Spotify - anyone heard of it?

ya

So looking at the new win/mac apps, they have this plus/check thing that adds songs to "Your Music", which would be a decent substitute for the Starred list, but "Your Music" is already the best place to save Albums (instead of creating playlists for each album). So when you go to Songs under "Your Music," you see all the songs of all the albums you've saved as well. I want my songs to be like a singles list. I could do that if I removed all albums from "Your Music."

I also detest that it is called "Your Music." It's not my music, I'm just renting it until you go out of business.

Also in Windows, lately, sometimes when you Start Radio, it defaults back to the last Radio you Started. Kind of a mess. Also I hate how every Radio you Start is now saved as some kind of station - clutter, clutter, clutter, especially since I start a lot of stations just by clicking on some random thing in a playlist, looking for new stuff of the same kind. I really don't need fifty different similar-sounding stations.

idk how they manage to fuck this up more with every update

I also detest that it is called "Your Music." It's not my music, I'm just renting it until you go out of business.

QFT. This is awesome.

Ha. Hate that term whenever it is used.

"QFT" or "Your Music"?

"Your [Cultural Object of Choice]"

There is always something vaguely patronizing about it, even when or maybe even especially when it is meant to be sympathetic.

do u see?

I made a playlist called "starred tracks" and it worked fine for me, but if you're starring shit left and right, the extra click might be too much hassle

Did they finally do away with default Starred playlist altogether? I still have the Starred Playlist on my phone, and have gotten used to extra click.

(Xp)
May be reading too much into it, but said location at its worst can convey an implication of the most naive sort of fandom delivered in the grating tone of the most cringeworthy cheer-up pep talk.

"I've been thinking about this, Mr. Hand. If you're here listening to it and I'm here listening to it, don't you think this is Our Music?"

implicit contract with "My Music", I now have the right to sell it as granted by Spotify
let's get this party started

huh, this looks pretty fucked up:
http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/youtube-sparks-indie-revolt-over-indefensible-terms/058532

hmm I'd upgrade that to "super fucked up", damn

similar to the way amazon has bullied even huge publishers likes elsevier

jfc that's crazy

Here's another thing I miss about starring songs. If I want to add a song to the Starred playlist, I can't quickly look at it and see if it is already added. The visual marker in my playlist isn't there. So I end up with duplicates on my Starred playlist, which is UNACCEPTABLE.

I thought the starred list didn't allow duplicates

Important Notice to Our Users
May 27th, 2014 15:00 by Oskar Stål, CTO, Spotify

We’ve become aware of some unauthorized access to our systems and internal company data and we wanted to let you know the steps we’re taking in response. As soon as we were aware of this issue we immediately launched an investigation. Information security and data protection are of great importance to us at Spotify and that is why I’m posting today.

Our evidence shows that only one Spotify user’s data has been accessed and this did not include any password, financial or payment information. We have contacted this one individual. Based on our findings, we are not aware of any increased risk to users as a result of this incident.

We take these matters very seriously and as a general precaution will be asking certain Spotify users to re-enter their username and password to log in over the coming days.

As an extra safety step, we are going to guide Android app users to upgrade over the next few days. If Spotify prompts you for an upgrade, please follow the instructions. As always, Spotify does not recommend installing Android applications from anywhere other than Google Play, Amazon Appstore or https://m.spotify.com/. At this time there is no action recommended for iOS and Windows Phone users.

Please note that offline playlists will have to be re-downloaded in the new version. We apologise for any inconvenience this causes, but hope you understand that this is a necessary precaution to safeguard the quality of our service and protect our users.

We have taken steps to strengthen our security systems in general and help protect you and your data – and we will continue to do so. We will be taking further actions in the coming days to increase security for our users.

I thought the starred list didn't allow duplicates

― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're right! My outrage was before testing. I still miss the quick visual reminder though.

