that shit should all be privatized and the less market amenable public interest stuff financed via general taxation
http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sites/default/files/styles/logo-thumbnail/public/0018/4202/brand.gif
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 April 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link
I hear args (certainly from people in classical music/R3 listeners) that R1/2 is basically just a 24/7 commercial because it broadcasts music that is distributed by private interests. Unlike R3 which has much of its avant-garde funded by public arts bodies.
I love R3 but I never had much for this. The BBC is about all sorts of output, has always been, and then music fundamentally (by what it is an, by whom it is made by, etc etc) muddies the waters anyway.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 April 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link
how much of BBC output is core BBC? I ask because the BBC seems in my lifetime to have essentially become a core outsourcing department (with extremely expensive Big Four consultants and a high level of managerial bureaucracy).
However, presumably buildings (W1 and Salford), the full news chain of production (some journos, playout, engineering etc) are still entirely BBC.
my entire being revolts against BBC privatisation, but a combination of having to money chase the "you get taxpayers' money, be more populist"/"you're indistinguishable from itv/sky" right-wing BBC-hating fork, and an apparently supine news editorial policy means I scrape around a bit when looking for detail. plus an awful lot is spent on the bureaucracy of outsourcing, as I say (crucially, less than in-house production, but of course the money goes to different people).
probably still a higher percentage of arts programming, right? radio: 3 has become a bit of a battleground for the fork mentioned above, but although 4 seems to outsource to external production companies as much as TV, the editorial policy seems sound? Sounds from TH like R1 is still providing something beyond the remit if many popular music commercial stations. Olympics coverage was remarkable, an extraordinary feat of cross-platform broadcasting, but it knew it didn't have to fight it's wearying public funding arguments for that. what else?
― Fizzles, Saturday, 19 April 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link
This is essential viewing whilst it is still on iplayer, could listen to Ian Nairn talking forever, wasters like Richard Clay, Helen Czerski and the odious Brian Cox take notes please. Not that any of them will ever be worth shit.http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01rn270/Nairn_Across_Britain_From_London_to_Lancashire/
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Saturday, 10 May 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah they're touching & awkward & beautiful & slow. some discussion on the jonathan meades thread
― ogmor, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
I am way behind the times as usual, what a brilliant and essential person.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link
"yeah they're touching & awkward & beautiful & slow"Just watched the Leeds to Scotland one again and that is a perfect description.
How do you rip these fuckers? Just tried it the google way and spent an hour purging all the extraneous malware crap that I got.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
the last time i tried to rip an iplayer show it was sufficiently difficult that i gave it up
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 May 2014 08:14 (nine years ago) link
I think it's on iplayer for the forseeable future, don't know if they'll add more nairn but would love to see better quality versions of some of the stuff on youtube.
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 May 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
673: Nairn Across Britain - 1. From London to Lancashire, BBC Web Only, Arts Culture & the Media,Factual,Lifestyle & Leisure,TV,Travel, default, 0 days 0 hours ago - Writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North. (1972)INFO: File name prefix = Nairn_Across_Britain_-_1._From_London_to_Lancashire_p01rn270_default available: Unknowncategories: Factual,Arts, Culture & the Media,Lifestyle & Leisure,Travelchannel: BBC Web Onlydesc: First transmitted in 1972, writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes the first of three journeys north through the British Isles to look at the land we live in. Following an imaginary straight line between London and Manchester, and ignoring the motorways, Nairn finds it to be a journey of surprises. Nairn bemoans the pulling down of Northampton's Emporium Arcade and decries the bleakness of the M1 motorway experience. But he is heartened by the preservation of Staunton Harold Hall and church, and by a Stockport shopping precinct.descmedium: First transmitted in 1972, Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North and finds plenty to comment about in a landscape of surprises.descshort: Writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North. (1972)episode: 1. From London to Lancashireepisodenum: 1episodeshort: From London to Lancashireexpiry: 2099-01-01T00:00:00Zexpiryrel: in 84 years 234 days 11 hours
available: Unknowncategories: Factual,Arts, Culture & the Media,Lifestyle & Leisure,Travelchannel: BBC Web Onlydesc: First transmitted in 1972, writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes the first of three journeys north through the British Isles to look at the land we live in. Following an imaginary straight line between London and Manchester, and ignoring the motorways, Nairn finds it to be a journey of surprises. Nairn bemoans the pulling down of Northampton's Emporium Arcade and decries the bleakness of the M1 motorway experience. But he is heartened by the preservation of Staunton Harold Hall and church, and by a Stockport shopping precinct.descmedium: First transmitted in 1972, Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North and finds plenty to comment about in a landscape of surprises.descshort: Writer and journalist Ian Nairn takes a journey to the industrial North. (1972)episode: 1. From London to Lancashireepisodenum: 1episodeshort: From London to Lancashireexpiry: 2099-01-01T00:00:00Zexpiryrel: in 84 years 234 days 11 hours
84 years...
― koogs, Sunday, 11 May 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link
I know bbc are working backwards to digitize everything but it's so slow you'd think they could fish out obviously special stuff like this and get 3 months behind on newsround or whatever
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 May 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link
The slow part of the process is rights clearance, unfortunately.
― stet, Sunday, 11 May 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
They have collections of stuff that's up for ever already, eg all these documentaries on London:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collections/p00synd3/london
― Alba, Sunday, 11 May 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
And these, on postwar architecture:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collections/p01s0hpy/post-war-architecture
― Alba, Sunday, 11 May 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
How do you rip these fuckers? Just tried it the google way and spent an hour purging all the extraneous malware crap that I got
You can download them on t0rrentz and then rip them using software like Nero or Toast.
