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Starting to regret all those two star Daken cards I threw away

polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 01:43 (ten years ago) link

oh no the 50hp I wasted forever ago

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 02:35 (ten years ago) link

I sold a bunch of Dakens, now I have him maxed, his covers aren't too hard to come by.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link

You'll get plenty of Dakens, don't worry
What do you guys think of his assertion that OBW should go 3/5/5 (weakest on AP steal Purple ability)?

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link

that's what i did and i think she's awesome that way.
boosting the purple also makes the ap cost way higher.

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link

I use her so much with magnow, I never need her purple anyway.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 03:45 (ten years ago) link

that too. one level away from maxing magnow out!

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link

whatcha think for next: hulk (current 35, current max at 77) or classic storm (current 31, current max at 85)?
kinda feel like it's time to transition to 3 star fighters and there's a hulk battle on the way...

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link

hmm.. Hulk will probably get a buff for that tourney, plus you'll probably get more Hulk cards at the end, so i say go for it

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link

sold

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 04:45 (ten years ago) link

You'll get plenty of Dakens, don't worry
What do you guys think of his assertion that OBW should go 3/5/5 (weakest on AP steal Purple ability)?

― Nhex, Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weakest on steal means fastest and most reliable to get it out. an early purple, even at less AP steal, will set you up great for the rest of the match.

eric banana (s.clover), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 05:59 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, you guys sound right. Damn. Shouldn't have sold off that Black OBW card I got last week, I figured I would respec to 5/5/3.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link

at max black and max level, she hits for a bonus 122 points of damage every time she matches black/purple/blue

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 06:04 (ten years ago) link

I wouldn't sweat it too much, because the flipside is that 11 AP isn't prohibitively harder to reach, especially with Espionage, which means at most 3 total matches (versus at least 2 at 3/5/5), and after you do, you're probably a couple more matches away from getting enough to trigger it again.

xpost yeah the strike tiles + 5 Espionage = true love

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 06:06 (ten years ago) link

Really hope this spot holds in the panther tourney, in 6th place and need top 15 to get another blue cover for IM40... he'll be 5/4/2 if I get it :O

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link

oh shit, three star Thor

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Aw heck, I didn't get attacked so I might as well count that chicken before it hatches.

I don't think I've done one of these in a while....


95 / IM40 *** 5/4/2
85 / Thor ** 4/4/5
85 / AWolv ** 4/5/4 <-- dumb mistake, will respec back to 5/5/3
85 / MagNow ** 3/5/5
85 / OBW ** 4/5/4 <-- on my way to 3/5/5
69 / Daken ** 5/5
69 / Spidey *** 2/2/4
45 / Hulk *** 5/0/3
45 / Moonstone ** 5/5/3
40 / Juggs * 5/5
38 / XWolv ****0/2/0
34 / Hood *** 2/4/1 <-- no idea why i hit so many hood covers...
32 / MStorm * 5/3/5
32 / Doom *** 4/0 <-- ;_;
31 / Cap ** 5/5/3
28 / Hawkeye ** 5/5/3
28 / Big Pun *** 0/2/4
28 / Psylocke *** 1/2/0
25 / Rags *** 3/0
22 / Ares ** 4/0/4
20 / Panther *** 1/1/1
18 / Patch *** 1/1/0
15 / GBW *** 0/2/0
15 / Loki *** 2/0
15 / Daredevil *** 0/1/0
15 / CMags *** 0/0/1
12 / CStorm ** 3/5/5
9 / Venom * 5/5
6 / BAGMAN ** 4/1/5

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

why does 3 star thor look exactly liek 2 star thor? am i missing something???

are they just making a new thor that is as good as the old thor, after nerfing the old one? ooooh people will NOT like that

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

At first glance, it looks like the exact same character with a higher level cap

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link

got a blue model 40 cover after shielding up, so only +25 hp but now my model 40's at 5-3-3

ftr 2-star wolvie + high level OBW is BRUTAL, with strike tiles + 5 cover espionage = 1000 damage per purple blue or black hit

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link

TS: OBW/2* Wolfie vs. OBW/Daken.

So with recent developments I'm going to stop putting ISO into my 2* Thor and instead work on my Astonishing Wolferine.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

I gather magnow is good to use in PvP but as an enemy in this last tourney he never got off a hit on me; I was using the aforementioned black panther + OBW + 2-star wolvie and ate up blue and purple as my first priority, and without those he didn't do anything. I suppose he could have set off a red bomb but the AI never did; if it was l85 thor + l85 magnow (as was often the case) the AI would just use Thor's red instead of magnow's.

I guess my point is wondering about what teams are good in PvP not just as offenders, but as AI-played defenders, since losing in PvP seems to drop me 40+ points per loss

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

The AI is terrible at certain tile change abilities, like Mag Now's Purple or Grey Suit Black Widow's Purple, just throwing them out randomly. The only one I've seen that's actually good on defensive AI is Spider-Man, as the AI actually will wait until it has enough AP to throw out a few stuns to get a loop going.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I guess my point is wondering about what teams are good in PvP not just as offenders, but as AI-played defenders, since losing in PvP seems to drop me 40+ points per loss

As I mentioned upthread, OBW/Daken seems to minimize the point loss and even gives me some net positive points like 1 out of 4 nights. Also, the link I posted above sez that a Hulk with 5 black is one of the most intimidating presences that discourages people from playing against him. More within the realm of my experience, I'd say that an opponent with a Bullseye/Daken combo would discourage me from attacking, simply because of how annoying that team would be.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

right, I get the intimidation thing, but I wonder if someone---d3p forum dwellers?---has worked out which teams are the best off in PvP on the defensive side, by which I mean which teams maximize your chances of winning PvP battles when the AI is playing for you.

