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oh shit, three star Thor

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Aw heck, I didn't get attacked so I might as well count that chicken before it hatches.

I don't think I've done one of these in a while....


95 / IM40 *** 5/4/2
85 / Thor ** 4/4/5
85 / AWolv ** 4/5/4 <-- dumb mistake, will respec back to 5/5/3
85 / MagNow ** 3/5/5
85 / OBW ** 4/5/4 <-- on my way to 3/5/5
69 / Daken ** 5/5
69 / Spidey *** 2/2/4
45 / Hulk *** 5/0/3
45 / Moonstone ** 5/5/3
40 / Juggs * 5/5
38 / XWolv ****0/2/0
34 / Hood *** 2/4/1 <-- no idea why i hit so many hood covers...
32 / MStorm * 5/3/5
32 / Doom *** 4/0 <-- ;_;
31 / Cap ** 5/5/3
28 / Hawkeye ** 5/5/3
28 / Big Pun *** 0/2/4
28 / Psylocke *** 1/2/0
25 / Rags *** 3/0
22 / Ares ** 4/0/4
20 / Panther *** 1/1/1
18 / Patch *** 1/1/0
15 / GBW *** 0/2/0
15 / Loki *** 2/0
15 / Daredevil *** 0/1/0
15 / CMags *** 0/0/1
12 / CStorm ** 3/5/5
9 / Venom * 5/5
6 / BAGMAN ** 4/1/5

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

why does 3 star thor look exactly liek 2 star thor? am i missing something???

are they just making a new thor that is as good as the old thor, after nerfing the old one? ooooh people will NOT like that

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

At first glance, it looks like the exact same character with a higher level cap

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link

got a blue model 40 cover after shielding up, so only +25 hp but now my model 40's at 5-3-3

ftr 2-star wolvie + high level OBW is BRUTAL, with strike tiles + 5 cover espionage = 1000 damage per purple blue or black hit

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link

TS: OBW/2* Wolfie vs. OBW/Daken.

So with recent developments I'm going to stop putting ISO into my 2* Thor and instead work on my Astonishing Wolferine.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

I gather magnow is good to use in PvP but as an enemy in this last tourney he never got off a hit on me; I was using the aforementioned black panther + OBW + 2-star wolvie and ate up blue and purple as my first priority, and without those he didn't do anything. I suppose he could have set off a red bomb but the AI never did; if it was l85 thor + l85 magnow (as was often the case) the AI would just use Thor's red instead of magnow's.

I guess my point is wondering about what teams are good in PvP not just as offenders, but as AI-played defenders, since losing in PvP seems to drop me 40+ points per loss

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

The AI is terrible at certain tile change abilities, like Mag Now's Purple or Grey Suit Black Widow's Purple, just throwing them out randomly. The only one I've seen that's actually good on defensive AI is Spider-Man, as the AI actually will wait until it has enough AP to throw out a few stuns to get a loop going.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I guess my point is wondering about what teams are good in PvP not just as offenders, but as AI-played defenders, since losing in PvP seems to drop me 40+ points per loss

As I mentioned upthread, OBW/Daken seems to minimize the point loss and even gives me some net positive points like 1 out of 4 nights. Also, the link I posted above sez that a Hulk with 5 black is one of the most intimidating presences that discourages people from playing against him. More within the realm of my experience, I'd say that an opponent with a Bullseye/Daken combo would discourage me from attacking, simply because of how annoying that team would be.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

right, I get the intimidation thing, but I wonder if someone---d3p forum dwellers?---has worked out which teams are the best off in PvP on the defensive side, by which I mean which teams maximize your chances of winning PvP battles when the AI is playing for you.

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

obw daken seems better than 2* wolvie these days. the regen on daken works much better, and reliably spamming strike tiles means much more when paired with obw than wolvie's damage on top + ability to eventually toss out a bunch at once.

The one thing you're really losing is wolvie's red, so you don't have any strong finisher. so if your third has a high dps move than i think its worth it, but otherwise not so sure.

eric banana (s.clover), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

wolvie's red is massive in PvP though, since if you're up against a say l85 thor, OBW's purple can wear down the enemy's red, but can't stop it entirely; but if you get him down to ~3000 hp then you can take him down in one hit, before the red->yellow->green cycle begins

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand quite what team you put up in PvP. Is it the last combo that you played? Or the combo that you play most often.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

Guys, if you're about to lose, retreat! You won't lose all those points.

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

you lose points with a retreat too

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

not as many

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

DIE IN BATTLE, ONLY COWARDS RETREAT, HAIL AND KILL

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand quite what team you put up in PvP. Is it the last combo that you played? Or the combo that you play most often.

