The BBC

*The last time I had no licence and a Crapitan on my doorstep, he tried to front his way into my flat by pretending he was one of the builders working on my kitchen. He got told. The real builders were massively entertained by seeing him frog-marched out with 'You. FUCK. OFF. NOW!'

― baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 18 April 2014 18:53 (18 minutes ago)

since you had corroborating evidence from the builders you might have reported this to the police as aggravated trespass / harassment / assault / whatever and complained to capita independently (the individual wastemen presumably being logged to certain addresses and identifiable)

lol

I might have done, but since he didn't actually cross the threshold, all I could do was to escort him from the block knowing the 'trades' button didn't work to get him back in. If you'd registered that important detail you wouldn't have introduced the coulda/shoulda/woulda element, right?

yeah don't be so pissy, 'frog-marched out' left trespass ambiguous but irrespective of that, attempting to gain entry through impersonation is still worth reporting to the police

Maybe less of the calling others pissy when in the midst of own epic attack of same - but feel free to call the cops if you're ever in that situation, OK?

*sigh*

nah not really trying to engage yr own ample delusions of reference nor remotely doubting the capacity of fearsome west end matriarch big suze to send the capita bro packing with his tail between his legs so much as avowing the general principle, since the next person they victimize may well lack capacity (linguistic, mental, etc)

these people are cunts who behave entirely unconscionably so it is worth pursuing them when they betray very least their own protocols, and possibly the law too, not that they would ever get convicted for that (although a quick search shows a couple dozen tv license enforcers are successully prosecuted every year) but it's at least dubious enough to report it in order to expedite a private complaint to their employer

*sigh*

hey nakh do "market level" commercial rivals to radio 1 broadcast hour-long documentaries about teenage domestic abuse? do they play 65 hours of specialist music a week? do young people not deserve to have their culture reflected on the radio without being told what kind of pizza to be eating and what sort of mobile phones to buy?

fuck outta here

that shit should all be privatized and the less market amenable public interest stuff financed via general taxation

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sites/default/files/styles/logo-thumbnail/public/0018/4202/brand.gif

I hear args (certainly from people in classical music/R3 listeners) that R1/2 is basically just a 24/7 commercial because it broadcasts music that is distributed by private interests. Unlike R3 which has much of its avant-garde funded by public arts bodies.

I love R3 but I never had much for this. The BBC is about all sorts of output, has always been, and then music fundamentally (by what it is an, by whom it is made by, etc etc) muddies the waters anyway.

how much of BBC output is core BBC? I ask because the BBC seems in my lifetime to have essentially become a core outsourcing department (with extremely expensive Big Four consultants and a high level of managerial bureaucracy).

However, presumably buildings (W1 and Salford), the full news chain of production (some journos, playout, engineering etc) are still entirely BBC.

my entire being revolts against BBC privatisation, but a combination of having to money chase the "you get taxpayers' money, be more populist"/"you're indistinguishable from itv/sky" right-wing BBC-hating fork, and an apparently supine news editorial policy means I scrape around a bit when looking for detail. plus an awful lot is spent on the bureaucracy of outsourcing, as I say (crucially, less than in-house production, but of course the money goes to different people).

probably still a higher percentage of arts programming, right? radio: 3 has become a bit of a battleground for the fork mentioned above, but although 4 seems to outsource to external production companies as much as TV, the editorial policy seems sound? Sounds from TH like R1 is still providing something beyond the remit if many popular music commercial stations. Olympics coverage was remarkable, an extraordinary feat of cross-platform broadcasting, but it knew it didn't have to fight it's wearying public funding arguments for that. what else?

This is essential viewing whilst it is still on iplayer, could listen to Ian Nairn talking forever, wasters like Richard Clay, Helen Czerski and the odious Brian Cox take notes please. Not that any of them will ever be worth shit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01rn270/Nairn_Across_Britain_From_London_to_Lancashire/

yeah they're touching & awkward & beautiful & slow. some discussion on the jonathan meades thread

I am way behind the times as usual, what a brilliant and essential person.

"yeah they're touching & awkward & beautiful & slow"
Just watched the Leeds to Scotland one again and that is a perfect description.

How do you rip these fuckers? Just tried it the google way and spent an hour purging all the extraneous malware crap that I got.

the last time i tried to rip an iplayer show it was sufficiently difficult that i gave it up

I think it's on iplayer for the forseeable future, don't know if they'll add more nairn but would love to see better quality versions of some of the stuff on youtube.

