Brian Eno - C or D?

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I don't understand how anyone could be so hostile toward before and after science. I don't much like the first couple songs but c'mon, the second side is beautiful. julie with? by this river? these are undeniable!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

absolutely, anthony. the second side of before + after science is the music i'd like to hear in my dreams.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

and you forgot the climax. through hollow lands. there we arrive in a land where nobody has ever been. between dream and enlightenment. i could listen to this for the rest of my life on repeat.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a new Fripp/Eno CD

dleone (dleone), Friday, 23 July 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

That's right, I remember reading that one was in the works. I'm not too optimistic about it, but as soon as anyone hears it, please give a response.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 23 July 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't understand how anyone could be so hostile toward before and after science. I don't much like the first couple songs but c'mon, the second side is beautiful. julie with? by this river? these are undeniable!

It is the only 70's eno record I do not care for. I just felt the production was not quite up to snuff, he polished it too much. Everything Eno did no that record he did better on previous albums. I found it funny that I did not care for the record, and unbeknownst to me Eno actually echoed my complaints when he discussed that record in interviews in the late 70's.

It isn't a horrible record, it is just that he has a lot of material from that period of time and your money is better spent elsewhere in the back catalogue. And while I am thinking about it, you should probably pick up Cluster and Eno because that it good stuff.

Also, has anyone ever heard that the live The 801 bootleg from 76?

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Saturday, 24 July 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a half hour video of Paul Morley interviewing Brian Eno that went out on Channel 4 about ten years ago, it's fucking brilliant. I'll be BitTorrenting it as soon as I can devise a way of getting video tape into my iBook.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 24 July 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Nobody's mentioned the first Ultravox record and that's probably the one he'd like to forget too. Imagine if "My Sex" had been done by Japan, tho

dave q, Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"Why astigmatism?" I wondered.

"I'm terribly attracted to women with ocular damage."

Classic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, has anyone ever heard that the live The 801 bootleg from 76?

that's an official live album, is it not? i bought it a few months ago, it's great! the sound of the live recording is amazing. some terrific renditions of songs from another green world and taking tiger mountain (by strategy).

willem (willem), Saturday, 24 July 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm afraid I will have to get the new Fripp & Eno thing.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually listening to it right now. Fripp is playing really delicately on this, not sure I've heard him sound exactly like this before. "Lyra" is great. So far, not a disappointment at all.

dleone (dleone), Saturday, 24 July 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Utter classic. A lot of what I'd talk about has been covered, but if you can find the self-titled Cluster/Eno record, it is a BEAUTY.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Saturday, 24 July 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck it, just get the Cluster records w/out Eno. They were much better w/out his influence.

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Saturday, 24 July 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

The Cluster Thread

Fripp / Eno : The Equatorial Stars

(Jon L), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

(not to short-circuit further conversation about either subject on this thread, by any means)

(Jon L), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So, this thread did inspire me to get some Eno, in answer to Douglas' question above. I've never heard any before, and am not even familiar with most of his production work.

I've downloaded Taking Tiger Mountain, Warm Jets, and Another Green World. The first two are still keeping me at a distance. Another Green World came through without a track order, so I listened to it at first in alphabetical order, without knowing that it wasn't the correct version. I LOVED it; a wonderful album. Then I discovered that it was mixed up and resorted the songs; I HATED it! blech. Starting with Sky Saw, St Elmos Fire at the start... it didn't work for me.

I'm really happy with my version, though. Try it; I'd love to know what people who know the real version think of the reorder:

Another Green World
Becalmed
Everything Merges With the Night
Golden Hours
I'll Come Running
In Dark Trees
Little Fishes
Over Fire Island
Sky Saw
Sombre Reptiles
Spirits Drifting
St. Elmo's Fire
The Big Ship
Zawinul/Lava

derrick (derrick), Monday, 9 August 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't that just alphabetical order?

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 9 August 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Incidentally I have listened to it in that order and the original ordering (and the only 'correct' order IMO) is much more satisfying to listen to.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 9 August 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/magazine/04funny_humor.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

man like simon reynolds linked to this. it's v funny. i don't think the people in it are rockists.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I was in the pub last night and somebody put one of the bonus tracks on Love's "Forever Changes" on the jukebox. This was like 15 minutes of the band trying to play "Your Mind and We Belong Together". This consisted of the band playing the opening bars to the song and Arthur Lee stopping them and getting them to do it again and occasionally berating the guitarist - by the 7th or 8th time this happened, people in the bar were beginning to get pretty annoyed

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic up to and including "Before And After Science" and his work with Bowie. Dud thereafter (but still classic as a composer, and on his collaboration with David Byrne)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ew I hate Brian Eno, he ruins everything he touches (equatorial stars is actually okay, even if only obviously because of fripp).

