Yeah, I just caught that on the replay.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 May 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link
Sort of wish they went In a different direction with Ginsberg's character.
― soxahatchee (Treeship), Monday, 12 May 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link
liked that episode a lot
― call all destroyer, Monday, 12 May 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link
iirc megan has trouble in the fertility department (she miscarried), so maybe there's some jealousy over the pregnancy too.
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:14 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/465676115353546753
― balls, Monday, 12 May 2014 05:16 (ten years ago) link
The final scene with the three dudes and the cab put this quote into my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_GVfPuw4M
― Pono For Pyros (zero of the signified), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link
Cutler has become quite a loathsome character, it's true.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 May 2014 05:21 (ten years ago) link
this url
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-mad-men-the-runaways-its-my-nip-in-a-box
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link
That was genuinely horrifying and sad
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Monday, 12 May 2014 06:09 (ten years ago) link
Loved the 2001 ref tho
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Monday, 12 May 2014 06:10 (ten years ago) link
WAYLON GODDAMN JENNINGS
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 May 2014 09:49 (ten years ago) link
Cutler has become quite a loathsome character, it's true.― Johnny Fever, Monday, May 12, 2014 12:21 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Monday, May 12, 2014 12:21 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cutler was always loathsome--remember this was a guy who got off peeping on Stan fucking his freshly dead partner's hippie daughter, and even invited Peggy to watch with him.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 May 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link
#BettyDraperforPresident
― tsrobodo, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:32 (ten years ago) link
Threesome + nipple + only daddy + 2001 = another great episode
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm an Amy fan now
― akm, Monday, 12 May 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah when he offered up the box I said "please don't be a body part" and then oof
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
were computers really that threatening/game changing for advertising?
anyone buy the theory that Stephanie's baby daddy is the Wizard
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link
Megan's turned into Betty :/
― Roz, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
and just a year ago they were laughing at her swinging co-workers
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
i say this with no vindictiveness and it's totally cool if you are enjoying the show and yes, i can't seem to stop watching it eitherbut jeeeezus this show has gotten crazy stupid
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 May 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
it's gotten crazy - JUST LIKE THE 60s
this still had several irl LOL moments for me (Stan's "You?" Harry's "This is much more fun" etc)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
The day after, I think the Sally/Betty showdown was my favorite scene of the whole night.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
this show is now and always has been a dayglo fever dream and it's tremendous.
― ryan, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
Molly Lambert, good as usual on a Monday morning.
I feel like this whole half-season has focused on the creative, at-your-own pace and we'll get you something great...eventually approach to the 25 tags by noon, campaign by Wednesday, on the to the next one routinization approach to things. Possibly because I ALWAYS find myself fighting that fight - I'm getting pretty good at my job, and am having a much easier time turning out consistently quality work that gets to what it needs to, but there are those occasional assignments that I drag my heels on because I can't bring myself to just DO THE WORK and then it becomes a last-minute stressful test to see if I can actually pull it off.
Don seems to be moving himself into a position where he can take advantage of some opportunity to move on from his forced stasis. To where and doing what? I have no idea. However, compare this Don to the 9 a.m. Draper staring at his expensive watch in a big, empty apartment, and he's looks to me like he's getting ready to move.
I'm really curious about Peggy - she's so obviously got a good heart, but also knows that it is both a huge asset and a giant weakness. She has to really be frustrated at her lack of real agency in her life, and that the only thing that keeps her getting somewhere is to just keep dealing with other people's shit and shenanigans.
And poor Ginsberg. Dude just couldn't make it in the world that is.
― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 12 May 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Peggy watching TV w the neighbor kid was lol, she is totally settling into old maid-hood
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
they definitely planted the ginsburg stuff a long time ago, he was always pretty bananas and not just "eccentric." at the very least you got a sense of a very busy and convoluted inner life.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that character arc was set in motion back with his first monologue about being a holocaust baby
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
...from outer space, iirc.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
I prefer reading molly's recaps on grantland more than watching the actual show
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
so Don basically has to get rid of Cutler somehow right? cuz Cutler's gonna see intrusion on the meeting as an obvious grounds for firing, yes?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
That's if he wants to stay. Cutler's deal is to either freeze out the old SCDP gang, or at least get them under his thumb.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
Seems like it. Where's Don gonna go though? Doesn't seem very comfortable in LA, even if he wanted to just run off and start a new company with Pete and Harry
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link
Philip Morris comes on board, Don becomes indispensable. Don't see how else they can play this.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 12 May 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
this no longer seems like a company that will live or die on one account
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
They're not going to piss in Phil Morris' mouth twice.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 12 May 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
incidentallyLou: You know who had a ridiculous dream and people laughed at him?
Stan: You?
Me:http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1503/15037917/2442057-1627833308-mj-la.gif
the guy who plays lou is very convincingly uptight and hateful.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Cutler must feel kind of desperate to glom onto such a loser - but his other allies from his previous firm are dead/gone
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
i didn't buy don's performance or his bizarre "pitch" to philip morris (basically: "you get to be the folks that tamed don draper, won't that make your competition sore??")
he's appealing to their ids, essentially, hoping this will work better than lou and cutler's appeal to their egos. i mean sure corporate culture LOL but i don't buy that the tobacco dudes would, after having run the idea by their partners and thinking on it, really go for a don draper working their account.
seems like a hail-mary pass. but each season has to have some moment when don-draper-the-mover-and-shaker has some flabbergasting moment of inspired juju, although to the show's credit they often don't take very long to undermine that.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
i still wish this show was 95% about advertising.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
instead of "the 60s" or whatever. but i guess i can take that up w/ matt weiner.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if it's more that he found it hard to do more ad stuff or if his head just got big w/ all teh sixtiez chroniclerrrrr whatevers
because workplace plots absent rich frames for procedure, slotted-in content etc are not self-evidently teeming with fruitful story ideas
― j., Monday, 12 May 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
well sure "the 60s" would have to poke in plenty, just b/c there's a major shift in how advertising _works_ in that period, not unrelated to everything else going on. but i think that actually gets lost, or has gotten lost over the last few seasons, since advertising is only one of several major plot threads the show is insistent on following.
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
show's about the 70s and 80s now. what month did the last episode happen in? don's been back a little while, long enough for peggy to start to thaw towards him. may? june at the latest? guessing moon landing happens in the finale, or maybe that's next episode and we get to august. gulp.
― balls, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link
there's been plenty of ad stuff though interestingly nearly every major campaign they're working on is for a doomed client.
― balls, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link
I don't think there was a single contextual clue re: the date
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link
xpost
i dunno tobacco companies still making good money overseas
― espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 23:46 (ten years ago) link
Kodak wasn't doomed for decades!
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link
maybe you guys know ppl hitting a burger chef drive-thru in their chevy vega and enjoying a nice commander cigarette afterwards but i don't
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link