MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

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i'm trying to figure out how sincere don's pitch to ted was--he seemed to rediscover some love of work this half-season and also has seemed genuine abt passing the torch to peggy.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

'How Much Money Did Each of SC&P's Partners Make Last Night?'

http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/mad-men-how-much-did-each-of-the-partners-make.html

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link

Xp which reminds me, they missed covering Stonewall this season.

i feel like it was subtext to the conversation between bob and the account guy he rescued from jail.

also, re cougars tee, i thought this too!

also this season has been excellent, and this episode was just wonderful throughout. i don't want this show to end.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link

H'mmm, from miracle $ave of all (Roger most improbably rising to the occasion and then some, but death of Bet, his father's partner and original agency's co-founder, was a huge change, demanding a huge response), to Draper's being told "The best things in life are free" by a dead man (the first dead man he's seen who is happy): that's quite a change too--and seems like a challenge, maybe. Last glimpse of D.: sitting down and thinking about it; looks like he may be caving in a little? This whole ep is its own kind of happy, happy, happy (clap along)cliffhanger.
So Cutler warns Ted, "Remember what happened the last time you took Don's advice!" What is he referring to, and why, in a previous ep, did he declare, "Don ruined Ted?" Ted insisted on going West, instead of Don (said he owed him, for saving the neighors' kid from the draft, and maybe other stuff)? Went to get away from Peggy, save his marriage, and now he has neither, apparently. But that was his own choice, so what is Don being blamed for?

dow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

What is he referring to, and why, in a previous ep, did he declare, "Don ruined Ted?"

Isn't it that pitch/meeting last season where he humiliated ted about his relationship with peggy?

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

"Remember what happened the last time you took Don's advice!" What is he referring to

i assumed this was referring to the original idea to jointly pitch to chevy.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Yeah thats what I thought too

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

Ted hates his life and it's pretty much as a direct result of everything that's happened since that moment.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

Harry Hamlin has also been fantastic this season - Roger's become more serious-ish (in an interesting rather than bland way) and Cutler's been providing all these lovely grace note laughs in his place.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

had no idea Hamlin had such good, dry timing.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

his yea vote was lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Harry Crane constantly being reminded he's not a partner yet

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

What are the chances they take it away from him?

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

Hamlin has been so good this season. The line this week about "You're a football player. You're a bully and a drunk." was so cutting but also so revealing that there was something akin to deeply rooted jealousy and insecurity borne of his personality? Nature as an intellectual v. a jock? Patrician looking down on a self-made scrapper of a man? Like, he would have been willing to take a punch from Don NOW because he can look past the immediate humiliation and pain to the fact that it really would be shortest route to getting rid of him, but that he would NOT have made that decision prior to some point in his life. Kind of like he's in his prime, and sees Don as someone who is past his, for whatever reason.

So, looking at the money earned per partner - That is an insane amount of money for each person, especially the senior guys. But Joan is set, even at a 5% stake! Stoked for her. All she's ever wanted is to be truly self-reliant and not dependent on anyone else to make her way.

Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

What are the chances they take it away from him?

A little late for that now. He missed his golden ticket because of indecision.

Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

i love that joan has 1.5m dollars

caek, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

yah and it's like 11 million dollars in todays dollars

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

cutler seems to want to cultivate this image of being above it all (i loved his line to harry from earlier in the season--the one about his self-pity being distasteful) but he's prob the worst opportunist of the partners.

in addition to the musical number, the two other delightfully indulgent things from this episode were fucking over harry yet again and the don/meredith scene.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

meredith so obviously not anyone's source of strength

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

also so obviously not don's type

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

he was very kind in his dismissal of her affections, tho.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

lol 'you're right, not now'

balls, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

whenever I see her all I can think of is Joan smashing that plane on her desk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b93d782eOMQ

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

i don't remember everything everybody says otm

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

even before the musical number, i was already thinking this was one of the best episodes ever. So many unexpectedly lol moments, like Pete's delivery of: "Marriage's a racket!"

Genuinely wondered in that split second from the shot in the cockpit to Cutler making the call in his office, whether Ted had crashed the plane. Oddly disappointed to find him at the other end of the line.

Sally lighting and holding her cigarette is 100% Betty Draper.

Roz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Loved that he was going to crash the plane into claremont, my hometown (well ok upland but still)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

My favorite part of this great episodes was Pete's "10%!"

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

"episode"

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

"What do I do now?" was another big lol

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

I like this piece from Margaret Lyons about how the show treats death:

http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/what-has-each-death-meant-on-mad-men.html

polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

My favorite part of this great episodes was Pete's "10%!"

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ugh. So gauche after hearing that Joan had 5%. Awesome.

schwantz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it was his utter glee with total disregard for minimizing Joan's lesser good fortune.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Don hasn't flipped his lid Matt Wiener confirms!

http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/mad-men-dance-scene-robert-morse

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

Weiner even goes so far as to say that he has experienced visions himself: “I’m a person who frequently sees things that aren’t there. I don’t know if they’re as elaborate as that, but I don’t question the reality of the emotion . . . a big part of that sequence is the look on Don’s face . . . I hope people can see how deep the feelings were for the character and the person.”

That is cool, as I was watching that scene I kept thinking it was weird they were showing Don's reaction. Was it really happening? Was it taking place all in his head? This show is really great at pulling this kind of thing off, walking the line between objective and subjective reality.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link

don/megan breakup was incredible :(

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link

also, for some reason, when it started with bert watching the moon landing, i was like, bert's gonna die this episode.

reminded me of his speech about the older secretary who died "she was an astronaut!"

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link

funny that this episode is called waterloo too. not what i expected from a "waterloo."

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link

there were a couple of great scenes in this episode where the dialogue did double duty--don/meg breakup being the most obvious.

ryan, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

so intense that scene.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

How many times have they broken up now?

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

It was the most intense tho, yes.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

just them both realizing at the same time... shit, this is over isn't it

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

felt the most final.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5137/71/16x9/640.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:05 (nine years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link

here's a thing.. does finding out that Don isn't Don, eventually kill you off? Anna, Bert, Dick's brother etc.. i guess Pete and Betty are the only other ones who know, that are still alive.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link

meagan knows, anna's niece knows. i have wondered if that might come into play again, anna's niece mentioned it to megan (i think that was one of the things that shook megan, that there was someone else out there w/ that level of trust from don) but the last time i can really remember it coming into play w/ the plot was when pete deliberately scuttled the deal they had w/ a defense company cuz don wouldn't pass the background check. then again when the preview for this episode said 'don receives a disturbing letter' my first thought was dick whitman.

balls, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:18 (nine years ago) link

yeah the whole Whitman thing seems to have been forgotten about since around the time the G men were after him i guess. oh Faye Miller knows some of the details too but not the 'Dick' part.

i actually forgot Meagan knows.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:31 (nine years ago) link

He told her right before (or after) he proposed iirc.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link


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