@TonyPaul1984Interesting. #Rangers GM Jon Daniels says neither Fielder, Kinsler took physicals in trade. Showed how badly #Tigers wanted Prince out.
― Andy K, Saturday, 17 May 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Road warriors
Porcello on his way to a WTF ASG start
Avila's OBP higher than that of Cabrera
― Andy K, Sunday, 18 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link
Are the Tigers just playing exceptionally well, or are they good enough to win 105-110 games? The rotation would seem to be at least the equal of what the Phillies had that one year.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 May 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
Even 100 seems unlikely, but...how many times have recent Red Sox teams been swept at home while being held to three or fewer runs (in a three-game series)?
― Andy K, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:46 (nine years ago) link
I think you’re overcompensating because it’s your team, Andy. (And I’m jumping the gun, I know.) In the ’85 Abstract, James went through a position-by-position comparison (plus spot starters/bullpen support, plus bench) of the ’84 Tigers to the great teams of the then-recent past: ’77 Yankees, ’76 Reds, ’73 A’s, ’70 Orioles, ’67 Cardinals, and ’61 Yankees. He ended up with the ’84 Tigers in 5th place, 47-43, ahead of the Cardinals and Yankees. Who have been the greatest World-Series winning teams since then? ’98 Yankees, ’95 Braves, ’89 A’s, ’86 Mets, and one of the Blue Jays (sorry), Cardinals, and Red Sox teams. I’ll try a quick match-up of this year’s Tigers against the ’84 team.
C – Parrish vs. Avila: ’841B – Dave Bergman vs. Cabrera: I don’t think Cabrera’s ever going to be as dominant again, but obviously not close2B – Whitaker vs. Kinsler: ’84, not close, but Kinsler is a good player playing well3B – Howard Johnson vs. Castellanos: ’84, although HoJo wasn’t anywhere near the player he’d become with the MetsSS – Trammell vs. Romine: lopsidedLF – Larry Herndon vs. Davis: ’84CF – Chet Lemon vs. Jackson: ’84, but pretty close by WAR (I’m looking at ’84 plus the previous 2-3 seasons)RF – Gibson vs. Hunter: close again...drawDH – Darrell Evans vs. Martinez: based solely on this year, ’14; more realistically, either a draw or edge to ’84
Sizable advantage to the ’84 team based on position players—the only clear win for the ’14 team is at first base.
#1 Starter – Morris vs. Verlander (I know you could say Scherzer...trying to step back a bit): ’14#2 Starter – Petry vs. Scherzer: ’14, but Petry was good for a few years
If you switch Verlander and Scherzer, same result.
#3 Starter – Milt Wilcox vs. Sanchez: ’14#4 Starter – Juan Berenguer vs. Porcello: ’14#5 Starter – Dave Rozema vs. Smyley: ’14 (Rozema was quite good early in his career, but by ’84, edge to this year’s team)Closer – Willie Hernandez vs. Nathan: Hernandez got the two awards he didn’t deserve that year (he did pitch 140 innings, so you could make a non-WAR case for Cy Young...2.5 WAR behind Stieb and Blyleven), but I’d rather have Nathan
Don’t know this year’s Tigers well enough to do bench or rest-of-bullpen. The ’84 team got a great year out of Aurelio Lopez in long relief (10-1, 2.94).
Didn’t really need to do all that, did I? ’84 team, much stronger starting eight + DH; ’14, much stronger pitching. I’ll say this year’s team wins 103.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
Still Whitaker, of course, but let me amend Kinsler to very good player playing very well.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
That's funny -- a friend of mine and I were comparing this team to the '84 team the other day. I figured the '84 team had a slight edge in offense and a significant edge in defense, with '14 pitching way ahead. Hard to truly compare teams 30 years apart though.
― Andy K, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
@Dan_DickersonThe slightly surreal scene on shuttle bus at 3am after plane troubles in Boston sent #Tigers back to hotel...in Zubaz pic.twitter.com/Z6fT8Ghdfb
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoAX--kIEAA2pDP.jpg
― Andy K, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
Uh.
@beckjason#Tigers still at hotel in Boston. First pitch in Cleveland is in 6 1/2 hours. Travel might end up being their toughest test of the trip.
― Andy K, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
I docked the '14 team many points for those frightening get-ups; '84 Tigers now safely ahead.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
Zubaz are this year's beards.
