good bootleg picks. course with only five ballots (right?) the standard deviation is gonna be a bit high... i had #4 as my #1 and #1 as my #3. my other picks were the old syd boot "magnesium proverbs" for old times' sake, "violence in birmingham", a horrible quality audience tape from 1970 which nonetheless has live versions of "sysyphus", the main theme from "more", and a 25 minute jam based around "the violence sequence", and the "pro-shot in europe" video bootleg- some really nice floyd pro-shot vids are out there nowadays, almost all between '68 and '72. stuff like "corrosion in the pink room" is a must see for heads.
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
good bootleg picks. course with only five ballots (right?) the standard deviation is gonna be a bit high
There weren't many bootleg ballots (and fewer solo track ones), so it's probably best to view these as recommendations only. I'll post the full lists of everything once we're done.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Had 2 of the 5 in my list. And I wanted to vote for Montreux 1970 but actually put Montreux 1971, which is still a pretty good gig.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link
yay Oakland
poll already RULES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
I dig the Chick Tract style.This poll is already much fun.
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link
Game delay. Solo subpolls tomorrow and then...
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 08:31 (ten years ago) link
so when is the main event ?
― rOrD, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 09:03 (ten years ago) link
great graphics so far!
― nathey, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link
Loving this so far, great graphics too!
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:20 (ten years ago) link
SUDDEN SOLO SUBPOLL RESULTS!
Of the few solo subpoll ballots only two solo tracks received more than one vote each, so they're the only finishers. Oddly enough, they tied!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:37 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/solo01-im_a_mineralist.jpg
#1 TIE - I'm A Mineralist (from Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports)145 points, 4 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/JADPCcpUbu0
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link
Crap... that should be
109 points, 3 votes, 1 number one
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/solo01-theres_no_way_out_of_here.jpg
#1 TIE - There's No Way Out Of Here (from David Gilmour)109 points, 3 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/1xUD6MWmSAc
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link
Syd next and then the main event!
that's a lovely photo of dave gilmour
― nathey, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link
never heard a note of Nick Mason solo, but now i'm pretty keen!
― charlie h, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link
For that period around About Face, DG was one handsome MF
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link
"for that period" DG was a handsome mf when he *joined* Floyd, let alone gone solo
sorry, had to
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 13:55 (ten years ago) link
DG was a handsome man from birth to right around the time he had his ninth kid.
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
Testicles: they're not a clown car (except they pretty much are).
― Corporal Clegg, you've got a lovely daughter (WilliamC), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
If 99.9999% of the clowns died immediately after getting out, but I digress.
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd10-no_good_trying.jpg
#10 - No Good Trying108 points, 3 votes
http://youtu.be/q1lAbB-wil4
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd09-rats.jpg
#9 - Rats122 points, 5 votes
http://youtu.be/IvzW2jZGD-Y
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
That's love yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
― KCB (Kent Burt), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_pollsyd08-late_night.jpg
#8 - Late Night153 points, 5 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/b9gM-blNvdM
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd08-late_night.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd07-terrapin.jpg
#7 - Terrapin157 points, 5 votes, 2 number ones
http://youtu.be/VaGRtH7h4oA
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd06-dark_globe.jpg
#6 - Dark Globe162 points, 5 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/xEr6w7P44Nk
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
Didn't vote any Syd on my ballot but Dark Globe's a worthy #1 in his category
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link
Late Night is amazing.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
god I really really need to spend a lot more time with those records
― sleeve, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
As much a hardcore Floyd fan as I have been over the years I never delved into syd solo beyond Madcap Laughs and whatever has come my way on boots. I'm looking forward to some new discoveries as the results play back.
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd05-dominoes.jpg
#5 - Dominoes175 points, 7 votes
http://youtu.be/1tY1aNaIazA
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd04-golden_hair.jpg
#4 - Golden Hair186 points, 7 votes
http://youtu.be/V1SFIAsz3Go
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Fab. Voted for most of these. "Late Night" was my #1 I seem to recall.
Assumed "No Good Trying" was uber-popular but fondness for Soft Machine might've skewed my worldview.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
"Dark Globe" was pretty clearly a big influence on Wall/TFC-era Roger. Believe he has said he used to sing it to himself in the bath.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd03-opel.jpg
#3 - Opel203 points, 6 votes, 3 number ones
http://youtu.be/ioyZ5ESV-bU
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link
Can't believe after all these years I've never bothered to find out what Syd's paintings looked like! Great job with these, Telecom.
Opel was my #1, truly such a bizarre, warped song.
