LET THERE BE ROCK
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 February 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link
may launch the noms thread on monday, if life and deadlines don't get in the way.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 February 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
it also occurred to me in a way that the poll format here is a little self-defeating? why not start a thread where people laud 10 or 12 of their personal favourite albums
People hate list threads way more than polls. At least big polls bring (mostly) all the community together. Just look at the amount of people who nominated/still are. Who have never taken part in any of my polls before and many whom have probably not taken part in this thread either.
And IF all time poll is forced to get in the 3 year queue does that mean the half decade poll has to as well? No one has answered that yet.
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
nobody's "forcing" anybody to do anything, man. the community is establishing the etiquette for this stuff and you can follow it or not, as long as you understand that when you don't, people have opinions.
half decade poll would probably just come at the end of the half-decade just like year-end polls get done at the end of the year, usually the 'timely' stuff like that (or RIP polls for artists who just passed away) takes precedent.
― some dude, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:44 (ten years ago) link
so basically an all-time poll doesn't fit into this thread either then.
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link
voting opens the day after Judgement Day
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
of course we'll already have God's top 100 by then
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link
lol
― some dude, Sunday, 16 February 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link
Is he bigger than the Beatles though? His son wasn't apparently.
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link
*Beatles disqualified for being bigger than my son
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link
Icon that doesn't display on my cheap phone, I gotta say, I'd be more sympathetic to your poll position (ha) if it weren't for the tone you've struck on this thread, and moreso in the other thread, which can very easily be read as ''gosh, sorry all you lovely people who want to do this poll, but a bunch of meanies and don't want you to have that fun, so I'll be the bigger person and take my toys and go home so that the death panel can decide all our fates. Happy Nominating!'' It reads as this mutant form of passive aggression where somehow the community at large becomes responsible for your choice to not engage with the queue process.
Bringing in end-of-decade/EOY posts is a red herring - those kinds of things have always had precedence in the queue because they only make sense at certain times. It's not remotely clear why ''an all-time poll doesn't fit into this thread'' unless you believe the end of time (EOT) is nigh and that this is therefore the only appropriate time for this poll.
I put Classic Rock in the queue maybe two years ago, I think, and passed it on to some dude a year and a half ago when I started back to school. You could have put ''all albums'' in back then and we wouldn't be having any discussion at all, but what I get from you is the sense that the queue doesn't apply to you and that the polls it organizes don't interest you. If that's the case, just say that and spare us the disingenuous ''poor little ol' me'' posts.
The funny thing is that the queue system has actually given us more and better polls! As noted upthread, people are inspired to sign up partly by the cushion that it's a ways away - and are motivated to stick with the idea in a way that they might not have been before the system. It unquestionably has downsides, for example I think it puts on pressure to have a pretty fast rollout of results, which I think is tough both on poll-runners and readers. But it's so much better than a free for all. If you don't agree, please stake out an alternative.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
and look at the tone in the reply when I did ask for something to be put in the queue..
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
lists w/ explanations &c. infinitely preferable to polls
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
obviously there's room for both & its good to hear from ppl who feel happier voting in polls & get a senae of the lay of ilxland, but the all-time poll is so byzantine it feels like an absurdist critique of ilx poll culture
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
yep
― sleeve, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
"so byzantine" is a fair criticism. but just from scanning the spreadsheet of nominations, i've already preliminarily explored, and added to my itunes "wish list," half-a-dozen albums. that type of discovery is all i'm hoping for through this exercise.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
LJ's idea of a v restricted ballot appealed to me tho. Wld enjoy seeing ilxors making a case for ten favs or something in any format
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
A shame he would need to wait 3 years then
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
Anyway Im bored of arguing about this so no more on this from me. Polls already off anyway. Classic rock poll is starting soon so invest your energies in that instead of arguing over rules and other shit.
