mobb deep - c or d?

homey just said prodigy from mobb deep dropped a singer-songwriter

― johnny and luther (johnny and luther), Saturday, July 31, 2004 4:59 PM (9 years ago)

i have heard Prodigy say this April marks 20 years since The Infamous, but ... it doesn't. it's 19. unless I'm missing something?

stream the new one here
http://www.pandora.com/station/play/1932140457487230704

maybe this one http://www.pandora.com/station/play/1411412518987239135/8230260838111

i have heard Prodigy say this April marks 20 years since The Infamous, but ... it doesn't. it's 19. unless I'm missing something?

― alpine static, Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:05 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he said this when i did a phone interview recently, and i was like "..." and just let it stand and went into my next question, i didn't have the heart to be pedantic with fucking Prodigy from Mobb Deep

lol iv bn fsn 2 hell on earth https://soundcloud.com/asfcz-xzcc/rtaht-udd-dj at 35;xx m;s scuze teh francolatin arabi

two tracks in and it's fairly meh

I do like the beat on "Say Something", or at least the chorus...Prodigy's verses are fairly boring tho

https://soundcloud.com/asfzxdc-assdw/euinhytgvb 6;48

some dude: apparently he means 20 years since they made it in '94 (i asked)

whatever it takes to get product out, i guess, i dunno

yeah i know they recorded the album in '94 and the new outtakes are in '94, but he keeps specifically saying this April is the 20th anniversary of the album, which, did they record it all in April 1994 and then it took a year to come out? maybe, but i doubt it.

this is my article btw, i took pains to work a "bring to the table" reference into the headline:
http://citypaper.com/music/more-than-famous-1.1656970

yeah i'm not saying it's airtight reasoning, just saying that's what pr told me. i figure someone said "hey 20-year anniversaries seem to be a thing let's just say that and most people will just go w/ it"

nice piece, al

p is a ... challenging intvw

actually he's not that bad, i retract

Whiney seemed to give it a semi-positive review in RS. wasn't too taken by the opening two tracks but admittedly that's as far as I got. will probably stream it later

using Prodigy's logic on the 20th anniversary thing, Chinese Democracy is celebrating its 16th anniversary (or possibly 20th, depending on where you set the starting line at) this year.

Enjoyed what I heard after a quick stream. Gonna get it.

I wound up getting it after all, changed my mind somewhat on the first two tracks when I heard them on better speakers lol

4 tracks in this is def a vast improvement over that "Black Cocaine" ep of a few years back

for sure

I dig the single/first track. Love the sorta wavy/gritty feel of the repeating synth line. Havoc's solid, and Prodigy is OK, but I love his delivery on the "i'm the worst demon you could ever ask for"

yeah, definitely got rid of the commercial trappings that were being hinted at on Black Cocaine...

beat's good enough that I don't need Prodigy to be perfect anymore. they were in town tonight and debated seeing em but dunno, they did way too many Blood Money and Amerikaz Nightmare tracks last time.

mack wilds is michael from the wire, wtf. also, cd version is only 13 tracks plus the bonus disk... WTF

feel like some ppl in this thread are questioning Prodigy's trendsetting >:(

i'm questioning the omission of four tracks (two produced by Havoc) for the cd version, which is like thirty minutes long.

hahaha: https://twitter.com/PRODIGYMOBBDEEP/status/454005765691293696

lol

lol, lord he's sensitive. he replied to me once when I made a crack about how nobody bought H.N.I.C. 3 although he was in better humor than this.

I think Greene's wrong though. I mean, obviously, this isn't a dent on their early classics; they aren't capable of generating iconic lines anymore, Prodigy is still blunted and detached, but I mean I find their rhyming effective and the production surprisingly warm. I'd put this in the 7-ish range.

In that review, Greene said Q-Tip raps on "Give Up the Goods." Is he talking about, like, an outtake verse on this reissue's unreleased tracks? Or did I just misread what he meant?

i was a little confused by the review, which appeared to of a reissue of the original 1995 album that's packaged along with the outtakes and the new album, afaik that's not the case at all?

definitely not, it's just the new album and outtakes unless there's a package that I was unaware of.

Yeah, there's nothing on Amazon or Discogs about a reissue of The Infamous. Super-weird that Pitchfork covered it as a reissue.

the news stories from multiple outlets in advance of now said it would be a reissue-plus-album-plus-outtakes

the cd available on amazon is 2-disc, just the new album and the outtakes, but if you go to the mp3-only format, it seems to have the original album thrown in as a third 'disc'

I got mine from Best Buy and it was the same. lol if the reissue was just them throwing in mp3s of the 1995 release in with the new album

j. is right though, Spin and PItchfork both broke it in January that The Infamous was being reissued.

yeah i remember initial reports about the project being varying/contradictory at different points in the lead-up to the release

but yeah Amazon MP3 seems to be the only place that has the OG album as part of it, which eh, that's at least legit enough that i'm not as confused now

it would figure that the same dude who seems to have a weird definition of 20th anniversary would royally screw up this release, lol.

yeah, it's the "Super Deluxe" version, and I can't find it on other retailers. and the deluxe version is mp3 only which seems to be what was attested to upthread, that the cd doesn't have all the songs.

FUK U PRODIGY

actually it wouldn't surprise me if they said in their crowdfunding effort "hey we're using this money to record a new album and re-release The Infamous" and then later they were just like "ey Amazon u already got our mp3s on there right? yeah tack em on, charge 17.99 for it, sweet".