― 30 seconds to the return of bruno (Spectrist), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
"Opel" was also my #1. So strikingly beautiful - hard to believe it sat unreleased for so long.
― KCB (Kent Burt), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
Scary to imagine how many "Opel"s have been lost to the world.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd02-baby_lemonade.jpg
#2 - Baby Lemonade227 points, 8 votes
http://youtu.be/_HK6-vE3jHk
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
http://www.quartzcity.net/ilx/pf_poll/syd01-octopus.jpg
#1 - Octopus269 points, 9 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/m_6PhexCMow
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Too bad more people didn't compile a Syd list. I expected ILM peeps would be into that... Nice collection of songs, though.
― KCB (Kent Burt), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
I just didn't know enough... plan on fixing that soon. I have the 2LP of Barrett and Madcap Laughs, am I correct that the only other major record is Opel, or is there more?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
That's basically it. There's a Peel Sessions EP and "Bob Dylan Blues" on a best of...
― KCB (Kent Burt), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
Main event tomorrow
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
forgot to vote. oh yeah better place, just saying
― r. bean (soda), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
It's a damn shame that no recordings of Stars, Syd's very last band from 1972, seem to have survived. They played at least six gigs, several were recorded, and those tapes may still exist but their whereabouts are unknown. A possible exception is a show they played with Hawkwind in Jan. 1972 that the Easy Action label purchased from EMI archives and says they will issue this spring. At this point they called themselves the Last Minute Put Together Boogie Band, which is an accurate description of what the band was. Fred Frith from Henry Cow joined in on one date, maybe the one that survived. They played several old Floyd tunes including "Lucifer Sam", although another source claims there's no Syd-penned songs on the half-hour-long reel. In any case, this would be two years later than any other Syd recording any of us have heard which makes it an exciting prospect. That's all I know about it.
― meet 'bronos' -- (Lee626), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link
Last Minute Put Together Boogie Band is a pretty goddamn great name
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link
"Stay" (my #5) their most uncharacteristic song I can think of, especially being only one album removed from DSotM. Am i forgetting one?
― Lee626, Thursday, 20 March 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/all-165-pink-floyd-songs-ranked-from-worst-to-best.html
way too favorable to the waters era.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
very boring safe list. "Wish You Were Here" is ok but ive never been impressed with it. something about the internal rhyming makes me think they were just trying to cop Barrett's 1967 mwriting style to re-create Astronomy Domine
"See Emily Play" is the best Floyd imo and one of the best pop singles of all time
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
Weird list. Spends half the time droning on about how he doesn't like Syd then puts Bike right up there. Very pedestrian ratings otherwise. Think "prefers 79 Floyd to 67 Floyd" is the biggest flag that I am living in a different musical universe to someone.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
the pink floyd group i'm part of has been ripping it to shreds since it's been published. something might come out of it. stay tuned.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 5 August 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
atonal bashings and funny sound effects in soi-disant psychedelic happenings in Swinging London, most of it of little or no aesthetic interest this many years on.
When criticism becomes marketing - part x of infinity.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 5 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
I respect the Barrett amen corner; but the plain truth is that it’s hard to come up with one Barrett song that’s as good as, say, “Waterloo Sunset” or even “Pictures of Matchstick Men.”
I want to throttle whoever wrote this, the wrongest sentence of rock criticism ever written.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 5 August 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
I always say that inventing progressive rock was probably a dumb idea, but it was Pink Floyd’s dumb idea. One of the Spinal Tap ironies is that they weren’t that good at it!
oh do shut up
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
this list was made by a person for whom PINK FLOYD RULES was not a governing idea
it's so fussy and granular and uuuuuugh even the songs i like the joy has been sucked out
dancing to architecture at its finest :/
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
Spinal Tap was actually really good at what they did
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
Before I read the piece, the posted quotes made me think, "hm, this sounds like it was written by- [clicks link] yep, that fuckin' idiot."
He was one of the original co-hosts of Sound Opinions when it started as a radio show in the '90s. At one point, the subject of the AACM/Art Ensemble of Chicago came up, and Wyman said, "Yeah, free jazz, that's where the musicians just do whatever they feel like and they don't listen to each other." Greg Kot kept trying to cut him off to save Wyman from embarrassing himself further, but he kept going in that vein until a defeated-sounding Kot cut to commercial.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 August 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
Hot take: I absolutely adored that list. Not the order, or even the viewpoints, but the observations were engaging, often hilarious and steeped in 40 years of all of us living with this band. I loved how he broke down how Waters wrote fragments to give himself more writing credits, and hence, more publishing (a trick he says Gilmour learned later on) -- and how that contributed to the many band problems. I love how he's kind of on the fence in a lot of places as to whether he even cares for the band that much (a view that I share). And I like how he was unashamed to go through every fucking note the band played in often painstaking detail and then put a top 5 together that every dipshit waving a lighter would agree with.