― goth colouring book (anagram), Sunday, 11 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
I have done more research and currently recording an episode using WM recorder, if it is successful I will upload the results.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
(get_iplayer will download the original mp4s which vlc will happily play (as will my tv from a usb stick). dependencies are a bit of a pain though. easier with linux...)
― koogs, Sunday, 11 May 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
I tried that one earlier and had an absolute mare. It isn't downloadable from iplayer so I used WM recorder to download it is an FLV and then converted it into an mp4, if anyone is interested I will upload it as a torrent when I have done all 3 episodes.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Forget it, i dont think this shit works tbh.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
Open link in new tab individually and click on download.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Fuck you BBC.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
Don't do that here please
― stet, Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Oops sorry. I thought it might be too obscure to be a copyright infringement issue.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
get_iplayer hasn't worked in years has it? as a very last resort, after trying all the torrent sites (including the ultra-secret tv one that used to be thebox dot bz) then a fairly simple but timeconsuming way is just make the video full-screen and record the footage using a program called 'Replay Video Capture'. done this a few times with the adam curtis videos on his blog that are otherwise completely undownloadable (and seem at risk of being taken down on a whim)
― NI, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link
I use get-iplayer all the time, mainly for time-lapsing radio (because I prefer winamp to their little web based widget). The original was forked a few years ago after the bloke lost interest. And it can be a fiddle getting all the dependencies installed, especially on windows, but seems stable enough on Linux (and, indeed, still gets frequent updates)
― koogs, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link
(Time-shifting, I think I mean)
― koogs, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link
ah great, i'll get hold of that again. but yeah, Replay Video Capture is the ultimate failsafe solution for grabbing protected online video/audio, v useful
― NI, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
bit off topic and only of interest to london ilxors, but given recent talk of nairn some of you might be interested in this
http://www.stokenewingtonliteraryfestival.com/snlf_events/ian-nairn-poet-of-subtopia-with-gillian-darley-and-ken-worpole/
― sktsh, Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link
I notice Hugo Blick has a new series The Honourable Woman with Maggie Gyllenhaal and Stephen Rea, loved The Shadow Line so this looks very promising.
― festival of labour (xelab), Saturday, 5 July 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
i did too. first ep of this was pretty good i thought. maggie g's accent is surprisingly good
― sktsh, Saturday, 5 July 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
I didn't like the first episode at all. No sign of any characters I'd support/like/be interested in. And that fucking kid's massive watch thing that records sound just had me rmde.
― oppet, Saturday, 5 July 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
you think that now, but wait til he uses it to fool tim curry into kissing a bellhop
― sktsh, Saturday, 5 July 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
Playing fucking radiohead to convey sadness, fuck this this shit already. Can't watch another minute of this.
― festival of labour (xelab), Sunday, 6 July 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/shows/strange-hill-high
this is genuinely good, not "good for a CBBC show" good, genuinely laugh out loud good
― Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 13 July 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Rona Fairhead looks set to take over:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/aug/31/rona-fairhead-confirmed-chair-bbc-trust
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Sunday, 31 August 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
I loved the Neil Baldwin biopic Marvellous. Toby Jones was excellent as was the real former Stoke kit-man Neil Baldwin. Quite good for the beeb was this, credit where it is due, it was quite beautiful actually.
― xelab, Saturday, 13 December 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link
heard v good things about this - thanks for reminding me xelab. going on the christmas watch list.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 14 December 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link
Hodge going HAM remains one of the most repellent sights in British politics but is the general feeling that Fairhead is dead in the water?
― Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Monday, 9 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
even aside from HSBC, fairhead's in charge of a body that everyone agrees won't be around after the next charter renewal so putting the boot into her takes about as much courage as pissing on a snail
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 March 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
This issue doesn't only refer to the BBC although I suspect they have stricter guidelines than other UK channels.
The BBC's coverage of the start of the general election campaign included footage of Cameron, Milliband, Clegg and then Nigel Farage, in that order. I was left wondering why Farage was considered quotable compared to the other parties including the Greens, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein?
― djh, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
SNP = Jocks, PC = Taffs, SF = Paddies, Greens = hippies. Seriously though, why mention Sinn Fein when the DUP is the biggest party in Northern Ireland and, unlike Sinn Fein, sits in the House of Commons?
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
http://media.timeout.com/blogimages/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/map-of-uk-with-london-sized-populations-528x788.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
North-west M62 corridor seems best placed to submerge individual civic identities into a dystopian sprawling mega-city to somewhat rebalance UK economy and society away from London
― This be the jokeyjoke that hath occurred to me (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 08:36 (nine years ago) link
^ achievable policies for a sensibler britain
― This be the jokeyjoke that hath occurred to me (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 08:37 (nine years ago) link
I was left wondering why Farage was considered quotable
have you seen the man speak? he's made for TV
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 10:03 (nine years ago) link
Usually he's just reading tabloid headlines held up for him off camera.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 10:13 (nine years ago) link
Why not DUP? Forgot them - they would have been next after Liberal Democrats based on the 2010 election.
― djh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
every single quote in this is awful
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/apr/27/bbc2-controller-kim-shillinglaw-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson
― soref, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
The reason why Mary Beard can crack a joke about Roman sex lives and – you know – penises, is because, you know what? She bloody knows her stuff about Rome.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
Easy on my balls, they're fragile as eggs.
― contendo conformo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link