New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Most of this stuff is already getting integrated directly into the TV anyway. I don't think the boxes will totally die though, just because the hardware in these TVs and cable set-top boxes tends to suck in comparison to AppleTV, Tivo, etc.

the future of ios devices is iphones and ipads, though

― markers, Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:48 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ipads are dying bro, it's just phones all the way down from now on

lol "dying"

maybe not growing!

DJP somewhat otm! I have no idea wtf is going to happen in the television sphere, but there's going to be some sort of convergence.

if you're not busy being born imho

you're busy maintaining -- bob dylan

apple tv seems to be doing well for them. the ipod is not, and tim cook has said as much. the iphone is still doing very, very well. the ipad has sort of plateaued, and might get stuck there, but we'll see.

who knows about the iwatch. if it doesn't work out, that will be a clusterfuck.

the major two hardware projects on deck for apple right now seem to be the next generation apple tv and the iwatch. the latter will be out this fall, unless they massively fuck up. i think the problem with the former has to do more with eddy cue struggling to make deals than anything else

like, if they could present content in the way they wanted to to users today, the device would be released sooner rather than later. (depending on how far along they are with it)

well, you know who's good at dealing with media companies, right?

gruber said apple has the "a team" on the project (the tv one)

xpost eddy cue. (i'm guessing you're looking for jimmy iovine, but i don't know how well his expertise would transfer out of the music industry)

actually, fuck, they have bob iger on their board.

maybe bill campbell can go swear at someone.

you make all kinds of assumptions about other capabilities! I bet jimmy iovine would be able to deal with television as well as music

since neither of us know, let's ask him.

actually, i think i'm right that he won't be used for that. everything i've seen said he'd be used for music-related stuff at the company.

you can already watch time-warner cable on a roku, right?

downloading and season passes on the iPad has become a source of frustration..."you cannot redownload this" when I haven't downloaded anything, episodes not showing up in videos app, store is slow as shit, videos stay as 'processing' forever...what the fuck apple

256 GB iPod Classic option or gtfo

I really think Apple is missing an opportunity here. A 128/256/512GB click-wheel iPod with flash memory and somewhat smaller/lighter than the Classic wouldn't sell in massive quantities, but still would be plenty profitable and appeal to music fans who can't fit their collection on their 64GB iPhone in whatever space isn't already used by apps and videos, as well as those who prefer lossless audio. And signficantly, it would sell to people who already have an iPhone, which isn't true of the iPod touch.

A 512GB flash memory iPod would be obscenely expensive

I have a Roku 3 and a Fire TV on different TVs and can't imagine a standalone Apple TV being an improvement on either - Fire has the voice control and better interface, Roku currently has better 'channel' options, I prefer buying episodes and movies on Amazon vs Apple because I can play them on far more devices.

A 512GB flash memory iPod would be obscenely expensive

That would be for a future spec bump, so ppl would have something to upgrade to in 2 years. Right now a good-quality 128GB SD card costs about $75 so they could profitably build an iPod around it for what they now charge for the hard-drive Classic, a 256GB version could be $100 more. Of course Apple charges obscene money for memory upgrades ($100 for an extra 16GB - how do they get away with this?) so that would never happen. I still think a 128GB solid-state click-wheel iPod for about $349 would sell.

wouldn't sell in massive quantities, but still would be plenty profitable

lol this is not true, but even if it's true there's the opportunity cost of not working on other stuff, and also the reputation hit from being seen to be working in 2002

but they don't mind still selling an iPod with a hard drive in it in 2014?

it's like they still made an iMac with a CRT

but they don't mind still selling an iPod with a hard drive in it in 2014?

Yeah, but they keep very quiet about it.

they just want to see the market to its death at this point. plus why kill something when it's still making you money

they're not gonna kill it and have the narrative be: apple gave up on dedicated portable music players during their twilight and let shitty company X come in and take over what little was left of the market before it died. apple wants to be the one to see it out the door

which it should do, for reasons of history if not revenue, because the revenue ain't that much

i dont think thats the reason why.

plus, the ipod is an iconic product. i don't know how you're supposed to go about killing it, and i'm not sure apple does either, especially since they've only killed products, not major product lines, since the return of steve jobs.

apple has never been shy about killing things off and has never ever cared about "seeing things out the door"

well see the thing i just posted

they've only killed products, not major product lines, since the return of steve jobs

ipod mini, which was replaced. cube, which was not. hifi, which was a failed experiment. macbook, which was replaced with the air.

idvd. iweb. former incarnations of icloud.

but not the mac, ipod, iphone, or ipad line in toto.

i wouldn't be surprised if the ipod goes out with just a press release (or perhaps even nothing!), but man, that'd be something

i think killing all the ipods would be a deal. people were writing goodbyes to it a few months ago, weren't they? and apple hasn't even killed it yet. but when they do, perhaps they'd take the step of doing so on stage.

if they kill the ipod, but keep the ipod touch, they will have killed a product but not a product line!

yes, that is true. (if by "ipod" you mean classic, nano, and shuffle. or any one or combination of those)

anything that plays music and does apps w/o being a phone or tablet is an ipod

There are many business applications for iPod Touch which, although not very lucrative, would represent Apple nodding in the direction of business and education (as it always does) if the Touch were to stay in the lineup.

they've only killed products, not major product lines, since the return of steve jobs

Since the return of SJ they've killed the Newton, Printers and Cameras product lines.

rip LaserWriter

haha ya i thought you meant since jobs' death

basically the most famous thing steve jobs did was shut down almost all of their product lines!

jesus christ guys that was in what, 1997? when he was changing around the company?