Jay-Z / Nas hip-hop throw down? & other throw-downs?

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Me, I just like the new Jay-Z album besides it sounds like what happens when a man with more money than sense thinks he's god. Entertainment! As pure a cocaine delusion experience as you'll get in these sad times, and it's sickeningly pretty to boot.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The songs are all gorgeous, he's got the production of the gods, at the very least.

― Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh, and noteworthy news: The Blueprint has been pushed up yet another week to September 11th (from original date of September 25th) due to bootlegging. Hopefully this doesn't imply last minute switch outs like it did last time...

― Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm going to make this short if THE GOD M.C. HOLDS HIS OWN SPITTIN WIT THE WHITE GOD M.C. (eminem) ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS GREATNESS WILL BE ANSWERED. BECAUSE NOONE CAN SPIT LINE FOR LINE WIT EMINEM AND GET HIGHLIGHTS.

― Ha Ha Ha you'll never know, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

True.

― Greg, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why can't threads about the Strokes and Atomic Kitten be more like this? Where are we going wrong?

Heard the single today at least - very good stuff. Very very good.

― Tom, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

After listening to the BLUEPRINT (again and again!!!) I have decided that it is classic material. Yes Illmatic may be better a better ablum but Jay's new shit is classic ***** (five star) material. Check out "All I need" and "The RUler's Back" for examples. NAS 's biggest problem was getting involved in the playa shit. His last best joints were from "It was written" I know that Nas can spit, but is it tooooo late for him to catch up? Second, does anyone really think tat Jada, Jayo felony and Charlie (i'm only around b/c I fucked Biggie) Baltimore can really handle Jay??? I don;t think so! I think the Nas / Jay Z battle is the best thing for a watered down hip-hop nation. Maybe you younger cats will get the opportunity to get classic material from the top mc's like we did from the KRS v. Juice Crew battles.

ONE

― D. BLACK, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why can't threads about the Strokes and Atomic Kitten be more like this?

First the Strokes and Atomic Kitten would have to be as entertaining as Jay-Z, see. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, if Atomic Kitten would just cooperate and have an old skool throwdown with All Saints, we could get somewhere.

― Ally, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yoyoyo, i wanted to let all you real ass loc'z , they still some of us ridin for pac and da outlawz...screw all dis commercial bull gon on rite now, if pac was here, he'd blow shit up. look man, i from kweenz i aint even liking dis shit , -SAPAVELLI DA DON SAP AL SAPONE!

― sapavelli tha don, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Man listen R.O.C we running this rap shit Jay hova 6 albums Nas 4 Jay- Z first album 1996 Nas first album 1993

― Stan Cunningham, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Upper West Side has destroyed my brain, because I have no idea what those last two posts are on about.

― Ally, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If it's implying that Pac wasn't commercial and Jay Z's better than Nas because he's made more albums and shit then I don't understand it either.

― Greg, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Okay, so we got the same thing from it, I'm not just being a moron.

PS The Takeover is some fucking great shit, I can't stop listening to it.

― Ally, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is for that idiot that said that 2Pac is the greatest of all time. How many records did Pac sell off his first two albums? How many did Biggie sell? Thank you! Don't compare all of 2Pac's albums to Biggie's 2.

― Smokey, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't know exactly why Nas is dissin Hov but I don't think he's hatin like dem other cats(Prodigy & Jay-O Felony). Dem cats ain't got shit, won't be shit. Nas does have something to prove. His first album is considered a classic by almost everyone but it didn't even go gold. After that he's been trying to flip his style to sell more records. What happened though, these fools were crazy tight. Jig was always shouting out Nas in his songs. "Niggas argue all day about who's the best MC, Biggie, Jay-Z or Nas" , "Tits firm like Nas, Nature, Fox and A-Z". It's crazy. "Some how the rap game reminds me of the crack game". Jay-Z does look like a prophet. He said in vol. 1 "Don't worry about Brooklyn I'll continue your fame...you held it down long enough, let me take those reigns". He's held it down like no other since Biggie left. In vol.2 he said "I'll sell mo records than Will Smith" Will was second to Hov. Everyone's talking about NYC best but no mention of DMX.