Also Reynolds in utterly misunderstanding a simple concept shockah. What exactly do you suppose a Lester Bangs puff piece is the hallmark of?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I rest my case!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rqbzgSp0pow

am0n, Thursday, 12 June 2008 06:07 (fifteen years ago) link

classic

http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2003/0120/cover/view_eno.html

Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

love that TIME article by Eno, read it when it came out & it still holds up well :)

stephen, Thursday, 12 June 2008 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I just told someone recently a good bio on Eno would be really interesting. Well, here it is!

On Some Faraway Beach: The Life And Times of Brian Eno - David Sheppard

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Always Returning is so fucking beautiful.
Almost as godlike as Half Man Half Biscuit's 'Eno Collaboration'

Fer Ark, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I got the book in the mail last night. It's UK only, but got it from a seller via Amazon for domestic rates! It's a beautiful hardcover, over 450 pages. Here's a passage from the first chapter:

"...I was encouraged by Colin Newman, lead singer of the veteran post-punk band Wire and an acquaintance and long-term adherent of Eno's, whose pithy views on all things Brian resonated like a Greek chorus as I wrote the book. Possibly fearing I was another fixated, sanctimonious Enophile, Newman gave me some salutary words of advice: 'I think we need to reclaim Eno from the Eno nerds. There's a lot of nasty train-spotting involved with the Eno fanbase. Brian needs to have his place, sure, but he's not a saint, nor is he a professor. He's a bunch of things, one of which -- and I say this in the most friendly and supportive way -- is an incredibly adept bullshitter. He's a brilliant opportunist.'"

Well put. And along with Lee Perry, he's been involved with nearly 25% of my all-time favorite albums from the 70s.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 June 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm less than 1/4 through and enjoying it thoroughly.

This review is a decent encapsulation.

http://www.fastnbulbous.com/eno_on.jpg

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 3 July 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

“the bottom is the large brain”

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 22 August 2008 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuckin' A.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Friday, 22 August 2008 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...
six months pass...

Has anyone seen or heard an Eno solo live show recently? Seems like he's been doing more speaking engagements than anything else. He's playing next month in LA.

society for cutting up (tricky), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

FFS it seems like it's a lecture after all. $100 to hear the man speak.

society for cutting up (tricky), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

cut the guy a break, it's not like he's been doing any high-profile, high-paying producing gigs of late ... ;)

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

they did Apollo live over For All Mankind in the Science Museum IMAX theatre recently and the first i heard about it was the review...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/22/brian-eno-apollo-review

koogs, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone seen or heard an Eno solo live show recently?

Not solo-solo, but he did a three-set directed improv show with The Necks, Karl Hyde, Jon Hopkins, Leo Abrahams and Tomato at the Sydney Opera House a few months ago. (Plus about three lectures, the 77 Million Paintings installation, and turning the sails into lava lamps for two weeks.)

miss pamela and the gtfo's (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

eno thing on bbc 4 tonight.

Crackle Box, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

So i only realised tonight why 4:40 onwards of this sounds so familiar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUIZvAe3RBg

its because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E76Oatpjn4

only made the connection because Jackson just went the whole hog and used Big Ship in the lovely bones.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/magazine/04funny_humor.html?_r=1

― Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:49 (11 months ago) Bookmark

fun anecdote. Just listening to "Thursday Afternoon" now - stunning! I really should pick up and READ that Eno book.

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Eno book is definitely worth a read, though obviously it gets a little less interesting once the 70s are over.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The biography? It's quite good.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I got "On Some Faraway Beach" in the summer just gone, when going through Ambiengt I to IV and Apollo. Didnt get past a couple of chapters 'cos I'd try and read whilst listening to his music.

More often than not, I'd end up just sitting there, staring out of the window at traffic and listening...

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

He'd appreciate it!

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ha!! actually, I'd also surf ILX often too... ILX - the ambient web....

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

decided today The Plateaux Of Mirror is the best hangover listen ever. just the right balance of tragic, comfort and quiet.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

tragic hangover

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 28 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to get the Budd collaborations. I'm very fond of Apollo soundtrack as a late night reading album.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

It's included in the doc soundtrack, which is out in April

sawdust lagoon, Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Eno doing the modest music for a Patriotic Millionaires video with super wealthy people imploring policymakers to tax the super rich: https://x.com/patrioticmills/status/1780717878796292150?s=46&t=4DK5sD-8gsSKFExcsnEJqg

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:05 (yesterday) link


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