http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HCCNJU/#kindle-compare
― markers, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
I am slightly disappointed with the paperwhite. I dislike tapping the screen -- you can't wipe off smudges while reading, and it's a bit finicky about how long you need to tap it. also you need to use both hands, one to hold it and one to tap -- it's just easier when you're tucked in bed or taking a bath to use it one-handed (no masturbation jokes please).
― and yo-yos (abanana), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link
just about the one-handed or the whole post cos
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I prefer using buttons other than when I am lying in bed reading. That's what i like about the nook having both options. Admittedly the backlight is stronger on top and not perfectly diffused but for half the price I am p chuffed.
― xelab, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
My fear with the Nook is B&N's inevitable bankruptcy.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
wow, just got the $44 paperwhite for our upcoming year in gaul, since reading is my kids' main hobby and books are heavy to ship overseas.
― Euler, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
xpNothing to stop you legally buying books on your pc and transferring them to your nook, even in the instance that B+N went bankrupt. I bought a P Garnier ebook off amazon, was pissed to discover it could only be read on my pc, so I downloaded a program called Calibre to sort that shit out.
― xelab, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
Where is that $44 one? We in the Redd family are seeing $119 as basic paperwhite price, no 3G without special offers.
― Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
guess it's a special deal if you have prime?
― Euler, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Mrs. Redd has it. Thought she checked.
― Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Did you get an email or something? Link please.
I just went to amazon & a banner showed up at the top
― Euler, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Maybe it's regional. Are you in France right now?
― Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Being reminded of this classic thread
― Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
My fear with the Nook is B&N's inevitable bankruptcy.― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:37 PM
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:37 PM
do not buy one. period.
― markers, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
if you already have, sell it and get a kindle or, even better, an ipad with the kindle app.
no, I'm in the USA still
― Euler, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:24 (ten years ago) link
are epubs hard to buy in the US? Over here if/when b&n go under I feel like there are a lot of other sites (waterstones, foyles, etc) where you could buy books for the nook.
even better, an ipad with the kindle appdo you read whole books on your ipad markers? I think my eyes would get really tired if I did this. Plus blue light in bed etc..
― sktsh, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link
(but maybe it's different with retina? idk)
― sktsh, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Thought about getting the $32.20 model, but I believe it's most too light.
― Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Calibre converts epubs>mobis or whatever to whatever in seconds.
― xelab, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
hey markers. let's say i can get a second hand nook real cheap and all the free pdfs/epubs i want. is there still a real reason not to get the nook?
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah that waterstones nonsense was a mealymouthed way of saying pretty much this ^
― sktsh, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
I've not had good luck with the coughfree pdfs/epubs in terms of formatting, tbh and the usual freebie sources haven't had a lot of things I wanted to read. Kinda makes me want to get a cheaper Nook Glowlight for the buttons, though, if the lighting were up to par with my Paperwhite.
With a retina iPad, reading is okay as long as you turn the brightness way down - using the sepia toning in the Kindle app helps too. I still prefer the Paperwhite even w/o buttons and the occasional wonkiness of double touching and stuff.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link
hey markers. let's say i can get a second hand nook real cheap and all the free pdfs/epubs i want. is there still a real reason not to get the nook?― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:03 PM
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:03 PM
if you're going to be storing those files somewhere (dropbox, your pc, etc.) that's not just on the device and you don't intend on using the nook store, then you should probably be fine, unless there's something i'm not seeing, as long as nooks either come with or can be loaded up with an app or apps capable of dealing with those file formats. but i wouldn't buy any actual ebook *from* b&n, because as others have noted their business seems to be in a really bad place right now.
― markers, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link
blue light in bed
i read white on black
i got used to it
ymmv
― ugh (lukas), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
xp
ok cool, the nooks seem to be the cheapest option around at the moment and i just want something to read pdfs from so i reckon for my purposes it's probly ok - don't need any of the interconnective stuff
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
i just wrote this so i'm going to post it even though it looks like you might be all set:
the best tablet, though, is an ipad, ideally the newest one you can get. (mine is like a year and half old at this point, and i wouldn't recommend that anyone buy it now, even though it works fine.) you get access to whatever bookstores you want to have access to (ibooks, kindle, nook, kobo, etc.), you can use some really nice software to look at epub, pdf, doc, txt, and other files, you know that apple's gonna be around for a bit, and you're going to be able to get software updates for both your apps and the os for a while. it'll be super solid for at least two years probably and will still be good for three, maybe even four years beyond that, before you'd really really want to upgrade.
