-culture-of-the-undefeated/
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/06/african-metal-2-libya-and-tunisia/
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/08/african-metal-algeria-morocco/
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/09/african-metal-4-cameroon/
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2013/10/african-metal-5-uganda/
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/01/african-metal-6-zambia-and-zimbabwe/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tfwZnKW4pCw

I remember that photojournalism of Nigerian (I think?) metalheads.

was it not Botswana?

For me, it's all about the lyrical themes. You have your choice of:

-Satanism: I would loved it at 13. But as an adult, it seems so silly and immature.
-Fantasy-based lyrics, Dungeons & Dragons, hobbits: see above.
-Cliched teen angst: doesn't appeal to me as an adult
-Cliched anti-war lyrics: I agree with the sentiment, but metal anti-war lyrics seem perversely pro-war. Because war is the only thing more brutal than death metal, man

The vocals don't help either. It's not that I hate death metal vocals. I think they're a interesting novelty that's good for 1 or 2 albums, but that's it.

There there are the metal hipsters, the absurd emphasis on keepin' it real, the hyper-masculine attitudes, the prog-rock tendencies of "good" metal bands, on and on. I can't entirely dismiss any genre, but metal isn't my favorite by a long shot.

-Fantasy-based lyrics, Dungeons & Dragons, hobbits: see above.
-Cliched teen angst: doesn't appeal to me as an adult
-Cliched anti-war lyrics:

its not the 1980s; things have moved on since!

Seriously though, got any bands in mind you speak of?

Not really, but I've downloaded quite a few metal albums that I frequently see cited as the best of all time. I didn't really like any of them.

my biggest hangup with metal is i haven't heard any metal song that is as good as surfin bird. "you suffer" comes close.

tetrisattack which ones?

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