Some highlights:
“Sorrow": Again, we have the droney sounds with some Gilmourian ruminations up top, again going on for minutes. Then comes something like a beat, which on inspection comes from a poorly programmed friendly local synthesizer rather than, you know, the band’s actual drummer. ...104. “Corporal Clegg,” A Saucerful of Secrets (1968): This is a downright comical example of how bad Pink Floyd was immediately post-Barrett. ...100. “Learning to Fly,” A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987): I hate this song for the same reason I hate “Owner of a Lonely Heart” or Permanent Vacation: It’s an overproduced, fraudulent piece of commercial crap designed to distract people from the fact that, while the name of the band on the label hasn’t changed, the creative people behind the music have....From the live Astronomy Domine on Ummagumma: “This is a Barrett song, so it has more energy and melody than most Floyd excursions like this. But also listen to Wright’s contribution, coming between the four- and five-minute marks. This is not a dynamic player.”...Shine On 6-9 (this is a particularly good one): The first five parts of “Shine On” kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another four parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last two parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Richard Wright’s clavinet away from him, too....Meanwhile, Richard Wright’s contributions to the band had become marginal. As the band had to hustle to get The Wall ready for a 1979 release, Wright bridled at losing some of a planned vacation. (Note that it had been two-and-a-half years since Animals had come out.) Waters fired him — or rather, made his manager fire him, a great rock-star dick move — and the other band members, with one eye on their suffering bank accounts, went along. Amazingly, the band hired Wright back as a session player for the shows. In his autobiography, Nick Mason notes that Wright was in fact the only person who made money on that tour;...Sheep: “This is accompanied by some appropriate and long-overdue actual rock at the end — Gilmour pulls a great-sounding guitar sound out of his ass — and you can even hear Mason breaking a sweat. (Sometimes you actually feel for Waters when it comes to his lazy bandmates.)”
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104. “Corporal Clegg,” A Saucerful of Secrets (1968): This is a downright comical example of how bad Pink Floyd was immediately post-Barrett.
100. “Learning to Fly,” A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987): I hate this song for the same reason I hate “Owner of a Lonely Heart” or Permanent Vacation: It’s an overproduced, fraudulent piece of commercial crap designed to distract people from the fact that, while the name of the band on the label hasn’t changed, the creative people behind the music have.
From the live Astronomy Domine on Ummagumma: “This is a Barrett song, so it has more energy and melody than most Floyd excursions like this. But also listen to Wright’s contribution, coming between the four- and five-minute marks. This is not a dynamic player.”
Shine On 6-9 (this is a particularly good one): The first five parts of “Shine On” kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another four parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last two parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Richard Wright’s clavinet away from him, too.
Meanwhile, Richard Wright’s contributions to the band had become marginal. As the band had to hustle to get The Wall ready for a 1979 release, Wright bridled at losing some of a planned vacation. (Note that it had been two-and-a-half years since Animals had come out.) Waters fired him — or rather, made his manager fire him, a great rock-star dick move — and the other band members, with one eye on their suffering bank accounts, went along. Amazingly, the band hired Wright back as a session player for the shows. In his autobiography, Nick Mason notes that Wright was in fact the only person who made money on that tour;
Sheep: “This is accompanied by some appropriate and long-overdue actual rock at the end — Gilmour pulls a great-sounding guitar sound out of his ass — and you can even hear Mason breaking a sweat. (Sometimes you actually feel for Waters when it comes to his lazy bandmates.)”
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
I listened to their seventies albums.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
so you’re saying I should sell my copy of The Wall then
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 13 December 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link
for kindling
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link
Alfred OTM.
― It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 08:44 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5uuhkS4j8
^^^ ideal for mornings
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link
Preferring the A Collection of Great Dance Songs version of “Money” to the original is quite a “challop” as they used to say around here.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
I like great dance songs.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
wait, how is "san tropez" spelled?
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
Saint-Tropez, no?
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
Fully agree with Alfred's choices. But what about Atom Heart Mother and its release date of Oct 70?
― doug watson, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
Oh I see, you've limited it to 71-79. And yet, what about AHM? Above or below The Wall?
― doug watson, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
oh yeah, i guess it is st-tropez
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link