― Smokey, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Does DMX ride a BMX?

― DG, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yo Did YALL HEAR THE BLUEPRINT???? JAY HELD IT DOWN AND IS STILL THE HOTTEST NIGGA IN THE STREETS HE PROVED HIMSELF ONCE AGAIN. SO NIGGAS NEED TO STOP HATIN(jada,prodigy)CAUSE TO ME KISSTHAGAMEGOOD-BYE WAS A DISSAPOINTMENT AND DIDNT EVEN GO GOLD AND HE PLAYED NAS THE FUCK OUT ON TRACK #2(YOU WENT FORM TOP TEN TO NOT BEING METIONED AT ALL TILL YOR BODY GAURDS VERSE ON OOCHI WALLIE WAS BETTER THAN YOURS MATER OF FACT YOU HAD THE WORSE VERSE ON THE WHOLE FUCKIN SONG!!!)

― , Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

First of all to say Prodigy ain't got shit, Mobb Deep's Infamous album is considered just as classic as Illmatic. Check Shook Ones Pt 2. Anyway, Roc-A-Fella will get fucked six ways from sunday in a battle against QB. Period. Prodigy will respond, like with any conflict, the one you hear most recent seems to be the best. Just wait. And also no producer Jay-z gets is half as sick as Havoc.

― jesse smith, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Can I just say I'm down with the fact, learnt today, that Jay-Z's pushed up release now competes directly with Mariah's new "opus", Glitter? TAKE THE BITCH DOWN. I'll buy two copies to fuck with that girl.

― Ally, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anyone out there who believes that Nas' verse to Jay on Stillmatic is close to Jay's verse (or song) to him is crazy. All questions about who the God MC is should be answered from song number 2 on The Blueprint. There is no comparison. No one has the total package like Jay. None!! How can anyone speak Nas' name in the same sentence. Like Jay said...He has a "One-hot-album-every-ten-year- average"! Career over...Lights out N___as

― MainmanSean, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Blue Print Is SICK!! Nas has to go back to the drawing Board..HOVA will have a 5 mic classic this time around.

― Will C, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Okay, I reviewed the album, but I'm too lazy to summarize or repost so just go here if you want to discuss what I thought of it with me.

― Ally, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yo was up if you ask me nas is just pissed of seeing jay-z fake ass face on tv. my best advice for jay-z is to not answer back to nas diss because if he does nas will destory him. nas lyrics are too powerfull to compare with jay-z. my best advice for jay-z is before he decide to answer back listen to nas joinz like e.g. the message, the firm bizz, if i ruled the work, nas is like to let him know that he is going against a very hard mutherfucken hore rapper

― MedEsco, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Who cares if Pac's first 2 albums didn't sell as much as Big. Pac and Big were not gods because of their albums. They were gods because of their charisma. Pac was a revolutionary who has sold more records(33 mil) than any rapper ever (Mc Hammer/Will Smith are second with 20 mill and then big with 16 mill). Type in Tupac in any web browser and see how many fuckin hits you get. Then type in big and see how many you get. No contest muhphukas. Pac is a phenomenon.

― Don Juan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ohmigoodness, did'ja hear Jay-Z's NEWEST comeback record to Nas? No, not "The Takeover" on The Blueprint, but he's got a new one that I'm banking will shut "Nasty" Nas up good; it's called "I Will Not Lose", and here's a sample:

"...niggas wanna play Hov' for pussy / I'll grab you by your fuckin' chipped tooth and send you home, you wussy / Talkin' bout, "Nas Is Like", I'll rob you of your life / You better just drop the mic / Or I'll murder you with this pocketknife / Hov' stay gutter / Hoes won't mutter / When I melt Escobitch like homemade butter..."

If ya'll ain't heard it by NOW, ya' better cop the MP3...Nas is aiight, but Hov' is the GOD! Undoubtedly, he is nice like librarians at closing time. Holla!

