The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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what a bad joke

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

god i can just imagine pauline kael congratulating herself after every line of that review

not that she's entirely wrong, but it's 95% opinion, 5% description, and a few too many puns

amateurist0, Monday, 17 April 2006 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Alien is not an action movie.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

With all the smoke in this movie, you feel as if everyone connected with it needs to have his flue cleaned.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously that's like the worst pauline kael review ever... and not at all because i disagree with her

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah sometimes when i read her i'm reminded of where all maureen dowd's worst attributes come from. i also can't think of a single sci-fi film she really liked (altho if she hadn't retired she might've raved up mission to mars).

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

(still luv u tho, pauline.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

massive xpost

also kenan you sound like an ass

Well, Alien is a horror film, not an action film, so maybe you're onto something. But you sound like an ass most of the time, too.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I just watched the Sopranos, and all I can hear in my BRANE is Carmela reading that review.


Try it out, it's UNCANNY.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

So let's have some more love for Trumbull and Mead and that lot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

mega x-post

also a lot of her reasons for disliking the movie were part of its strength! it really is a visual movie, despite the powerful score and quotable dialogue. 'the design is the statement", etc. IIRC she didnt like 2001 either.

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

it's hard to imagine how they could have telegraphed the message "DECKERT IS A REPLICANT" any clearer than the edward james olmos character placing the unicorn origami figure outside his apartment. i am impressed by the *economy* of this motif though--they don't overdo it.

Yes! I always thought this was clear too, yet have heard a lot of people argue against it, though with no footing, mostly "He can't be!" Get one ability to follow metaphor? I don't know.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah sometimes when i read her i'm reminded of where all maureen dowd's worst attributes come from. i also can't think of a single sci-fi film she really liked (altho if she hadn't retired she might've raved up mission to mars).

-- gypsy mothra (meetm...), April 17th, 2006.

otm!

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

well if she didn't like sci-fi she didn't like sci-fi, what can you do.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there any major critic that does like sci fi?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link

well, jonathan rosenbaum named blade runner one of the 15 best films of the decade.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Ebert!

(altho if she hadn't retired she might've raved up mission to mars).


oh man that movie

*begin digression*

mission to mars is soooo bad. we saw on it on my brother's b-day and he was so exasperated at the movie and its retardedness that when the alien hologram thingie shed a tear he burst out laughing in the crowded theater, making a bunch of others laugh with him. god bless my brother.

and goddamn the amount of eye shadow gary sinise wears in this movie.

*end digression*

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I cannot score Rosenbaum. He's so inconsistent and so in love with the idea of reviewing movies that he seldom bothers to review them.

Ebert!

Ebert gave this movie three stars. He did not understand it at all.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

he likes Sci-Fi though. that was all i was saying.

i think in one of his reviews he admitted he prolly would have rated it higher if he was reviewing it nowadays.

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

oh man. now i want to watch Ghost in the Shell, only because it's one of the three videos I have at my parents' house.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I will never forgive Ebert for giving Brazil two stars and defending his position for 20+ years.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

When we finally saw Batman Begins last year, there's a scene where the tubby sidekick is in the rain, wearing a trenchcoat, getting something to eat that looks like japanese food from a cart vendor. I remarked that it looked straight out of BR, and lo and behold:

Before the shooting began, Christopher Nolan invited the whole film crew to a private screening of Blade Runner (1982). After the film he said to the whole crew, "This is how we're going to make Batman."

kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

and yet batman begins is otherwise very unbladerunnery

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to say, that story simultaneously makes me go "Cool!" and then think, "Er, wait."

Though they do both have Rutger Hauer. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:21 (eighteen years ago) link

and yet batman begins is otherwise very unbladerunnery

very true, but the scene seemed so close

kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

hauer pauer

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link

On the DVD for Magnolia, there's a bit where Anderson screens Network for the crew as inspiration. So maybe it's just a Hollywood ritual where the director makes everyone watch his favorite movie before shooting begins, whether it has any point or not.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

um... you think we just figured this out right now?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I was in the Bradbury Building AND Union Station a couple weeks ago.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated, unlike the supposedly more "advanced" shit CGI we get 10-20 years later

kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

i was criticizing her writing, smuggo

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:31 (eighteen years ago) link

ARGH fuck a critic disquisition, BACK TO FILM.

http://www.itsvery.net/BladeRunner/Tyrell%20Office02.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated, unlike the supposedly more "advanced" shit CGI we get 10-20 years later

-- kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (jdsalmo...), April 17th, 2006.

otfm! like 2001 and the first two Alien movies, it really holds up amazingly compared to other movies in the genre, then and now.

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

has anyone evaluated scott as an action director?

I didn't care for Black Hawk Down that much, but it wasn't because of Scott - if anything his work was the one thing I liked about it.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I WANT MORE LIFE

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

FUCKER

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

More human than human

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

well, seems they show up on every film thread and are spoken of in largely positive terms, this is a rare one where people seem to see through their bs

xpost

sorry, Ned, others brought it up

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated

As I said upthread: "The visuals. God, what visuals. They do not age, which is point of discussion in itself. This movie should look dated, but it doesn't. Why?"

Maybe because, apart from the special effects it employs, it borrows so much from noir that it doesn't age? And that the city shots are so borrowed from every other futurescape ever (Metropolis especially) that they're more like amalgams of futurity than original visions?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

also the color scheme, lighting, smoke, etc. make it a lot harder to see the seams in the opticals.

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely, but that's a stroke of genius by itself. The future will have smog, because the present certainly does. There are many nights when I look at a hazy Chicago skyline and think, "That looks so Blade-Runner-y."

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

but this is all...academic

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i still gotta see black hawk down

what would this movie have been like if tony had directed it?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

hoo boy
but this is all...academic

I don't know what you mean. Please explain why talking about this movie is academic.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link

on the character-actor front, blade runner features probably the best work of the late brion james.

http://www.soniguales.com/fotos/LeonKowalski.jpg

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

hi kenan fyi when i said you sounded like an ass i was referring not to your "alien" comment but to this: "I once broke up with a girl because she didn't understand the dove"

i mean, i know, comic exaggeration and all, but it's still comes from a pretty ass-y place.

amateurist0, Monday, 17 April 2006 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost: in fact there's a whole bunch of people whose best movie is blade runner: sean young, edward james olmos, rutger hauer, william sanderson. daryl hannah? probably.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, how about this -- I once broke up with a girl when I was 20 years old because we had a two-hour conversation about Blade Runner during which she made it abundantly clear to me that she was not as smart as I am, or indeed most people I knew at the time. This was not a long or significant relationship. Better?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

(that's written by the brilliant sarah gailey btw)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

oh I was thinking you’d just watched 2049

carry on

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:31 (one year ago) link


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