673:	Nairn Across Britain - 1. From London to Lancashire, BBC Web Only, Arts Culture & the Media,Factual,Lifestyle & Leisure,TV,Travel, default, 0 days 0 hours ago - Writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North. (1972)
INFO: File name prefix = Nairn_Across_Britain_-_1._From_London_to_Lancashire_p01rn270_default                 
available:      Unknown
categories:     Factual,Arts, Culture & the Media,Lifestyle & Leisure,Travel
channel:        BBC Web Only
desc:           First transmitted in 1972, writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes the first of three journeys north through the British Isles to look at the land we live in. Following an imaginary straight line between London and Manchester, and ignoring the motorways, Nairn finds it to be a journey of surprises.    Nairn bemoans the pulling down of Northampton's Emporium Arcade and decries the bleakness of the M1 motorway experience. But he is heartened by the preservation of Staunton Harold Hall and church, and by a Stockport shopping precinct.
descmedium:     First transmitted in 1972, Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North and finds plenty to comment about in a landscape of surprises.
descshort:      Writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North. (1972)
episode:        1. From London to Lancashire
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expiryrel:      in 84 years 234 days 11 hours

84 years...

I know bbc are working backwards to digitize everything but it's so slow you'd think they could fish out obviously special stuff like this and get 3 months behind on newsround or whatever

The slow part of the process is rights clearance, unfortunately.

They have collections of stuff that's up for ever already, eg all these documentaries on London:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collections/p00synd3/london

And these, on postwar architecture:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collections/p01s0hpy/post-war-architecture

How do you rip these fuckers? Just tried it the google way and spent an hour purging all the extraneous malware crap that I got

You can download them on t0rrentz and then rip them using software like Nero or Toast.

I have done more research and currently recording an episode using WM recorder, if it is successful I will upload the results.

(get_iplayer will download the original mp4s which vlc will happily play (as will my tv from a usb stick). dependencies are a bit of a pain though. easier with linux...)

I tried that one earlier and had an absolute mare. It isn't downloadable from iplayer so I used WM recorder to download it is an FLV and then converted it into an mp4, if anyone is interested I will upload it as a torrent when I have done all 3 episodes.

Forget it, i dont think this shit works tbh.

Open link in new tab individually and click on download.

Fuck you BBC.

Don't do that here please

Oops sorry. I thought it might be too obscure to be a copyright infringement issue.

get_iplayer hasn't worked in years has it? as a very last resort, after trying all the torrent sites (including the ultra-secret tv one that used to be thebox dot bz) then a fairly simple but timeconsuming way is just make the video full-screen and record the footage using a program called 'Replay Video Capture'. done this a few times with the adam curtis videos on his blog that are otherwise completely undownloadable (and seem at risk of being taken down on a whim)

I use get-iplayer all the time, mainly for time-lapsing radio (because I prefer winamp to their little web based widget). The original was forked a few years ago after the bloke lost interest. And it can be a fiddle getting all the dependencies installed, especially on windows, but seems stable enough on Linux (and, indeed, still gets frequent updates)

(Time-shifting, I think I mean)

ah great, i'll get hold of that again. but yeah, Replay Video Capture is the ultimate failsafe solution for grabbing protected online video/audio, v useful

bit off topic and only of interest to london ilxors, but given recent talk of nairn some of you might be interested in this

http://www.stokenewingtonliteraryfestival.com/snlf_events/ian-nairn-poet-of-subtopia-with-gillian-darley-and-ken-worpole/

I notice Hugo Blick has a new series The Honourable Woman with Maggie Gyllenhaal and Stephen Rea, loved The Shadow Line so this looks very promising.

i did too. first ep of this was pretty good i thought. maggie g's accent is surprisingly good

I didn't like the first episode at all. No sign of any characters I'd support/like/be interested in. And that fucking kid's massive watch thing that records sound just had me rmde.

you think that now, but wait til he uses it to fool tim curry into kissing a bellhop

Playing fucking radiohead to convey sadness, fuck this this shit already. Can't watch another minute of this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/shows/strange-hill-high

this is genuinely good, not "good for a CBBC show" good, genuinely laugh out loud good

Rona Fairhead looks set to take over:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/aug/31/rona-fairhead-confirmed-chair-bbc-trust

I loved the Neil Baldwin biopic Marvellous. Toby Jones was excellent as was the real former Stoke kit-man Neil Baldwin. Quite good for the beeb was this, credit where it is due, it was quite beautiful actually.

heard v good things about this - thanks for reminding me xelab. going on the christmas watch list.

Hodge going HAM remains one of the most repellent sights in British politics but is the general feeling that Fairhead is dead in the water?

even aside from HSBC, fairhead's in charge of a body that everyone agrees won't be around after the next charter renewal so putting the boot into her takes about as much courage as pissing on a snail

This issue doesn't only refer to the BBC although I suspect they have stricter guidelines than other UK channels.

The BBC's coverage of the start of the general election campaign included footage of Cameron, Milliband, Clegg and then Nigel Farage, in that order. I was left wondering why Farage was considered quotable compared to the other parties including the Greens, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein?

SNP = Jocks, PC = Taffs, SF = Paddies, Greens = hippies. Seriously though, why mention Sinn Fein when the DUP is the biggest party in Northern Ireland and, unlike Sinn Fein, sits in the House of Commons?