― peepee, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
http://sports.yahoo.com/loop/mlb-340518102-991921089
― peepee, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/0/4/4/76015044/cuts/tigers_zubaz1280_mvu653gf_97s02zfw.jpg
― Andy K, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
Those two knucklehead throw-ins Dombrowski acquired as part of the Fister deal: combined sub-1.00 WHIP, with only two walks, in 26.2 IP.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, Detroit, my fault.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link
bases loaded balk? kewl
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
Wrap Phil Coke and Tim Timmons in Zubaz, fire them into the sun.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
See you in Toledo, Verlander.
― Andy K, Sunday, 25 May 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
Nine runs in 5.1 IP?
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I’ll say this year’s team wins 103.― clemenza, Monday, May 19, 2014 10:14 AM
...posted seconds before the ongoing meltdown. Proving yet again that:
1) it goes to show you never can tell2) baseball is a funny game3) the minute you think you have something figured out, you don't
― clemenza, Sunday, 25 May 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
@TonyPaul1984First time #Tigers have allowed 10-plus in three consecutive games since July 2007. They NEVER did that in 2003, by the way.
― Andy K, Monday, 26 May 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link
FITE
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140603/SPORTS0104/306030018
It was an incredible finish, to be sure. The teams had met seven times in the last 11 days of the season, Toronto taking the first three and Detroit the last four. Each game — and this is absolutely amazing — was decided by a single run. And in those seven games, besides the 1-0 shutout, the team that scored first lost every time.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
(That's an article about the Tigers-Blue Jays' 1980s rivalry. The quote regards 1987.)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
clemenza are those all old-school book titles? I only recognize Garagiola's.
love how you guys are turning into Mets fans in refusal to believe.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
(Toronto fans i mean)
refusing to believe what now?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
that Jays are playoffs-bound
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
Nice Sanchez-Hutchison duel: combined 14 innings, five hits, 12 Ks, no walks.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link
Joba breezed through the eighth on nine pitches. Not sure why struggling Nathan entered to start the ninth.
Probably Ausmus' first true what-the-hell move.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link
exciting ninth inning
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
i certainly enjoyed it!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link
Changing the channel after Nathan walked the first batter was a great idea. (You know a reliever is in bad shape when he wants a call on a pitch well outside the zone.) Unfortunately, I didn't follow through on it.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link
eugenio suarez time
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
@TonyPaul1984Of note, Omar Vizquel's pseudo career as a scout not off to a good start. He recommended both Gonzalez and Romine to #Tigers brass.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
Shortstops: .191/.244/.240
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
still better than jedd gyorko, god bless him
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
BLOW IT UP
― Andy K, Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
With their seventh round pick in the 2014 First-Year Player Draft, the Detroit Tigers select third baseman Joey Pankake from the University of South Carolina.
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 June 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Drew Smyly's approach: challenge each hitter with an 0-2 fastball over the heart of the plate.
― Andy K, Friday, 6 June 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
@jpankakePretty upset with this confusing hotel. Couldn't even find my room!
Seems sharp.
― Andy K, Friday, 6 June 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
@jpankakeI'm 21 and I still don't know how long to put food in the microwave for... smh
― Andy K, Friday, 6 June 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
Some of Torii's routes have been absolutely bizarre.
― Andy K, Saturday, 7 June 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link
Alex Avila is hurt.
― Andy K, Saturday, 7 June 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpfaQDBCIAA0sk-.jpg
― Andy K, Saturday, 7 June 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
Torii Hunter and Nick Castellanos hit back-to-back singles.
Harold Reynolds objects to Austin Jackson not bunting.
Austin Jackson walks.
― Andy K, Sunday, 8 June 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
Ausmus just played for one run...in the fifth...at the Cell.
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
(That run did not happen.)
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link
Which team would like Justin Verlander?
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 June 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
i will give you edinson volquez for him, no questions asked
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 June 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
Also, he just threw over 120 pitches without finishing the sixth.
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 June 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByUyqSgIgAAxikd.jpg
― Andy K, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
@scottmerkinRobin said Ausmus should worry about his own team and Sale is not "weak"
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
@beckjasonTigers announce Miguel Cabrera had surgery, not just for bone spurs in ankle but for stress fracture in navicular bone at top of foot.
― Andy K, Friday, 24 October 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/every-pitcher-from-the-2014-tigers-rotation-is-now-a-world-series-champion
― Andy K, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link