i mean this isn't exactly termite art we're talking about.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
for me the discussion around the show seems like less of an issue than that the show itself is simply rather mannered and even surreal (sorta). so those moments simply play as a aesthetic choice rather than Bourdeiun social positioning. as an aesthetic choice they tend to play for me the way such things always have: a way for the work to acknowledge itself as art or fiction and invite interpretation. this can be done more or less elegantly, but not more or less authentically.
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
another angle to view this from: in a way the folks who create Mad Men ARE their audience(s); they share a lot of the same understanding and expectations of art, and probably trade in some of the same methods of interpretation and analysis. so it stands to reason that they would put the show together in a such a way that it calls for the sort of exegesis practiced by critics and audience members.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
I dunno this just seems like a lot of empty conjecture about intentions to me
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
ok, roland.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I've been really high on My Way from last episode. And then last night I discussed old pop songs with a friend, and was reminded of how perfectly I Got You Babe ended season four. And was just reading the Revolver-thread in here, and yeah, Tomorrow Never Knows was so amazing in season five. And oh yeah, Don't Think Twice, That's Alright in season one!!! This show really has some incredibly musical moments.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
Waylon from a couple episodes ago probably my favorite, such a fucking cool tune and not super well-known or well-worn either
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
and of course, perfectly calibrated with the episode
my way is a really pretty song, although i can't help but wish jimmy durante had wrapped his vocal cords around it at some point.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link
the show itself is simply rather mannered and even surreal
theyve gone a long way in getting back to this quality during the last few episodes and it's reminded me what i loved about the show in the first place
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
i see that the writing team for the last episode of this half season is Carly Wray and Matt Weiner. they've only written together once before and that was the finale of Season 6 so i'm guessing the next ep is pretty.. finale-ish.
― piscesx, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
To quote the strokes (and why not?), the end has no end
― calstars, Thursday, 22 May 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
i think i have a reflexive taste for meaningful stuff because i find it disarming. like "oh nice they're going for it, good for them."
― ryan, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah absolutely. its charming, almost. the show has been way mannered and "do you SEE" from the start, which has always been its appeal for me. i was actually disappointed it got less cold and sociological over the years. it felt like a tribute to the fiction from that period, and the way it grappled with social change -- like it was trying to recapture that internal view of uncertainty and potential, but from a distance.
and its never felt disingenuous to me at all, it just wears that approach on its sleeve for those who notice. the forward movement in time took us out of that literary era too, so now its hard for me to see how they could really recapture that even if they wanted to. the betty stuff comes closest, and some of the stuff with the daughter.
the computer stuff is all very "desk set" of course.
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Thursday, 22 May 2014 04:56 (nine years ago) link
just to go back to pete for a second, he has always been affable and puppyish, even charming, with dudes & "mixed company" and a complete monster to women
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 May 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
Pete when he's wronged/scared/cornered is just a whole other level. he might be my favorite actor of the group, the way he pulls of a character that is just so incredibly unlikeable and punchable is really impressive to me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
cool lil tiki bar there
― just sayin, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
it even had glowing eyes
― just sayin, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
"I'm drinking rum!"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
lol at 'i'm drinking rum!'
― caek, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
someone on Reddit wrote:
In my dream scenario, Bob and Sal meet at The Stonewall, come out unscathed and AMC produces a Mad Men sitcom spin off around Bob and Sal.
― piscesx, Friday, 23 May 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/neko-case-dont-peggy-olson-me-motherf-uckers
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 May 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
li'l Stan:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVneGsCcAE6FHh.jpg
― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/4/25/16/enhanced-buzz-20170-1366920060-13.jpg
― balls, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
and any excuse will do
http://i.imgur.com/kUsWE85.png
http://i.imgur.com/tcrNSHx.jpg
― balls, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
john slattery
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/638871/thumbs/o-JOHN-SLATTERY-570.jpg?6
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt9okmOc1K1qac09wo1_250.jpg
― balls, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
omg lil goth xtina is adorable
― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link
This seems like a good time to bring up the factoid that Jon Hamm was Ellie "Erin from The Office" Kemper's high school drama teacher. No pix tho.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
http://www.stlmag.com/Blogs/SLM-Daily/March-2012/10-Things-You-Might-Not-Know-About-Jon-Hamm/hamm1.jpg
― balls, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
Ha! Awesome!
― calstars, Saturday, 24 May 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link
goth xtina is my style icon.
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Saturday, 24 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link
A friend of mine in middle school was so in love with Vincent Kartheiser. Or as she called him, "Vinnie".
Kinda bummed me out when I found out recently that Jay Ferguson was the guy in Leonardo DiCaprio's Pussy Posse who harassed Elizabeth Berkley back in the 90s.
― Roz, Saturday, 24 May 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link
http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tumblr_mn3frnej8r1qdana6o1_400.gif?w=650
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:32 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHREFdQiTc
― Alba, Saturday, 24 May 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link
Jay Ferguson was the guy in Leonardo DiCaprio's Pussy Posse who harassed Elizabeth Berkley back in the 90s.
i just looked up the article on this--how disappointing and gross.
― funny unconscious rocks creating your consciousness with free choice (reddening), Saturday, 24 May 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link
so stoked for the final ep of the year. this 2 mini-seasons thing has really worked!
― piscesx, Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
lol i've seen that hendricks episode of undressed, it's pretty funny.
anyhow watching old generally awful burger chef commercials i came across this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntKxJoJBs98
and my jaw dropped cuz i HAD THOSE POSTERS when i was a very small kid. i remembered the posters clearly and in my memory we got them from burger king but i think that's just cuz i knew we got the empire and jedi glasses from there. anyhow long story short: i apparently dragged my parents to burger chef a few times when i was very very young.
― balls, Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
Another early Hendricks appearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEUWx4LA7jU
You can guess what most of the comments are about.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 May 2014 03:28 (nine years ago) link
90s hot
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 May 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Bob Benson
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 25 May 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
It seems appropriate that he's going to Buick, as 'Bob Benson' sounds like the name of Midwestern dealer, as in "I got a great deal on this new Regal at Bob Benson Buick in St. Louis!"
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 May 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
well, here's our moon landing
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 May 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
"Every time an old man talks about Napoleon you know it's the end."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 May 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link
Robert Morse bringing back his How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying style. Loved this episode.
― DonkeyTeeth, Monday, 26 May 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
Loved that ending!
― *tera, Monday, 26 May 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEXE3oT3KA
― polyphonic, Monday, 26 May 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
Lol, this show
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 May 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link
easily in my Top 5 episodes.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 May 2014 06:03 (nine years ago) link
aw that was lovely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 May 2014 08:28 (nine years ago) link
The rhythm and pace of the episode = first-rate.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 May 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link
this was great at every level, from the funny or intimate little details (peggy with the neighbour's kid, harry being a chump) to the very sweeping narrative. i think the model for roger and harry's relationship is hermes and dr zoidberg.
it would be an amusing touch if after all of that charles manson foreshadowing megan just doesn't appear and is never mentioned again.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 26 May 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link