While this has been very confusing and I've no doubt they could still change things / hose people / whatever, I actually pursued the question of what exactly is in the release packages w/ MD's publicist and was told specifically - after the pub checked into it - that the April release is 2 discs (new album + outtakes) and then on May 1 they will release a "super deluxe" edition w/ 3 discs (new album + outtakes + Infamous remastered) PLUS a documentary DVD produced by Red Bull.

Prodigy and I also talked about the remastered Infamous album. I asked him if he and Havoc felt like the original album's sound needed an upgrade. His answer: "Nah. But we did it anyway!"

Again, I don't know how this lines up with reality, but like I said I was pretty dogged in at least getting an answer on what the release(s) would contain.

i'll be kinda pissed if the super deluxe is out in May cos I might as well have just waited for that one, not that I REALLY need another copy of Infamous but y'know....

May 1? They're going to drop it on a Thursday? Is that normal? Not trying to be pedantic here, the whole thing just seems kind of off.

Though maybe they're planning to release it in May 2015 for the actual 20th anniversary.

Also, something about Prodigy's answer to that "upgrade" question makes me think the album was absolutely not remastered. Can't quite put my finger on why.

I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong, though.

May 1 is the date the publicist said. Who knows. The whole thing is obviously a total clusterfuck.

And to reiterate: I have no idea if what I was told matches or will match reality.

Yeah, totally didn't mean to be critical of your reporting skills. Just confused by the whole thing.

I'm also trying to figure out if it’s canny or stupid to package the reissue of your all-time classic album as disc 3 of your new mediocre record, which happens to basically have an identical name.

And release it on the 19th anniversary of said classic, while telling everyone it's the celebrate the 20th!

*to celebrate, obviously

Also, include it as part of the "Super Deluxe" package that comes out a month after the "Deluxe" package.

go buy a prodigy album.
as time went by, out of all the nyc 90s rappers that mostly got by off like nostalgia shit and doing fairly tasteful work, maybe it was the knowledge that every day he woke up could be his last, the experience of his illness, going to jail, whatever-- he was an original, challenging artist. i think probably not many here checked out the bumpy johnson album, which is where he sorta steered off the radar and sounds like it was made in 1999 instead of 2012, probably prodigy at his lyrical best apart from hnic / mobb deep material. or albert einstein, four years ago, alchemist beats and a flow that's as far from what 2017 rap flow is like as possible, only occasionally maybe accidentally structured like a rap verse is conventionally structured, or rhymed or showing any sort of formal constraints, full of psychotic imagery, like weed smoke floating through a gunshot in the back window of a car. or the hegelian dialectic from this year, which was disappointing as i expected an album promoted on infowars and called the hegelian dialect to be less chilled out conventional rappin than it was but it has its moments and i like introspective prodigy.

https://streetknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/prodigy.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbaDNpjSJ1Q

i never went back to 'murda muzik', even though it was next up after 'hell on earth', b/c i had bought the disappointing 'infamy' on release, checked out probably until 'hold you down' - but listening to it today, it's good. kind of surprising to hear 8ball on a mobb deep record.

prodigy's delivery has got to be one of the all time artistic coups in rap history. there's nothing at all that you'd say is bad about it, the way some limited rapper might sound stiff or mechanical or whatever - but it's not at all inviting, he swings about the least of any new york rapper from his era, he's deliberately monotone and jams everything together to mute the rhetorical edges of his utterances, the contours of his clauses, he conceals a lot of what he has in the way of punchlines and wordplay or even the internal rhymes that new york rappers are so dependent on - but he knows the secret of making you listen.

'those that listen, get addicted to my diction'

oh jesus i only just read this

RIP

now i want to buy his cookbook

https://www.amazon.com/Commissary-Kitchen-Infamous-Prison-Cookbook/dp/0997146230

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZDu5rTJWM

my fav off MM ^^ outside of Quiet Storm. organ squeals always gonna get me hyped.

good posts j and dylann

kind of surprising to hear 8ball on a mobb deep record.

― j., Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

suave house production suited mobb deep just fine.

shit!

http://nahright.com/2009/05/08/prodigys-open-letter-to-esquires-stephen-marche/

"Outta Control" was #1 on my decade-end list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjzSEdKNIsw

yessss

thats great, whats it from?

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/06/prodigy-dj-whoo-kid-hnic-pt-1-mixtape/

:)

http://www.stereogum.com/1948494/atlanta-newscasters-sneakily-pay-tribute-to-mobb-deeps-prodigy/video/

thx xp

pac's bars on 'hit em up' particularly ugly rn

the rap tribute i prefer is from 'still not a player':

I lay your head on my chest, come feel my heartbeat
We can park the Jeep, pump Mobb Deep, and just spark the leaf

if that's not a description of heaven i don't know what is

prodigy on Pac:

2PAC pac grew on me, i really started liking pac when he made i get around and then really when he made hail mary and when he was going at mobb deep, i was feelin the fire in his heart. pac wasnt afraid to speak his mind about anything and the beats he chose were dope, i went back and bought alot of his older shit and had a new respect for him later on. people say "how you gonna like pac when he dissed you?" but i dont make my decisions off of what people say, i move on my own instincts. dont care if pac said shit bout my sickle cell, i still like 2pac regardless. so whoever disagrees, so what................................................................

his interviews and writings are gold mines

Enjoyed this Song Exploder episode about "Shook Ones Pt. II" with Havoc:
https://songexploder.net/mobb-deep