Last played.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Not just last played, but last won. If you lose, I don't think that team goes up.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

omg the rubberband scaling, so cruel. went from lvl 15s, closed the app to come back 15 minutes later, everybody's 150+

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

Ah, didn't know that -- thanks, Nhex!

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

U r teh nabisco of MPQ.

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I.. provide cookies? Sure!

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

just got a black panther black cover off my hulk reward token, so I have him at 1 blue/2 black---his black attack is gonna be MEAN, no? I can see it crowding out cstorm's blue, esp since it'll team well with OBW's espionage.

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

nabisco == notoriously OTM (former?) ilxor!

Lee with three E's (Leee), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

not so much former as occasional; he's on staff for New York mag i believe

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

they really screwed up this event; just look at the leaderboard scores. i might just give up on the Hulk and focus on the PvPs

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link

this scaling is terrible for me again. all 230s, basically.

i don't want your stupid *** thor anyway.

eric banana (s.clover), Thursday, 6 March 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link

I hate fighting hulk.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 March 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link

I am working away in a town with no wifi and the always online requirement might break this for me. The last few days in Black Panther were ridic - if I was away for 30 minutes I could easily lose 40 points and always over 100 if it was an hour, which conspired to put me in the Cap zone.

Add to that the lighting rounds just screwing me over - my only pairups would be against level 2 and 3 1* characters, proper 200 hp jobs but they would still offer me 20 vps for them, who would then wipe out level 70 teams not just once but 4 and 5 games one after the other; then if I managed to sneak past them it would give me 230s. It just feels broken.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Thursday, 6 March 2014 07:15 (ten years ago) link


*** Patch L102 2/3/5
** O. Black Widow L85 3/5/5 max
** Captain America L85 3/5/5 max
** M.N. Magneto L85 4/5/4 max -- will change to 3/5/5
** C. Storm L85 5/5/3 max
*** Doctor Doom L77 5/2
** Bullseye L69 5/5 max
** Daken L69 5/5 max
*** Loki L64 2/4
** Ares L61 3/2/5
** Moonstone L53 (of 85) 3/5/5
*** Psylocke L51 3/0/2
*** Spider-Man L51 2/0/3
*** Daredevil L51 3/0/2
*** The Hulk L47 (of 51) 4/0/0
*** Iron Man M40 L46 (of 53) 3/2/1
** Thor L45 3/3/2
*** Black Panther L43 1/1/3
*** The Punisher L41 2/1/2
*** The Hood L38 2/2/0
**** Invisible Woman L34 0/1/1
** M. Hawkeye L30 (of 69) 2/5/4
**** X. Wolverine L30 0/0/1
*** G.S. Black Widow L25 0/2/0
*** Ragnarok L18 1/1
** A. Wolverine L15 (of 22) 3/0/1
* M. Storm L15 (of 50) 5/5/3
* Iron Man M35 L10 (of 45) 5/4/3
* M. Black Widow L1 (of 2) 1/1

No
* most of them
** Bag-Man
*** C. Magneto where are you

Not much change since last week. My standard team for this Hulk event is Patch/OBW/Black Panther -- AP-using abilities in every color at last.

qwop zapatos (abanana), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:34 (ten years ago) link

Kinda OT, but what's the word on the new Ms. Marvel title? I haven't bought a comic in forever.

Lee with three Es with an apostrophe (Leee), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link

Oh, and it looks like it's going to get hot in herre.


IceIX wrote:

Psykopathic wrote:Darn. No new character hints :S lol

I'd spill, but I'm worried you all would be all "Flame on!" on me...

Lee with three Es with an apostrophe (Leee), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

let's hope his art is better than Invisible Woman's

have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 7 March 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link

no boobs, no worry

Nhex, Friday, 7 March 2014 04:49 (ten years ago) link

- Bob Marley

Wahaca Flocka Flame (DJP), Friday, 7 March 2014 04:59 (ten years ago) link

hopefully the flames will hide his distorted face

have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 7 March 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

Jugs + Hood/Bullseye is really mean!

Hah, I said this before meeting Daken/Bullesye/Hulk.

Lee with three Es with an apostrophe (Leee), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link

maxed out magnow + ogbw + thor is real all or nothing shit; i either end with full health and total destruction or i get wiped out entirely.

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link

haha i roll im40 + obw + magnow (lvl 101/85/85) and my god everything i do is in service to blue AP.

finally got my OBW black card, respecced to 3/5/5 -- espionage damage is truly disgusting.

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link

yep, I'll take OBW tile attacks over even buffed Thor attacks.

