MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

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Didn't realise My Way was new in 69! I would've pegged it as at least a decade earlier somehow.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link

Not quite as big a hit as I'd have thought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1969

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

So unusual for a male/female relationship (Don/Peggy) on TV to last this long without the show taking the easy way out.

calstars, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:31 (nine years ago) link

Ron and Leslie on Parks & Rec is another really great platonic relationship.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

It's not over yet.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

Bob could still blow Don.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

ha!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

As much sex as Don has, he still seems fairly vanilla. He branched out a little bit with the neighbor lady last year, but he was probably less into than she was.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

And he wasn't super into the idea of the threesome at Megan's place in Cali, but hey...hard to turn down if it's happening.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

He's into being slapped

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

I don't see how a man like Don Draper could turn down Bob's request.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

i'd take a bet on Don and Joan at this point; Don saying he has no-one, Joan saying she wants love. i mean..


http://unaffiliatedcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Don-Jon-Hamm-and-Joan-Christina-Hendricks.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link

Now that I think about it, he doesn't outright say "no" to much.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link

Joan and Don may have happened at one point, but I think after he was pretty flippant about cutting loose the client she had to sleep with to get her partnership, she's got zero time for anything Don in her life.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Right. Joan hates Don still and seems on the fast track to hating men in general.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link

actually yeah they've barely spoken since.

was that 'Sweet Charity' on the in-flight movie? it was a real blink-and-you-miss-it moment.

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

tasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=814QdW4oDqI

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link

Given that title, something that should be but won't be part of that ep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnHmBvMJPXo

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link

Ted Chaough's had a lousy season thus far.

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 04:45 (nine years ago) link

xp maybe this is the big time-jump we've been waiting for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

i enjoy ted's misery tbh

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link

If the point is that Ted somehow somewhere became a halfway decent person and is paying the price for it, sure.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

i never really found him to be halfway decent

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link

he's a real dick to Don at first

famous instagram God (waterface), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link

ted jumping in on the speaker phone was a+ comedy

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link

No, I meant he used to be a grade-A asshole in the earlier seasons, but somewhere along the way during S6 he became only a B-minus dillweed.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link

he's slept with Peggy, he's married, he thinks he's better than all of them (because he doesn't drink or whatevs but he's not)

famous instagram God (waterface), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

The evolution of Peggy disengaging from Ted to her kind of dismissively loathing him has been enjoyable

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

ted is sympathetic though. good casting

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link

Yeah he just has a likable manner.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

he projects intelligence in a good way. imo.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link

I think it's Pete's facial expression that pushes it over.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

Pete's weird insistence that he can have someone but Trudy can't because they're technically still married is some annoying bullshit, but his waiting at the house until she got back so he could act all jealous and smarmy put me back in the Pete-as-asshole camp

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

shit dude, can't you show a little confidence for more than a few episodes

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

haha

Don will never get w Joan, you think he's gonna get between Sterling and their love child? gtfo

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Wait, Don doesn't know does he? Joan and Roger keep a tight TIGHT lid on that shit.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

idk, if anyone thought about it for more than a few minutes they might figure it out

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

shit, Bob probably has, he could drop it as he leaves

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

shit, Bob probably has, he could drop it as he leaves

he's the type who'd flush though

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

if anyone thought about it for more than a few minutes they might figure it out

yeah I don't think Don knows but anyone doing the math on when she conceived/delivered would figure it out. Also yeah Joan obviously not into Don lately.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

It has taken years for Joan to ascend to this level, years during which she's walked a pushy interloper like Peggy rise. She's not sullying herself for the likes of Draper.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

Or solidifying her personal life by marrying a gay man for the sake of appearances

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, how long was Joan at the original Sterling Cooper before Peggy's first day (the pilot)? Long enough to already have a fully developed and comfortable relationship with Roger.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

Pete's weird insistence that he can have someone but Trudy can't because they're technically still married is some annoying bullshit, but his waiting at the house until she got back so he could act all jealous and smarmy put me back in the Pete-as-asshole camp

― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:47 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is completely consistent w/ pete's character over the seasons.

i still have mixed feelings about this show, i feel like all the portentousness and critic-bait (like obvious, "meaningful" repeated motifs, bombastic episode closings) is just getting worse but from scene to scene or moment to moment the show is still capable of cagey little observations/revelations of character that are deeply pleasurable. reading the commentaries on each episode the next day make me hate the show, because all the speculation as to "what was this episode about?" or "what is this season about?" just recapitulate the worst tendencies of film criticism.

personally i feel like this show could actually be one of the best on TV ever _if_ it stopped trying to be one of the best on TV ever. there's a level of self-consciousness, of playing to the critics, that makes it just as annoying as it is great. but my idea of great TV is "taxi," so YMMV.

display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

i really think they just need to cut off the betty character, I guess they can't at this point but what a waste of time her subplots are.

stan is the most entertaining character on the show not to really have had his own subplot. even ginsberg had a few scenes to himself (or with his dad, etc.).

display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

all we know about stan is his moshe dayan poster.

display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm totally cool with Stan remaining a mystery.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

i still have mixed feelings about this show, i feel like all the portentousness and critic-bait (like obvious, "meaningful" repeated motifs, bombastic episode closings) is just getting worse but from scene to scene or moment to moment the show is still capable of cagey little observations/revelations of character that are deeply pleasurable

Agreed, although this season is an improvement (he season after Draper married Megan taht opened with his reading Dante on the beach almsot made me hurl the remote at the TV). What's left are less offensive portentous bits like the women's-lib/Friedan dialogue with which Betty is saddled.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i'm fine w/ it too, just interesting that the writers haven't chosen to do anything with him plotwise even though they've slowly made him into something like a rounded character.

display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link


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