― Danny "Puffy" Swain, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"I'll murder you with this pocketknife" sounds like something I've said to someone before.

― Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've written better rhymes than that.

― Greg, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But wait, there's more! Peep the second verse:

"...feminist women love Jigga Man / Chikka-chikka look at Nas Esco, I'm sick of him / Look at him / Walkin' around with fake answers and all / I'll throw him cancerous barbs / Yeah, but he's so wack though / I got a pitbull that eats sheep and spits wool / And chews on Nasty Nas's flesh until its stomach gets full / This nigga skipped school / Barely went to class, thinkin' shit's cool Hid a loaded pistol under this retarded kid's stool..."

I'm tellin' you, Hov' is gutter like a bowling alley. Peep the REAL Blueprint LP, due next week! Holla!

― Danny "Puffy" Swain, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why don't you just admit that you're Ja Rule?

― ALly, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Admit that I'm Ja Rule? I don't get it, ALly.

― Danny "Puffy" Swain, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Holla, Puffy.

― Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what sond did jay sample nas on, i cant remember. the blueprint is thowed as hell. he got in nas's ass. i think people dis nas more than he deserves. nastradamus was garbage, but I am was not bad. what do yall think about jada, cuz it seems like he gets no props. i think his shit was hot. what s this i hear about jay z being a faggot, is that true, cuz im hearin it a lot. oh yeah, one more thing, listen for that new nelly song"Number 1" that is the worst rap shit ever played on the radio, finally his fame is up.

― houstons finest, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jigga Man sampled Nas's "The World Is Yours" for his own "Dead Presidents II". You heard him on "The Takeover": "...you made it a hot line / I made it a hot song..." Die-hard Jay-Z fan in the house! And remember, peep the new Jigga song "I Will Not Lose" as I posted earlier. Holla!

― Danny "Puffy" Swain, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jay-z is not gay, thats just a rumor that people spread.

― , Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i think this is a good beef, i jus hope they keepit on wax... stillmatic was hard and so was the takeover, but neither nas or H.O.V.A. can see Pac... Pac was and is the king of the dis song (see hit em up, bomb first, and against all odds).

― Kev Davis, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

canibus ripped ll witht the 2001 freestyle

― Brian Erwin, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

With all this beef going on there should be nobody hungry foreal,but any way I think the only way to solve who's the best MC is to get them all on stage or ring with one mic and let it all out. Keep it gangsta with yo skills not the steel cause there's to many Mc's being rememberd. There all the best to me on different levels,but don't forget my mans and nem X !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Rell_Flava, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yo lets get shit straight...Nas fell off after Illmatic..hes not number two..hes not number three..shit he ain't even in the top twenty...Jay got mad commercial after reasonable doubt but he was still doin the businessman thing by puttin on the club-bangers..but i personally had no respect for him as a rapper...he was still definitely the strongest lyricist in the game..i just wasnt feelin what he was saying..however...all u rap gods gotta cop the blueprint...that shit is reasonable doubt status...aint nobody touchin him right now...regardless of the haters trying to holla..Nas is wack...that rhyme he spit was hot tho...maybe if he could consistently spit some hot shit he wouldnt have fallen off so damn hard...btw...Beanie killed Jada but Jada is definitely the tighter rapper overall...Holla!...ONE

― Chris LastName, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that retarded kid's stool joke on nas' 'sneak an uzi on the island' line is hype.

― ethan, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yo check i'm from cali, and i just heard about the jay z and nas beef when i copped the blue print. . .but i think over all nas is way iller then Jay Z, he might of fell off but he will be topping the charts agian. yeah, but nas battle flow was way iller then jayz diss.

― Edwin JOHNSON, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nas sucks, the only rappers holding it down in QB is Prodigy,Kool G Rap, Cormega and Tragedy khadafi. Nas diss sucked. Jay-Z killed him on the takeover.