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

obw daken seems better than 2* wolvie these days. the regen on daken works much better, and reliably spamming strike tiles means much more when paired with obw than wolvie's damage on top + ability to eventually toss out a bunch at once.

The one thing you're really losing is wolvie's red, so you don't have any strong finisher. so if your third has a high dps move than i think its worth it, but otherwise not so sure.

eric banana (s.clover), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

wolvie's red is massive in PvP though, since if you're up against a say l85 thor, OBW's purple can wear down the enemy's red, but can't stop it entirely; but if you get him down to ~3000 hp then you can take him down in one hit, before the red->yellow->green cycle begins

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand quite what team you put up in PvP. Is it the last combo that you played? Or the combo that you play most often.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

Guys, if you're about to lose, retreat! You won't lose all those points.

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

you lose points with a retreat too

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

not as many

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

DIE IN BATTLE, ONLY COWARDS RETREAT, HAIL AND KILL

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand quite what team you put up in PvP. Is it the last combo that you played? Or the combo that you play most often.

Last played.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Not just last played, but last won. If you lose, I don't think that team goes up.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

omg the rubberband scaling, so cruel. went from lvl 15s, closed the app to come back 15 minutes later, everybody's 150+

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

Ah, didn't know that -- thanks, Nhex!

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

U r teh nabisco of MPQ.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I.. provide cookies? Sure!

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

just got a black panther black cover off my hulk reward token, so I have him at 1 blue/2 black---his black attack is gonna be MEAN, no? I can see it crowding out cstorm's blue, esp since it'll team well with OBW's espionage.

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

nabisco == notoriously OTM (former?) ilxor!

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

not so much former as occasional; he's on staff for New York mag i believe

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

they really screwed up this event; just look at the leaderboard scores. i might just give up on the Hulk and focus on the PvPs

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link

this scaling is terrible for me again. all 230s, basically.

i don't want your stupid *** thor anyway.

eric banana (s.clover), Thursday, 6 March 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link

I hate fighting hulk.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 March 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link

I am working away in a town with no wifi and the always online requirement might break this for me. The last few days in Black Panther were ridic - if I was away for 30 minutes I could easily lose 40 points and always over 100 if it was an hour, which conspired to put me in the Cap zone.

Add to that the lighting rounds just screwing me over - my only pairups would be against level 2 and 3 1* characters, proper 200 hp jobs but they would still offer me 20 vps for them, who would then wipe out level 70 teams not just once but 4 and 5 games one after the other; then if I managed to sneak past them it would give me 230s. It just feels broken.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Thursday, 6 March 2014 07:15 (ten years ago) link


*** Patch L102 2/3/5
** O. Black Widow L85 3/5/5 max
** Captain America L85 3/5/5 max
** M.N. Magneto L85 4/5/4 max -- will change to 3/5/5
** C. Storm L85 5/5/3 max
*** Doctor Doom L77 5/2
** Bullseye L69 5/5 max
** Daken L69 5/5 max
*** Loki L64 2/4
** Ares L61 3/2/5
** Moonstone L53 (of 85) 3/5/5
*** Psylocke L51 3/0/2
*** Spider-Man L51 2/0/3
*** Daredevil L51 3/0/2
*** The Hulk L47 (of 51) 4/0/0
*** Iron Man M40 L46 (of 53) 3/2/1
** Thor L45 3/3/2
*** Black Panther L43 1/1/3
*** The Punisher L41 2/1/2
*** The Hood L38 2/2/0
**** Invisible Woman L34 0/1/1
** M. Hawkeye L30 (of 69) 2/5/4
**** X. Wolverine L30 0/0/1
*** G.S. Black Widow L25 0/2/0
*** Ragnarok L18 1/1
** A. Wolverine L15 (of 22) 3/0/1
* M. Storm L15 (of 50) 5/5/3
* Iron Man M35 L10 (of 45) 5/4/3
* M. Black Widow L1 (of 2) 1/1

No
* most of them
** Bag-Man
*** C. Magneto where are you

Not much change since last week. My standard team for this Hulk event is Patch/OBW/Black Panther -- AP-using abilities in every color at last.

qwop zapatos (abanana), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:34 (ten years ago) link

Kinda OT, but what's the word on the new Ms. Marvel title? I haven't bought a comic in forever.

Lee with three Es with an apostrophe (Leee), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link

Oh, and it looks like it's going to get hot in herre.


IceIX wrote:

Psykopathic wrote:Darn. No new character hints :S lol

I'd spill, but I'm worried you all would be all "Flame on!" on me...

Lee with three Es with an apostrophe (Leee), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

let's hope his art is better than Invisible Woman's

have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 7 March 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link

no boobs, no worry

Nhex, Friday, 7 March 2014 04:49 (ten years ago) link


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