indefensible: john gruber

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markers, you're sounding disturbingly like one of those dudes who posts to fan sites for anime or w/e who think somebody else is a moron for not remembering which episode of Sailor Moon involved some incident

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (six years ago) link

i love you man, but this is a bad look

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (six years ago) link

how do you get that?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (six years ago) link

i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh shit :0

, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (six years ago) link

i think that was meant to be more about his laziness than anything else?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (six years ago) link

and the tone was just returning the volley. anyway if i'm being an apple defender here ok but i'm not even sure i am really but who knows

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (six years ago) link

i don't think apple is fucked

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:50 (six years ago) link

assuming that we would know the significance of that post in relation to apple history
that we would know what 9to5 mac is, probably a blog or something?
that we want to go to some other site to read about what is probably a passing anecdote

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:52 (six years ago) link

well the first thing was just in the news, it's not old. i'm surprised you're not aware of the second, at least due to mark gurman's scoops, but i guess i could be super down the rabbit hole here. lastly, you guys do spend a lot of time talking about fedoras and other useless shit, so i'm sorry you wouldn't want to spend two seconds on this

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (six years ago) link

and yes, this also qualifies as useless shit.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (six years ago) link

anyway, we're friends, lets not fight

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:55 (six years ago) link

I have read a lot of random apple stuff in my day but I have no idea who mark gurman is, as far as data points go

I'd say that crafting a cool post tying that anecdote in would be neat!

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:56 (six years ago) link

he broke the healthbook stuff the other week and has a lot of other apple scoops. sorry, i guess i really *am* down in a rabbit hole here, even in respect to you guys. i should probably spend less time following the minutae on twitter and elsewhere, but for now and the past couple years i really have, at the expense of other interests too

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (six years ago) link

i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (six years ago) link

all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:25 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:00 (six years ago) link

forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:01 (six years ago) link

now i wish you hadnt

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:02 (six years ago) link

next time i won't

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (six years ago) link

it's good to be back

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (six years ago) link

I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:21 (six years ago) link

gonna put that picture itt

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:23 (six years ago) link

got distracted for a moment, but

http://i.imgur.com/JCCTJyi.jpg

from macrumors

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (six years ago) link

shit look at that thing

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (six years ago) link

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (six years ago) link

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:59 (six years ago) link

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:27 (six years ago) link

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 21:21 (six years ago) link

good link coming in

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:34 (six years ago) link

watch it

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (six years ago) link

at least a little

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (six years ago) link

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:05 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (six years ago) link

he's the one who knew stuff about azure for some reason i think.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (six years ago) link

ugh, if you click that link make sure you manually add the "-" to the end of the url or you won't get the video

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (six years ago) link

at least i didn't

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (six years ago) link

there are limited app cloud options, really

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:34 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

And is a worthy partner for Gruber. Christ, his dev blog is so painful to read I had to unsubscribe. Endless "do my homework for me", obvious mining of dead-ends, NIH all over the place, unsubstantiated resistance to the right solutions and manic over-engineering. Explains a lot about why NNW performance was so awful, and definitely explains the horrific state of its nib files.

stet, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:28 (six years ago) link

lol

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:29 (six years ago) link

you've brought actual developers with axes to grind in on this now, markers

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:32 (six years ago) link

damn true

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link

as I said to someone recently, no one hates software developers more than other developers. and if you don't, then you're probably part of the problem.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:34 (six years ago) link

the funny thing about talking about software dev and vesper is that i actually wrote a notes app for the ti 83 plus back in the day

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:37 (six years ago) link

you can store ten strings on it. i stored all the notes as a series of numbers in a matrix instead of storing them in the strings.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (six years ago) link

you convert each number back to a character, and each character back into a number, to go from what's stored to what's displayed. something like that.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (six years ago) link

p.s. ticalc.org existed long before the app store did

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (six years ago) link

your notes application was probably better implemented than vesper

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:42 (six years ago) link

too bad you can't make a living off writing shit in ti basic

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:47 (six years ago) link

https://twitter.com/pschiller/favorites

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 02:41 (six years ago) link


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