What's your Thanksgiving timetable?

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OMG, what was I thinking ordering the XL turkey! It's 25 pounds and does not fit in my roasting pan! I'll be making up the pumpkin pudding tomorrow - time for a photo essay. That apple-cranberry pie sounds terrific, btw. Tell more about pumpkin challah?

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

We don't have a T'giving timetable this year -- the big get together is at one of my nephews' in-laws house this year, and we're just not going to mess with it. Going to Tupelo to see "The Fountain" and let someone else do the cooking.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone's coming over later this year - dinner at 6-ish instead of 1 or 2. Current internal debate raging: presbyterian rolls AND corn dodgers, or just the rolls? Also, something special for the vegetarians, but WHAT??

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it sounds like you'll be doing a lot of cooking already, so if you don't want to add another dish to the list then as a former veg i'd recommend a quorn roast turkey breast. otherwise i'd probably go for an indian dish, something that would complement autumnal flavors.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Lauren, I appreciate the suggestion and will seek the quorn! I now know better than to offer the overly cheezed lasagna, the gloppy mushroom risotto, the quiche, the stuffed acorn squash, because eggy cheesy starchiness, though appreciated, are not quite holiday enough. And not being a vegetarian myself, I'm never sure what meat alternative avenues to explore. I saw this stuff called field roast on the menu at the Elysian Brewery a few months ago that sounded interesting, but again, don't know enough about it.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

cool. quorn is so easy (into the oven it goes), and more importantly it actually looks/tastes reasonably like poultry.

if you google for nut roast recipes, you'll probably turn up a bunch of stuff. they have a reputation (in the uk, anyway) for being the ultimate humorless (and tasteless) vegetarian dish, but that rep is pretty outdated and i'm quite fond of them.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone was just going on and on about how awesome quorn is the other day. I've never had it.

The pumpkin challah is just challah with pumpkin. Let's see...

One envelope instant yeast, 1/2 tsp cardamom, 1/2 tsp ginger, 2/3 c (90g) bread flour, 2/3 c (140g) hot water. 20 minutes until bubbling. Then add 1/3 c (70g) sugar, 1/4 c (55g) oil, 1 1/2 tsp (8g) salt, an egg, 1/2 c (115g) pumpkin. Then the remaining 3c+2tbsp (410g) bread flour. Knead, let rise, shape, let rise again. Makes two 1 lb loaves or 1 1.5 lb loaf and 3 rolls. Glaze with egg wash and add sesame seeds. Cook (rolls 25, 1 lb for 40, 1.5 lb for 45 minute) at 350/180C/mark 4.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I baked a very large number of yams last night - they will be peeled and smashed with a copious amount of butter. Tonight - pumpkin pudding preparation and steaming. Also, turkey brining. The beast is so huge, I have to brine it in the Coleman ice chest. Mr. Jaq ran out to the restaurant supply store yesterday to get an industrial sized roasting pan, as my normal 20 quart oval one wasn't going to cut it.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, corrections to the pumpkin pudding recipe (bad idea to type it in all from memory...): either 2 cans of sweetened condensed milk or 2 cans of evaporated milk and 1.5 cups of sugar. I prefer sweetened condensed because it has a lovely caramel flavor already and it's less processed than straight evaporated milk. Add 1 tsp salt and double the amount of cinnamon and ginger (2 tsp cinnamon, 1 tsp ginger, 1/2 tsp nutmeg or mace, 1/2 tsp allspice or cloves).

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

is quorn not still made from proteins from battery hen eggs?

(sorry to piss on anyone's chips here, but when I was veggie I stopped eating it)

(yes yes, I once was veggie)

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I stopped eating it when I was a veggie for those reasons too.

(yes, yes, I was a veggie as well)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm - I thought it was made from fungus. Have to check the package labeling.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

quorn is mainly a fungus-derived protein, but it also contains a small amount egg whites so it's possible they use battery hens.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Aha! Wiki has this:

Quorn's uptake in the vegetarian market was hampered by the use of battery eggs in its production process, a practice opposed on ethical grounds by many vegetarians. For this reason, the Vegetarian Society initially did not approve these products. Working with the Vegetarian Society, Marlow began phasing out battery eggs in 2000, and by 2004 all Quorn products sold in the UK were produced without battery eggs, earning the seal of approval of the UK branch of the Vegetarian Society.