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
someone w/ coding skills cld create a permanent, fluid ilx top 100/500/1k albums which users cld submit/edit ballots towards to give you an ever-changing manifestation of ilx's collective tastes, tho it wld lack the declarative finality of a roll-out & wld be trickier to feel proprietorial about
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
this is a good idea ^^^^^^^^^, with something to allow those who've already voted to swap albums in-and-out, but not cast multiple votes.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that actually feels like an interesting idea
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
ILX's very own RYM account.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
there's this magazine called sight & sound, right, and every 10 years they do a list of the best films OF ALL TIME, it's silly and useful and interesting and pointless and whatever, but they manage to do it despite such an exercise being impossibly "byzantine". Although I'm sure every time it almost gets derailed by some critics going "but we're already doing a feature on the top 10 italian horror movies this year wtf".
Anyway I don't see why this couldn't be something like that, it would be crazy and fun and I'd enjoy reading lists of people's favourite records ever and why they love them. I wouldn't be devastated if it didn't happen, but I hope it does and it does seem like a different kind of thing to the narrower-focus polls. That is my important opinion.
― Internet Alas (wins), Sunday, 16 February 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
idgif tbh. if it had kicked off parallel to an artist poll it probably would have been nbd but the "classic rock" poll has been coming for a long time and has a similar gonzo hodgepodge vibe (at least in theory).
anyway I'm looking forward to the opportunity to vote for head east and duke jupiter in something
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
basically Doctor Casino otm on all points. "all albums ever" and "all classic rock hits ever" are too big (and in that sense similar) to run at the same time. a few months between them is reasonable. so, is the classic rock poll happening? (sorry if I missed something)
― g simmel, Monday, 17 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
yeah it is
― Waluigi Weingarten (some dude), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/57/57edc1349db42b32d2baf3642ea8f050930186de9387b0a118caa92567ac678d.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
lol VG
― lewd, pulsating rhythm 4 lyfe (WilliamC), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
idgi ._.
― eeeLectrelane (Leee), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link
bill magill's gonna freak
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 February 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
there was no devo poll?
― ۩, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link
I honestly thought viceroy had done one. Mustve been a standard ilx poll
― ۩, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
POLLing and turning, how can I sleep?: The Roxy Music & Bryan Ferry Results Thread
― charlie h, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:59 (ten years ago) link
can i get a spot at the end of the line for a misfits/samhain/danzig poll? or would nobody care about that..?
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Grady, can I go out and poll tonight?
― how's life, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Gonna post a new full list with 107/They Might Be Giants/Johnny Fever and gr8080's request, but first I want to check -- Sarahell, were you officially putting yourself on the list for No Wave or just gauging interest? And Van Horn Street, ditto for DFA.
― needs more garlic → (WilliamC), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
i will volunteer to run DFA instead of danzig if VHS doesn't want to
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
paging sarahell, also paging some dude (or paging Elvis Telecom if you're too busy)
Actually, if Classic Rock is going to have a lengthy nominations period before voting, Floyd could run concurrently.
― Taking Devil's Tower (by mashed potatoes) (WilliamC), Friday, 21 February 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
I will run the DFA poll.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 21 February 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
put me down for misfits/samhain/danzig then!
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 21 February 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
YES
― sleeve, Friday, 21 February 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
and you have to title it
is there any way that Floyd could possibly *not* run concurrently with classic rock?
personal request, idk if anyone else feels the same way but the thought of participating in both at the same time is daunting to say the least
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link
I'm totally cool with there not being a poll in process for a few days until Classic Rock gets off the ground. Go outside. Smell a flower. Kick a ball.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 February 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
a flower? on feb 21? not here.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
smell a melting pile of slush in a corner of the parking lot
― how's life, Friday, 21 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
smell a freshly roiling floe of dog urine
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
i'm constantly, like, a day away from being caught up enough w/ my professional writing obligations that i don't feel terribly irresponsible spending some time getting the Classic Rock poll setup, so i mean, it'll happen when it happens. maybe even tomorrow (no, really!). if Elvis Telecom wants to coordinate w/ me so we're not running stuff at the same time, that's fine by me, i can wait or i can get mine done before his.
― MISTERSNRUB (some dude), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
i don't really care, i'm just pissy because there are no flowers to smell around here for a good long while and i heard "dust in the wind" on the radio yesterday.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link