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Pinefox, that was a quote, by the way! Not my own writing!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link

does this mean I can expect to notice a pronounced upswing in bbc one drama

conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link

I guess?

As a parent I'm a bit concerned that kids will now start demanding to watch TV until 8pm instead of the much more sensible 7pm. I always thought the cut-off was due to bedtimes rather than a lack of funds.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:39 (ten years ago) link

i wdn't hold my breath

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link

This is the first time in the BBC's history that we are proposing to close a television channel. I can’t rule out it being the last change to our programmes or services.

this reads a little bit like "oh we hadn't noticed any dramatic changes in the production and reception of TV in the last 5 years"

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link

Surely they should've put some of that money into making comedy?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link

or something funny at least

conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

why start now?

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

Why Not?

Mark G, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link

Like, the Reggie Yates SA doc really SHOULD be on BBC One.

This is the point really, if the programmes are good enough they can go on BBC1 or BBC2, perhaps they could find some room by maybe dropping one of their 5000 antiques shows / property shows / cooking shows / progammes about benefits scroungers or whatever. BBC4 meanwhile is a repository for exactly the sort of programmes that used to be shown on BBC2 but have since been replaced by 5000 antiques shows / property shows /cooking shows / progammes about benefits scroungers or whatever.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link

As a political comedy show that dares to challenge authority, my TV show, The Revolution Will Be Televised, would never have been successful without BBC 3 giving me a platform. Now the BBC are looking to shut the channel down. We can’t let this happen to the only channel that nurtures challenging, cutting edge British comedy.

BBC 3 is the birthplace of comedy careers like Jack Whitehall, Russell Howard, David Walliams and Matt Lucas. It is the platform for voices that aren’t being heard, that go against the grain and don’t fit in with the status quo. That’s why Jono started his petition to save BBC3, because as a fan he knows that platforms like this are sacred. And that’s why me and other comedians like Jack Whitehall, Rick Edwards and Russell Kane have signed.

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

^ best argument for abolition of BBC3 lol amirite

ailsa, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link

matt lucas started out on bbc2 right?

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

pls to abolish bbc2 also

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

4 channels and they couldn't even find room for Limmy. Fuck 'em imo

Number None, Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

I like some the trashy documentary series on BBC3. Whenever I watch "Sun Sex & Suspicious Parents" it just puts me in the mood for a night out.

I am still bewildered by "Snog Marry Avoid" though - why are we all pretending that it's a robot, a talking robot, giving a makeover?

boxedjoy, Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

dog borstal

koogs, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

Think lucas started on paramount comedy channel rip gawd bless ya

sktsh, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

lucas drummer for vic reeves

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

would imagine that russell howard's talent would have brought him right to the top no matter the route taken tbf

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

DOG BORSTAL

conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

But we're talking about a demographic that will, by and large, happily shift online with the channel anyway.

75% of 16- to 24-year-olds' TV viewing is still of live broadcast, though.

Alba, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

dog borstal was fucking awesome

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link

xp

75% of not much is not much, though

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link

the name 'dog borstal' just used to tickle me. would always use it as an excuse for not being somewhere - 'gotta go, dog borstal's on in 15 minutes'...

house of tiny tearaways I remember being good. that, mighty boosh, being human and pramface are probably the only things I ever watched on bbc3

koogs, Friday, 7 March 2014 02:08 (ten years ago) link

BBC Three comedy for instance is consistently terrible, the only bright spots in my memory being People Just Do Nothing (comprising one episode) and Ja'ime - Private School Girl (bought from Australia).

Comedy obviously most specific thing ever taste-wise (I can't stand those ultra-broad Chris Lilley shows, say, which seem weirdly racist to me), but I feel like there are enough innovative spots in the long list of shows they commissioned to make 'consistently terrible' not true: Nighty Night, High Spirits, 15 Storeys High, Mighty Boosh, Snuff Box, Pulling...

Walter Galt, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:52 (ten years ago) link

75% of 16- to 24-year-olds' TV viewing is still of live broadcast, though

How has that number changed over the last five years though? Even over the last year? You'd expect that number to be a lot smaller in two or three years' time alone.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 March 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link

had forgotten 15 storeys high. was a long time ago...

koogs, Friday, 7 March 2014 10:04 (ten years ago) link

Ideal might be the best thing BBC3 have ever shown.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 7 March 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link

was that the line at the top of the "close it down" report?

Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 10:42 (ten years ago) link

Pulling is my favourite ever BBC3 show but they didn't give it much of a push or a third series (I also loved Snuff Box and that was buried six feet deep in the schedule) so I wonder whether the best stuff will actually do better in a digital environment where shows can earn their followings outside of a channel identity that older viewers find offputting. That's the pint-half-full argument anyway.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 7 March 2014 10:50 (ten years ago) link

The three half full pints and a package of crisps argument

Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 March 2014 10:53 (ten years ago) link

a channel identity that older viewers find offputting.

Yeah, this. To the extent that when people have brought up good shows broadcast on BBC3 in its defence, I realised I'd forgotten that they were on that channel at all, so successful has the BBC3's marketing of itself as the home of crass dumbed-down rubbish been.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

the BBC3

lol

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

a channel identity that older viewers find offputting.

Yeah, well i doubt most 16- to 24-year-olds find Radio 4's identity terribly welcoming either.

Alba, Friday, 7 March 2014 11:39 (ten years ago) link

I am not really a Radio 4 person but I admire it and appreciate its existence and sometimes think, maybe I should listen to this constantly.

the pinefox, Friday, 7 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

I also don't find radio 4#s identity terribly welcoming. Radio David Fucking Cameron.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 11:52 (ten years ago) link

Pramface was BBC 3, wasn't it? That was ok.

series 3 is on at the moment.

koogs, Friday, 7 March 2014 12:46 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, well i doubt most 16- to 24-year-olds find Radio 4's identity terribly welcoming either.

True. So what? I'm sure the same scenario would apply there - there are certain Radio 4 shows that would find a broader audience if they were on a digital platform.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 7 March 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link

they are

koogs, Friday, 7 March 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

matt lucas started out on bbc2 right?

Radio 4 I think

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 7 March 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link

Reasonably certain that most of the standups they mention started as standups, regardless of TV exposure.

ailsa, Friday, 7 March 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

I like that matt lucas thing where he plays a lazy and stupid African woman shop assistant

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link

that's almost as funny as Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse's traffic warden sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1BP3AHLZWw

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Friday, 7 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that was awful too. Only thing I liked in 'Harry and Paul' was Whitehouse's intellectual working class man, and the soviet style opening credits.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

should have gone with parking papageno and done it all in the style of the magic flute

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link

Stats here are amazing:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26492684

155,000 given criminal record in 2012 for not paying license fee, accounting for more than 10% of criminal cases.

70 jailed.

Cases

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Saturday, 8 March 2014 14:16 (ten years ago) link

Not sure where the extra 'cases' at the end came from there.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Saturday, 8 March 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

70 jailed.

Pretty sure you don't get sent to jail for not having a TV licence. You can go to jail if you don't pay a fine, which might sound like the same thing but it applies to all kinds of minor crime.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 10 March 2014 11:22 (ten years ago) link


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