last episode was as close as this show was gonna get to covering stonewall
― balls, Monday, 26 May 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Morse's exit interview: http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/2014/05/qa-robert-morse-bertram-cooper-2
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 May 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
I didn't know Morse had a background in musicals - halway through the routine I was like, wow this guy can really move and sing.
Also - a great payoff to the seven-series-long sock gag
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 May 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
One of the best moments: Don Draper looking proudly at Peggy during the pitch, then when she mentions going home to a ten-year old boy his brow furrows. And Pete is lost as well.
― Frederik B, Monday, 26 May 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
Pete looked more uncomfortable to me than lost.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link
Maybe they're going to throw a real curveball next half season and set it at the end of the five year contracts?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
whoever said pacing upthread was otm, that was just really good television.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
XP: I was thinking that too! The biggest issue would be making up Sally, and of course they'd need a new Bobby and Gene.
Jumping ahead 5 years would put them in the neighborhood of the Nixon resignation.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
supposedly Matt Wiener made some reference to the setting it in the 70s in that Colbert interview but it isn't anywhere online in the UK so i haven't seen the damn thing.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
i'm trying to figure out how sincere don's pitch to ted was--he seemed to rediscover some love of work this half-season and also has seemed genuine abt passing the torch to peggy.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link
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― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link
'How Much Money Did Each of SC&P's Partners Make Last Night?'
http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/mad-men-how-much-did-each-of-the-partners-make.html
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link
Xp which reminds me, they missed covering Stonewall this season.
i feel like it was subtext to the conversation between bob and the account guy he rescued from jail.
also, re cougars tee, i thought this too!
also this season has been excellent, and this episode was just wonderful throughout. i don't want this show to end.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link
H'mmm, from miracle $ave of all (Roger most improbably rising to the occasion and then some, but death of Bet, his father's partner and original agency's co-founder, was a huge change, demanding a huge response), to Draper's being told "The best things in life are free" by a dead man (the first dead man he's seen who is happy): that's quite a change too--and seems like a challenge, maybe. Last glimpse of D.: sitting down and thinking about it; looks like he may be caving in a little? This whole ep is its own kind of happy, happy, happy (clap along)cliffhanger.So Cutler warns Ted, "Remember what happened the last time you took Don's advice!" What is he referring to, and why, in a previous ep, did he declare, "Don ruined Ted?" Ted insisted on going West, instead of Don (said he owed him, for saving the neighors' kid from the draft, and maybe other stuff)? Went to get away from Peggy, save his marriage, and now he has neither, apparently. But that was his own choice, so what is Don being blamed for?
― dow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
What is he referring to, and why, in a previous ep, did he declare, "Don ruined Ted?"
Isn't it that pitch/meeting last season where he humiliated ted about his relationship with peggy?
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
"Remember what happened the last time you took Don's advice!" What is he referring to
i assumed this was referring to the original idea to jointly pitch to chevy.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Yeah thats what I thought too
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
Ted hates his life and it's pretty much as a direct result of everything that's happened since that moment.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
Harry Hamlin has also been fantastic this season - Roger's become more serious-ish (in an interesting rather than bland way) and Cutler's been providing all these lovely grace note laughs in his place.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
had no idea Hamlin had such good, dry timing.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
his yea vote was lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Harry Crane constantly being reminded he's not a partner yet
― famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
What are the chances they take it away from him?
Hamlin has been so good this season. The line this week about "You're a football player. You're a bully and a drunk." was so cutting but also so revealing that there was something akin to deeply rooted jealousy and insecurity borne of his personality? Nature as an intellectual v. a jock? Patrician looking down on a self-made scrapper of a man? Like, he would have been willing to take a punch from Don NOW because he can look past the immediate humiliation and pain to the fact that it really would be shortest route to getting rid of him, but that he would NOT have made that decision prior to some point in his life. Kind of like he's in his prime, and sees Don as someone who is past his, for whatever reason.
So, looking at the money earned per partner - That is an insane amount of money for each person, especially the senior guys. But Joan is set, even at a 5% stake! Stoked for her. All she's ever wanted is to be truly self-reliant and not dependent on anyone else to make her way.
― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
A little late for that now. He missed his golden ticket because of indecision.
― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
i love that joan has 1.5m dollars
― caek, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
yah and it's like 11 million dollars in todays dollars
― famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
cutler seems to want to cultivate this image of being above it all (i loved his line to harry from earlier in the season--the one about his self-pity being distasteful) but he's prob the worst opportunist of the partners.
in addition to the musical number, the two other delightfully indulgent things from this episode were fucking over harry yet again and the don/meredith scene.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
meredith so obviously not anyone's source of strength
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
also so obviously not don's type
he was very kind in his dismissal of her affections, tho.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
lol 'you're right, not now'
― balls, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
whenever I see her all I can think of is Joan smashing that plane on her desk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b93d782eOMQ
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i don't remember everything everybody says otm
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
even before the musical number, i was already thinking this was one of the best episodes ever. So many unexpectedly lol moments, like Pete's delivery of: "Marriage's a racket!"
Genuinely wondered in that split second from the shot in the cockpit to Cutler making the call in his office, whether Ted had crashed the plane. Oddly disappointed to find him at the other end of the line.
Sally lighting and holding her cigarette is 100% Betty Draper.
― Roz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Loved that he was going to crash the plane into claremont, my hometown (well ok upland but still)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
My favorite part of this great episodes was Pete's "10%!"
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
"episode"
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
"What do I do now?" was another big lol
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
I like this piece from Margaret Lyons about how the show treats death:
http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/what-has-each-death-meant-on-mad-men.html
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
My favorite part of this great episodes was Pete's "10%!"― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ugh. So gauche after hearing that Joan had 5%. Awesome.
― schwantz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it was his utter glee with total disregard for minimizing Joan's lesser good fortune.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
Don hasn't flipped his lid Matt Wiener confirms!
http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/mad-men-dance-scene-robert-morse
― piscesx, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link
Weiner even goes so far as to say that he has experienced visions himself: “I’m a person who frequently sees things that aren’t there. I don’t know if they’re as elaborate as that, but I don’t question the reality of the emotion . . . a big part of that sequence is the look on Don’s face . . . I hope people can see how deep the feelings were for the character and the person.”
That is cool, as I was watching that scene I kept thinking it was weird they were showing Don's reaction. Was it really happening? Was it taking place all in his head? This show is really great at pulling this kind of thing off, walking the line between objective and subjective reality.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link
don/megan breakup was incredible :(
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link
also, for some reason, when it started with bert watching the moon landing, i was like, bert's gonna die this episode.
reminded me of his speech about the older secretary who died "she was an astronaut!"
funny that this episode is called waterloo too. not what i expected from a "waterloo."
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
there were a couple of great scenes in this episode where the dialogue did double duty--don/meg breakup being the most obvious.
― ryan, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link
so intense that scene.
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
How many times have they broken up now?
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link