― markers, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link
if you want more opinions, the apple lust objects thread isn't a bad place to ask, but as the title implies we're all a bit biased there.
― markers, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
there are also relatively cheap tablets, like the nexus 7, which might be a little small for pdf reading, but still get good reviews. it's difficult to give a recommendation because the field is complicated. just know that there's a chance b&n gives up the digital books market in some way at some point.
― markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link
and that your device and the ecosystem around it might not be supported. it's a risk! but if it's cheap, that might not matter. you can always just get a new device later on and copy the files back onto it as long as you keep a backup of them.
― markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
i've got no ideological opposition to an ipad, just nowhere near being able to afford even a used one, whereas i can pick up a used Nook v. cheap and i have a whole stack of lovely books on the computer that i want to be able to read at will. take your point that it's a long way short of the best solution - i have read that elsewhere too
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
can someone else back me up on this or refute me? i want to make sure i don't screw nv over here by giving bad advice, especially because i've never owned a nook and don't know much about it
― markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link
xpost totally understand. i got mine as a gift and have a flip phone. i just don't want to send you off in a bad direction. hopefully someone else will chime in.
please make sure that whatever model your buying will handle those two file formats, too. i just did two seconds of googling, and i don't what model the dude was talking about, but someone mentioned formatting issues wrt pdfs. (could've been talking about one of the non-tablet models for all i know.) i assume bn.com has some basic information and other specifics can be answered by google or someone here who actually owns one of these things. good luck!
― markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
i assume of the 3 (nook, ipad + kindle) the ipad is the only one that does an okay job displaying pdfs (maybe the kindle fire too?)?
― Mordy , Monday, 28 April 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link
i have a no-brand knockoff chinese android tablet that's two years old, pdf, kindle and all etc formats are no problem on it.
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I think for pdfs nooks aren't great, but for other stuff they're totally fine and if you get it for peanuts I'd say totally go for it. I got a simple touch for £30 about a year ago and am glad I did.
ah yeah, I meant blue light as in this: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/health/05light.html
― sktsh, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link
prob has a lot to do with whether the pdf is a scan (ie unresizable images) or actual text, too.
― sktsh, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah i can get a glowlight touch for about £30, have heard varying things about pdfs and if they don't work well that wd probably break the deal, i want to road test one before i buy i think
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link
i left mine in edinburgh last time i was up or i'd have a look for you :(
― sktsh, Monday, 28 April 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
Calibre converts PDFs, makes text ones super-manageable on kindle at least
this is not "even better" if what you want to do is read
― Gritty Shakur (sic), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link
oh i'll get round to doing this for myself, was interested in markers's disparagement because i have heard similar things in the past but if it's just cos the backup will be shitty to non-existent i can live with that, as i say i've got pdfs already to keep me going for months, but nothing to read them from other than the computer, and y'know, that's for video games and porn and picking fights with strangers
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 00:27 (ten years ago) link
google nexus works for pdfs and ebooks. yes battery life and price, but otherwise it's v good.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 28 April 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link
It doesn't matter if/when bn goes under, I populate my nook almost entirely with side loaded stuff downloaded off the internet anyway. Reading on e-ink is better than reading on retina screen if you are ever ever going to read outside at the bus stop etc.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 April 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
if it hasn't been said already, there is a huge difference between reading on a tablet (iPad, etc.) and a Nook/Kindle/Kobo which use eInk screens... the latter is vastly easier on the eyes, and much more like reading actual ink on paper.
A Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight (2012-2013 models, black body) has buttons, the new Nook Glowlight (white body) does not... you have to swipe the screen to turn the page. The new version is also lacking a memory card slot. I hope they rectify both of these total design fuckups in their next iteration, because those two things were the only thing setting the Nook apart from the Kindle, which has a better eBook store (Amazon) with better prices.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 28 April 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link
oops, it was said in the comment right before mine!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 28 April 2014 04:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i think white text on a black background should be cool? seems like the total brightness matters a lot, and 90% of the screen is dark.
― ugh (lukas), Monday, 28 April 2014 04:39 (ten years ago) link
can't imagine you wouldn't get a killing headache reading like that at the beach
― Gritty Shakur (sic), Monday, 28 April 2014 04:59 (ten years ago) link
ipads are great but i much prefer to read e-ink and also, ipads cost like 5 times as much.
i like that kindles are fairly cheap, i mean comparatively, it means i can like bring them to the beach and stuff and not be too uptight about it
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 April 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link