ha, i assume he means "every record I've released" but who knows
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
"Every record I remember releasing...for $49.99. Apiece."
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
It's kind of amazing that for something that was in gestation for so long, the archives projects have been released in such largely inept fashion.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
The first time I heard about it was a 1990 interview in the Chicago Tribune; then, it was going to be a 10-CD set, which sounded absolutely massive at the time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
David Briggs mentioned in Shakey that Neil had a crew doing archives work at the ranch during the Ragged Glory sessions.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
did not know this was on Spotify, lol
currently jamming the shit out of Fillmore 1970
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 September 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
stop bumping this if it's not about Archives 2 the wrath of shakey
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 4 September 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.
― Duke, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
if something god forbid happened to neil, i wonder if there would then be a bootleg series type thing or if his will states that everything must be cremated with him
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
with the divorce who knows what's going to happen to his estate. obviously his kids can't take care of it.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Elliott Roberts
― I Don't Wanna Ice Bucket With You (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
There's still Amber! She apparently just married an investment banker or something.
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link
truly hope his pov is "i'll be reissued to others satisfaction when i'm dead" rather than "bury me with the compumixes"
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
ah right I forgot about Amber
― Οὖτις, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Pegi will get all the Archives.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the performance series is pretty similar, no?
― mizzell, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
i mean, dylan is releasing the complete basement tapes and neil has 3 unreleased proper studio albums that are supposedly bona fide classics that haven't been released
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link
it does seem increasingly weird that dudes like dylan and young with these deep archives of live performances aren't looking at what the grateful dead does and just copying that. neil performance series is great, but it's not quite dick's picks. if he just told jonathan bernstein to do the same thing as dick's picks, there would be tons of great (and complete) shows available.
― tylerw, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
iirc, the members of the Dead don't want to listen to any of the Dick's Picks series. Which is great for fans, obviously -- no meddling -- but I can see how artists a little more hands-on like Young and Dylan would be wary about something like that.
(and don't get me started on the Who's lack of a live series...)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
yeah, as with almost everything else, the dead are a unique case. [don't know if i'd call dylan hands on though -- if he's listened at all to any of those bootleg series' i would be kind of surprised]
― tylerw, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
the best dylan quote ever i read in this article where a journalist was talking about doing an article where he got to hang out w/dylan during the Infidels sessions. he'd obviously heard all the songs and assumed the "Blind Willie McTell" would be the centerpiece of the album. He comes back to hear the final mixes and is horrified that Dylan has left the song off the album and starts to protest, Dylan says "Hey man, don't worry about it, it's just an album, I've made 20 of them"
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
i think clinton heylin had some conspiracy theory that dylan held back "blind willie mctell" because he knew that not releasing it would immediately catapult it into "classic" status. and it did! (not that it isn't a genuinely great song)
― tylerw, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
sactly
― famous instagram God (waterface), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
"Hey man, don't worry about it, it's just an album, I've made 20 of them"
ha, wonder where different singer/songwriters reached that degree of cynicism re: individual artifacts. Probably around the time they realized the wiggle room on their concert setlist was decreasing.
― da croupier, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
"ok i gotta play these 8 songs till the end of time, so reasonably this album is only going to provide one to four songs on future setlists, so fuck the b side"
― da croupier, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
"we're going for a sort of 'mediocre' vibe on this particular record, that song wouldn't fit"
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Heylin's Behind the Shades basically repeats the same narrative for each and every Dylan album: that it coulda been something much greater had it been recorded/mixed/sequenced/whatever differently. You come away with the feeling that Dylan's career was just one huge missed opportunity
― Duke, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkthe performance series is pretty similar, no?― mizzell, Friday, September 5, 2014 5:48 PM (3 hours ago)
― mizzell, Friday, September 5, 2014 5:48 PM (3 hours ago)
Fair point. But there could be so much more.
― Duke, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
You doubters will be shocked and saddened when Neil suddenly makes dozens of shows available for download exclusively to those who bought the Blu-ray edition.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/neil-young-guitarist-poncho-sampedro-wants-one-last-crazy-horse-tour-20140905
He's always thinking about what he's doing today and tomorrow, and right now he has acoustic shows, Pono and he's working on a fiction novel."
Not mentioned: Archives 2.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link
Ha those poncho interviews are so funny. For a guy who has been pretty close to shakey for 40 years he still has zero idea what is going to happen next.
― tylerw, Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, and apparently they don't exactly hang out while on tour if Frank had to send Neil an email about set list suggestions.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
After he wraps his current tour in October, Young will continue work on Archives II, the follow-up to 2009's Archives, which collected unreleased material up to 1972. Young says the project will include Dume, an album of songs from the Zuma era, and Hitchhiker, an acoustic LP from the mid-Seventies. The major holdup has been developing technology for presenting the ambitious project: "We're gonna have a website that's, like, 60 years of music in chronological order, with links so you can look at my archives and play the music off the high-res source at the same time." So what's it like to reflect on all he's accomplished over the years? "I don't," he says. "I need to take a break and go to the bathroom."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/inside-neil-youngs-nature-themed-opus-20160705#ixzz4DY1hmDqk Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link
so much about that is amazing
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
can a website be pono
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
poll
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
I wonder if they could do a *Pono Certified* program for websites like those Energy Star ratings they have on washing machine and shit
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
also no mention of the albums Homegrown, Oceanside/Countryside, or the original Chrome Dreams??
would "Dume" or "Hitchhiker" be another name for one of those?
Chrome Dreams definitely existed, I have a bootleg of it, and it think it might have even gone to test pressing before being pulled
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
yeah i think this is just in addition to those other ones -- Dume and I'm assuming Hitchiker are collections that have been recently put together, as opposed to albums that were sequenced and prepped back in the 70s.
but it's just crazy, does neil young even look at the internet? why does he care about a website. put out DUME on vinyl, that's all you need to do. it'll look and sound great!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
tbh I really love the version of "Hitchhiker" one Le Noise, I love the songs on that where the song quality actually rises to the level of the production and that vers. is p psychedelic
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link
yeah that one is great ... probably mentioned above, but neil's people talked about these coming out separatelyFour unreleased albums from this period are being rebuilt and will be available in the NYA Special Release Series. Chrome Dreams, Homegrown and Oceanside-Countryside are the three unreleased studio albums. Also from this period is the unreleased Odeon-Budokan live recording produced by David Briggs and Tim Mulligan. These albums initially will be released in vinyl from analog masters as they originally were created for that format.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
sweet i hope they stick to that plan
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
or better yet can Bob Dylan's management and production team stage a hostile takeover of Neil's archives and handle it from here on out?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
Just then, his Samsung phone rings; the ringtone is his own voice shouting "Hello?!"
<3 <3 <3
― Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link
Oh, man, what a bummer. If Neil is designing a website to play music, that means the internet is truly on the cusp of irrelevance. RIP internet.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link
http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/notescroll.html
― tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
holy shit
tyler do you know anything about this based on your recent writing/research etc?
cuz that sounds fucking amazing if true
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
though does this mean they aren't going to do physical stuff anymore??
Hm, he says you can "see" unreleased albums, but doesn't explicitly say you can stream them. It would be incredible, though, if he just dumped everything onto the site. And "associated...films and videos" would theoretically mean the '76 Crazy Horse tour...!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link