Here's a question... I am a weirdo and don't want any of my playlists to be visible on my profile. But I also have a bunch of ILXor or friends' playlists that I've subscribed to, and some of them appear to be shared playlists. If I choose "Make Secret" instead of "Make Public" on another ILXor's playlist, will that make it secret for them as well, or just for me?

ashamed ilxor

just for you you weirdo

thx pal

why don't you want ppl to see your playlists?

i don't want ppl to see my playlists because my playlists are my personal fun time just for me

Most of my playlists are just garbage piles full of stuff I want to check out. I'd rather my public playlists be somewhat curated.

Also what crut said.

or you want to crib some jams off "Mordy's rolling hot traxxx 2014" w/o getting caught just sayin

Not entirely incorrect

haha

totes flattered if that's the case

I don't follow any Mordy playlists but I'm sure they're excellent.

Another horribly designed thing: in order to view a list of other users you follow (like other ILXors who have interesting playlists), you have to, as far as I can tell, click on your user name in the upper right corner (in about a 9 point font), click "profile", and then click "following". Maybe I'm dumb, but I never would have figured that out without googling. This basic function is hidden down as deeply as advanced settings would be in the UIs of most applications.

spotify has always totally sucked at social, it's kind of astounding. soundcloud basically has it down cold.

I like the social feed in the windows app. Just glance at it and I can always see what JAYMC is listening to.

when are they gonna update the iPad app? Can't play all the stuff I've moved to my music since that app is still stuck with the playlist system

i would like that as well

New iOS update very laggy. Here we go again.

when are they gonna update the iPad app? Can't play all the stuff I've moved to my music since that app is still stuck with the playlist system

Another beer with "Your Music" is that you can't sort by artist. Hell if I know what an artist's album is called most of the time. You can go to artist, but they aren't broken up by album there.

beer, not beer. Beef. Beer is better than spotify.

spotify is almost as good

dear chik-fil-a your homophobe company cow ads stopped being funny close to eighteen years ago, please stop it, signed everybody

I foolishly downloaded the most recent iOS update and it went from working smoothly to completely hosed. It is back to very slow, laggy behavior and now crashes every 10-15 minutes. I don't get exactly what this new update was meant to achieve but it basically broke the app for me.

as the sort of rube to whom world cup playlists appeal, I was curious about the spotify one. there's been some effort put in & it's very long but it seems mostly terrible

Hey! 20 questions, DRINK LADY.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/business/media/free-music-at-least-while-it-lasts.html?ref=business&_r=1

If you're interested in how Spotify pays, it's described in detail here: http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/

Van Dyke Parks quotes a rate of .00065, but the average royalty rate is actually about $.007, which is 10x what he said. He also hypothesizes 100,000 streams in his example, and I think means that to represent a very successful song (since he's comparing it to some hypothetical past song that would have earned him a house). But this not a very high figure in Spotify terms. Pharrell's "Happy", which is a big current hit but hasn't been around very long, has 164,000,000 plays on Spotify, which at $.007/stream is over $1,000,000. The least popular tracks on Pharrell's album have more than 3,000,000 plays each, which is worth ~$21k each.

Charli XCX's "Boom Clap", to pick another current example less dramatic than "Happy", has 462k plays, which is worth $3234 so far, for a song that is just getting started.

And the huge, huge detail that Parks doesn't mention is that Spotify has (according to the most recent data I've seen) about 6% share of the US streaming music market. So if you're using Spotify royalties as a proxy for the whole streaming industry, you better multiply by 16. So how does $52k sound for Charli XCX's stray soundtrack single, which I imagine could have been written in a weekend? And that's before we talk about any non-streaming revenue sources, like merchandise, soundtrack placements in the first place, live shows, downloads and physical media, etc.

So while it's still definitely not trivial to make a living as a musician, especially if you only want to work 1 weekend a year, it's nowhere near as insanely bleak as Van Dyke Parks makes it sound.

Oh, but crucially, these are the amounts Spotify is paying for the music it is playing. That money, of course, usually goes to record labels. The % that goes from record label to artist is a different problem. But a preexisting problem that has nothing to do with Spotify...