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some would argue the 5c itself was a mistake.

yes

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/WhatTheBit/status/466579825906683904

if you have *really* big hands you could still reach everything with your two thumbs i guess

Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link

it would be interesting if they did do an ipad pro. i don't know how well it'd sell. they killed the 17" macbook pro, which was an outlier, and i kinda feel like this would be an outlier too

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

i cant figure out how it would be "pro"

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

lets be honest here, the ipad is never going to be a "professional" machine.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

apple bloggers like to crow about dudes finger-painting new yorker covers on them but it's never gonna be a dedicated work machine for an actual creative professional.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

hahaha.

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

i cant figure out how it would be "pro"

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:22 AM

the size? a better processor? idk!

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

i've just heard they're working on it

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

maybe people can look at blueprints and shit on it and a bigger screen is better than that

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

who knows

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link

would def have to be bigger

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link

the only new hardware products it's obvious they're working on and will probably release that immediately come to mind are the iwatch and some sort of new apple tv box and/or set or whatever

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

the iwatch will come out this fall. i think that's obvious. the tv, i doubt it

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

i wouldn't be surprised if the apple events this year were: wwdc, iphone/ipad, iwatch.

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

i still have a hard time imagining why and how a watch would be good

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

all i know is that it's very very likely it's coming out

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

the tv box apple wants to build is being held up by content providers who are in bed with the cable companies that are bypassed by tv-over-IP, and has been for years

Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

dont forget big pharma

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

i do wonder how they're going to market the Healthbook app and iWatch health features - they can't make many claims for its capabilities without lots of disclaimers that it can't function as a medical device, which would require complex FDA approval procedures (or from their counterparts outside the US)

Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

hey markers, they killed xserve, which was a whole new apple product released post-return of Jobs, and a hardware platform, at that

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

ping had a short life

Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link

apple basically turned their backs to an entire segment of the computer market that they thought they'd get into! probably a good idea, but it was something they delved into, yet again.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link

!

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link

hey markers, they killed xserve, which was a whole new apple product released post-return of Jobs, and a hardware platform, at that

― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:41 AM

not on the level of the others.

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link

did they consider it a separate line? if they did, good job, you found one

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link

i was actually watching part of the intro video for that the other night.

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link

I wasn't trying to find anything! I was just kind of sad when they discontinued that. The model identifier was "RackMac" for them. They were different enough hardware-wise to be a distinct product from the Mac Pro.

Mac OS X Server has been phased out in a way in that it's a feature pack you add on to a base OS X install rather than a distinct OS installer.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link

afaik apple's own server farms don't run any variant of OS X and are mostly using the same hardware as every other company. it was wise, imo, to drop that segment, but it's still something that had strong NeXT roots (Jobs' baby!) and got dropped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebObjects has a similar arc

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link

lol webobjects

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

someone brought that up in the context of the xserve announcement in the video i was watching

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

also, i thought icloud was running on AZURE, in part

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUdHQH99An0

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

really? I mean, it's possible, but Apple owns their own data centers. I think you're confusing iCloud data storage and whatever thing those dudes making that Vesper app rolled together.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

imo azure makes sense if you're a low/mid-tier application developer who just needs a service backend for an application, but if you're a large business, you're probably going to want to have a more robust backend

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

also eMac

caek, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

I think you're confusing iCloud data storage and whatever thing those dudes making that Vesper app rolled together.

i thought the data centers were relying partially on microsoft stuff

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

unggh

caek, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

i know gruber's using azure, but i thought apple was too

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

yo mh: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/02/04/icloud-azure

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

I think I heard they're using Azure as well for iCloud (the document and Core Data APIs). The data centres are for all the rest, the stores in particular

stet, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

webobjects was boss, btw. I would still like the objc version back.

stet, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

kind of odd but makes some sense

also, yes, webobjects is cool

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

also, lol at caek remembering the eMac
:)

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link

i have an emate in my room

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

anyone remember the PowerCD?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Apple_PowerCD.jpg/220px-Apple_PowerCD.jpg

yes, Apple had a standalone digital music player before the iPod, a portable CD player/CD-ROM drive. Now Apple wants optical discs to go away completely.

Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link

afaik iCloud is a blend of Azure, AWS, and Apple-owned infra, depending on the region etc.

axe douche for men (silby), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link

seems kinda pathetic. like, google and facebook don't do that, do they?

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

no, but google and facebook are primarily providers of services on the internet. apple definitely has a lot of traffic as far as the store goes, but bootstrapping new stuff off of existing infrastructure makes sense.

if icloud services were their main profit center, then sure it'd be dumb to host externally

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

how surprised would you be if they eventually took it solo? i wouldn't be

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link


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