― The Don, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The way i see it....Lyrically there is no way in this lifetime Hova can ever match up to nas! Although jay-z has thrown out albums consecutivly the feud is rediculos. If you asked me the only album im feeling from jay-z and nas is both there first ones. Jay-z is commercial while nas you have to shit back and think about where hes coming from. All in all, this feud will play out very dirty. Cause niggahs both in queens and brooklyn dont give a fuck. Real niggahs do real things!

One

― The Realness, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

THERE ARE NOTHING WRONG WIT NAS & JIGGA FIRST AND FOREMOST I LIKE TO SAY TO NAS HES A TRUE HATER SO AS JADA,PRODIGYAND SO AS FAT JOE BUT WHAT IT IS IM A TRUE JAY-Z FAN, THEY PROBALY SAYIN SHIT BOUT JAY-Z CAUSE THEY GOT NUTTIN GOOD ALL THEY SHIT IZ WEAK 4REAL AND JIGGA JUST RELEASE HIS NEW ALBUM CALLED THE BLUEPRINT 4SHO AND IF U HEARD DA ALBUM OH GOT DA ALBUM LISTEN TO TRACK 2 THATS DA SHIT WHEN HE DISSED MOBBDEEP AND NAS,HE SMASH DAT SINGLE ITS CALLED TAKEOVER HE KILLED THEY SHIT BUT ITS NOT DAT NAS HAVENT COME OUT WITH NUTTIN GOOD YET DATS HOT WELL DATS Y THEY STRIKING ON THE ROC CAUSE THEY ON TOP AND THEY AINT GOT NUTTIN HOT AFTER BIG BEEN A WAY JIGGA HAS BEEN DA BESTU KNOW .

― JERRY JEAN, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jay-Z and Nas are two good rappers. I think their is nothing wrong in saying what you want about another person as long as yall don't through hands. People buy and listen to there music everyday and there's nothing wrong with what they are doing. Both of them getting there money and they never stop doing what they love to do. This is a way of expressing themselves to the rap game.

Holla

― Jay-Lo, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

DAMN MOTHERFUCKERS! Nigga Are Talking shit about this niggaz when they all are tight. Jay- z Ran The rap Game Like He Say. Nas is mad because he know he should have been the man that had thegme on lock beause his the best pure rapper, but Hova is a better at hustling getting with he wants. jadakiss is my nigga but he not that type that could be King of the rap game, he's more of a knight, as for Beanie Sigel his tight i like him but he can't be Compare To Jay, Kiss or Nas He not on there Level. their in College And Beanie and memphis, Sp, Sheek and the rest of the brave Heart are in High school. Prodigy Then Lost has Fucking Mind Taking Shots at jay, what the fuck was he thinking. Dmx is the realest down to earth nigga but not really lyrically deep. Really the only to Rapper the qualify as being the King is Jay and Nas, but Jay Out Standing record of deeping dope got him the crown, Nas just Trying To Restore his name and one day after doping 2 dope album that better than Jay-z(which i may add will be hard as heel to do) can steal the crown as King of the rap game. I HAD TO EDUCATE YOU FUCKERS!

― TAZMA, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nas is going to eat jay z for breakfast ya heard

― big law, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nas sucks big ass dick!! He was never hot, and never will be. He can't rap for shit, he aint' touchin jay-z so fuck that. But that does'nt matter cuz the best fucking rapper ever is still and always be Tupac Shakur mothafuckas

― Michael, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Some people just take this "commercial" thing too far. Regardless of who it is, people rap about life. Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt were some untouchable ass albums we can all agree on that one. However, it was their first albums so they rap about their lives (i.e. drugs and thuggin out). Not to much mentioning of iced out chains and expensive cars because they couldn't afford all that. They can now, so they've earned the right to rap about all that because it's a trophy to them. Bottom line of it all, some people are gonna love what you do, some people are gonna hate what you do. Just make sure that there are more people that love what you do. -Champagne James

― Champagne James, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jay-Z ripped Nas and Mobb Deep on his new CD!!! That nigga is everywhere and got the game on lock without a doubt!!!

― Jeremiah Erby, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

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― 39p5tasefhai, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

Just head to part four.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

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