Note all the UK qualifiers.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to a Thanksgiving bash tomorrow so I'm taking some mulling spice ice-cream. It's dead easy to make - you just put a bag of spices in with the cream at the beginning, then keep it in the mix until you're about to pour the custard into the machine. Yumski.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

re: quorn - well, it doesn't say where the egg whites come from, but it's moot now anyway as the "vegetarian" children have declared they would like grilled salmon today please.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

It's time to REVIVE!

My current T'day schedule: hope and pray I get to go home on Tuesday 11/20.

Jaq, Saturday, 10 November 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

research paper due monday 11/19. everything thanksgiving to occur after that.

tehresa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm thinking t'day might get pushed back a bit later in the month this year.

Jaq, Saturday, 10 November 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Although, Mr. Jaq is picking up the turkey today. I went for a small one this year, after the fiasco of the giant bird last year.

Jaq, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

1 pm - go to chinese restaraunt and order $50 of food
2 pm - get home and get down

jergïns, Saturday, 10 November 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't invite anybody this year because of this goddamn job and the high probability of it fucking up my life. But when I get home, those cranberries better WATCH OUT.

Jaq, Sunday, 11 November 2007 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

our menu per my host: pumpkin fritters to start, then pumpkin and pea soup, lemon-honey glazed turkey and pumpkin cupcakes with vanilla cinnamon icing

i have changed the dessert to rosewater napoleon and added green beans. i think he chose too many pumpkin dishes.

tehresa, Sunday, 11 November 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link

anyway, i don't know what his recipe is for the turkey, but the other stuff seems not too labor/time-intensive, right?

tehresa, Sunday, 11 November 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Will the fritters be fried? (Can you bake them? I don't know the options.) That might be a bit labor intensive, if they can't be done much in advance. Pumpkin and pea soup sounds yummy, btw. But I think 2 pumpkin focused things are plenty in one meal. Also, green beans = yes please.

Jaq, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Jaq advised he got "a nice" turkey - 9.8 lbs of standard bronze heritage goodness. Much more manageable than last year's 25 lb behemoth.

Jaq, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

10-11am - everybody starts showing up at the farmhouse hauling foil-covered casseroles, crock pots, and various other serving dishes full of dumplings, roasts, cakes, casseroles (indeed), macaroni & cheese, greens, and ambrosia

noon - bell rings. uncle jerry says grace at the head of a long line of people I am ostensibly related to one way or another

2pm - everyone more fatter, thinking about seconds, wondering why aunt sally has such a thing about no booze at thanksgiving, 'cause a beer would be sweet

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Mmmm, ambrosia.

The thing to try to get around the no-booze rule: rum balls, or a rum cake absolutely dripping with dark rum. Not the same as a beer, but not bad.

Jaq, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

This morning: Wake up extra early, run to store, get eggs and various other ingredients, run home, make molasses cookies and peanut dip for today's pre-Tgiving "orphan's Thanksgiving" style party. All of which I have done with like an hour to spare.

Casuistry, Sunday, 11 November 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

well, i bought the wine and rosewater tonight, but it looks like everything else shopping- and prep-wise is happening on wednesday! eee the thought of the lines is not appealing considering how insane they were today.

tehresa, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 01:25 (sixteen years ago) link

omg! Tonight, I found out I actually get to go home for a few days tomorrow. Will be going to visit my MIL for t'day apparently, which I'm sure is the right thing to do, but I would so much rather just sit in my own apartment with my feet up, thinking about what I COULD cook if only I had the energy. I'll have 4 days in Seattle to be thankful for, at least, before I am returned to this sunny hellhole for as long as it takes to finish this fucking project.

Jaq, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Today I'm making pumpkin dinner rolls, cranberry sauce, maybe some mashed turnips and some similarly mashed potatoes. Some of which I'll have tonight and some of which I'll hopefully be sharing with someone tomorrow night.

Casuistry, Sunday, 12 October 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

But this is my 21st Thanksgiving as a vegetarian and I still haven't figured out a main dish that makes me happy.

