it's both of those things surely, not exclusively, or with any of the implied disparagement that gets attached to those concepts
thread is an interesting time capsule. I don't get the need to define irony so narrowly here, or to treat it as a dirty word. or the need to justify what DP is doing in futurist/progressive terms (feels v brit music press) to defend it from accusations of revivalism (clearly the worst thing music could be back then)
― Left, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link