I am loving OBW + Thor + Black Panther in this Hulk tourney. no colors wasted and BP black attack is boosted like mad; I do like 1200 to all enemies and he's only at l28 with 2 black covers

Euler, Friday, 7 March 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

hulk up to lv. 54; def gonna grind IM40 next. once i max level a spidey/punisher/hulk/im40 collective as far as I can, I am gonna be hard pressed not to spend real money on HP for covers unless i luck into a few...

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

boosted hawkguy's red attack is pretty fun

have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 7 March 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

Hulk+Daken+Bullseye in this event is ridic, like they tried to create the most annoying team possible. I guess I should be glad it wasn't on the stage that has Oasis.

qwop zapatos (abanana), Friday, 7 March 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link

Daken bulleye plus a lieutenant is also fucking annoying

Euler, Friday, 7 March 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link

imagine how much worse it'd be with daken/bullseye/an effective AP thief (hood, or god forbid obw)

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Friday, 7 March 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

Been a week and this is the only sense of progression I get, so:

MAX **OG BWidow - *85 of 85 - 3/5/5
MAX **MagNow - *85 of 85 - 3/5/5
MAX **Thor - *85 of 85 - 4/5/4
MAX **Wolverine Astonishing - *85 of 85 - 5/4/4
***Spidey - *77 of 77 (141 max) - 3/2/3 (5 left)
MAX **Daken - *69 of 69 - 5/5
**ModHawk - 67 of 85 - 5/5/3 (max)
***Hulk - 57 of 77 (141 max) - 5/0/2 (6 left)
***IM 40 - 55 of 102 (141 max) - 5/3/2 (3 left)
***Punisher - 51 of 64 (141 max) - 1/4/2 (6 left)
MAX *IM 35 - *50 of 50 - 5/4/4
MAX *ModStorm - *50 of 50 - 5/4/4
***Ragnarok - 43 of 77 (115 max) - 3/4 (3 left)
MAX *ModBWidow - *40 of 40 - 5/5
MAX *Juggernaut - *40 of 40 - 5/5
**Ares - 38 of 45 (85 max) - 2/0/5 (6 left)
****Invisible Woman - *34 of 34 (230 max) - 1/1/0 (11 left)
***Classic Mag - 33 of 53 (141 max) - 4/0/1 (8 left)
***Doc Doom - 33 of 41 (115 max) - 3/1 (6 left)
**Classic Storm - 31 of 85 - 5/5/3 (max)
***Wolverine Patch - *30 of 30 (141 max) - 2/1/1 (9 left)
****Wolverine X-Force - 30 of 34 (230 max) - 1/1/0 (11 left)
***Hood - 28 of 41 (141 max) - 3/0/1 (9 left)
***Loki - 28 of 38 (115 max) - 2/2 (6 left)
**Cap - 27 of 85 - 4/4/5 (max)
***Grey BWidow - 25 of 77 (141 max) - 3/0/4 (6 left)
**Moonstone - 21 of 85 - 4/4/5 (max)
**Bullseye - 21 of 61 (69 max) - 4/5 (1 left)
***Daredevil - 18 of 20 (141 max) - 1/1/1 (10 left)
*Venom - 16 of 40 - 5/5 (max)
*Classic Hawk - 15 of 40 - 5/5 (max)
***Psylocke - *15 of 15 - 1/0/0 (12 left)
**Bagman - 7 of 53 (85 max) - 4/2/3 (4 left)
*Yelena - 1 of 40 - 5/5 (max)

Respec-ed Magnow (5 red instead of 5 blue), Thor (5 yellow instead of 5 red), ModStorm (4/4 red black instead of 5/4) and Moonstone (4/4/5 instead of 5/3/5). Will def respec IM40 to lean toward yellow when i can.
Need a Black Panther and a 3-star Thor for full roster. 4 open slots. 125 HP.

Should pick up a bunch of loki or ares covers in the defenders match as i've been hovering around #30 in my bracket with that from the start. Gonna level out hulk/punisher/im40 to their respective maxes with cover limitations in that order and by then it's likely I'll have another imperative... imagine that'll take two weeks.

this fuckin' game. given the fact i play when i wake up to get conscious and when i fall asleep to knock out, i'm kinda astonished that i'm not the most into it on this board but y'all seem more hardcore than i am even. how/why is that

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 March 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

I got into a bruiser yesterday with I think Daken plus a lieutenant plus belena yelova and she kept stealing ap and it made the battle go on and on. I won but it sucked

Euler, Friday, 7 March 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Goddamn this Hulk/Ragnarok/Venom in the desert mission, brutal

Nhex, Friday, 7 March 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

is 3/5/5 the ideal thor build? mine's 4/4/5 now and i am sitting on a red and a yellow card now (thanks hulk pulls... bleh)

Jeff Malone, no relation (Will M.), Friday, 7 March 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link


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