Oh! And some brussels sprouts.

Casuistry, Sunday, 12 October 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Happy Canadian T-day! Are you going to have a US one as well? I'm very interested in your pumpkin dinner rolls.

Jaq, Sunday, 12 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I never did roast last year's turkey ;_;

I hope it is not too freezer-burnt for this year.

Jaq, Sunday, 12 October 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I am planning to have a US one as well. We'll see how the pumpkin dinner rolls turn out, they are rising very slowly.

Casuistry, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

What sorts of things have you tried as main dishes? I'm generally stymied by what makes a good holiday vegetarian main, and hate falling into the gigantic cheese-bomb casserole trap.

Jaq, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i am going to a vegetarian/vegan thanksgiving this year at my boyfriend's parents' house. my first ever thanksgiving!

Sarah Palin isn't dumb, she's post-modern (Rubyredd), Monday, 13 October 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone know what that non-Tofurkey veg turkey recipe was? J0hn D had it on his site way back when, I forgot to bookmark and have completely forgotten the name.

en i see kay, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it quorn? They make a turkey roast.

Jaq, Monday, 13 October 2008 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I've tried tofurkey, pasta/lasagna, nut loafs, and so on. I was thinking some sort of squash-and-tofu-on-rice dish might work.

The pumpkin rolls were ok, but something was a little off on them. Stupid internet recipes. But one of the comments said she added rosemary, which might have balanced it a bit more. Also they might taste better in the morning.

Casuistry, Monday, 13 October 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

It was some little company that made them, then went out of business and released the recipe on their website.

en i see kay, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i just realized the incredible difficulty presented by going to visit my little sister in dc for thanksgiving: i would not be able to go til wed night (i think) and she doesn't drive. wonder if i can convince her to plan ahead and buy a turkey (she's not good at this stuff) so we're not like 'WTF' on thursday.

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Monday, 13 October 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Can you order one and have it delivered? Might be simpler than hauling one home on the bus or something.

Jaq, Monday, 13 October 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

well, we will be taking over my other sister's house, which means that if she plans, she can get them to take her to the store and drive it home. this means she has to actually plan, though...

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

other sister and her husband will be in korea during festive times.

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, while standing in line @ the grocery store, I thought about Thanksgiving & got ANXIOUS at all of the work I'll have cut out for me. It's just me making all of the food, so I have to make a schedule. Doing a lot of stuff on the night before. Shudder.

Ai Lien, Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Write it all down and see where (if anywhere) you can simplify stuff. Everything you can do ahead of time (like weeks even), do it (freeze it or whatever). Like if you want to make a cake, make the layers now, wrap them tightly and freeze them, then they'll be ready to thaw and frost. Yeast rolls and bread - you can make ahead and either freeze the dough, or freeze the baked goods (again tightly wrapped).

The one place I consistently trip up - needing a particular pan or appliance for something when it is already in use by something else. Sometimes, you can make do, but other times creativity falls short at the last minute and that's really stressful.

Jaq, Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I TOTALLY write out the game plan. Too, no one, NO ONE is allowed in the kitchen. I'm starting to re-gain my confidence.

I am making a pumpkin cheesecake instead of pumpkin pie this year! Mmmmmmm. Too, Jaq, I am going to use your yeast roll recipe. I'm going to "practice" them this weekend. Should they turn out, I'll make a batch to freeze. Good tips, thanks!

Ai Lien, Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i would love to write out my game plan, if my sister would just settle on a location/general idea of what the hell we're doing!!! now she's talking about coming here!? i have no idea what's going on and this frustrates me because my life gets very busy and i just like to have things like this settled so i can organize what needs to get done!

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

my faaaaaavorite

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:24 (four months ago) link

The turkey went in the oven at 1pm; should be ready and resting at 4:30. At that point I start the potatoes (peeled and in water on the stove top) and put the fish (for my sister) in the oven. The asparagus is also ready for a quick steaming.

My guests are scheduled to arrive around 4pm; my mother's stuffing goes into the oven to warm up.

Officially everything is planned for 5pm, but my guests have not been fussy in the past. And a good thing; while I've done this before, so much of this has to be done at the last minute.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:01 (four months ago) link


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